Blackwood/Vanecek/We Really Need to Move On/Goalie Thread

[jkrdevil]

I’m not surprised about Schmid going down because that is how emergency recalls works and frankly they are probably skiddish about goalies on waivers after losing Wedgewood last year.

That said I thought they would at least string out Blackwood’s recovery time a bit more and use his full conditioning stint time to get them to the new year and last this tough stretch of the schedule. And that was before this skid.

This could be gasoline on a fire.

 

[Gurglesons]

I'm confused why they are sending down Schmid? Is he only up as an emergency recall?

 

[Devils090]

I'm confused why they are sending down Schmid? Is he only up as an emergency recall?

Waiver exempt probably has something to do with it

 

[Gurglesons]

Waiver exempt probably has something to do with it

But they can afford all three right? Looks like he is Emergency.

Schmid, Akira

ELC

G

Emerg. Loan

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

But they can afford all three right? Looks like he is Emergency.

Schmid, Akira

ELC

G

Emerg. Loan

Yeah but might as well let him play in the AHL until Blackwood shows he can't be trusted. Why have three goalies around?

 

[Bleedred]

they kind of have to play blackwood at least a couple times to recoup his value. if he falters now i bet he gets waived and went down. management isn’t dumb and they want/need to make the playoffs

I don’t think he has value, other than on the waiver wire. Arizona would pick him up, barring a Connor Ingram hot streak between now and then.

But hey, someone traded a 3rd or was it a 4th? For Keith Kinkaid, to not even put him on the ice a single time during a game, but that was also the trade deadline.

But otherwise agreed. I think at this point playoffs should be the bare minimum with the start we had.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

They're putting Mac back in so everyone will backcheck and stop pinching in the zone.

Wax on, wax off.

 

[Call Me Al]

I don’t think he has value, other than on the waiver wire. Arizona would pick him up, barring a Connor Ingram hot streak between now and then.

But hey, someone traded a 3rd or was it a 4th? For Keith Kinkaid, to not even put him on the ice a single time during a game, but that was also the trade deadline.

But otherwise agreed. I think at this point playoffs should be the bare minimum with the start we had.

I don't agree. I think he has value to some teams that need goaltending, and he fits the bill of a reclamation project or someone may view him as a good value risk. there are teams that could use stability there and might see him as a potential option if he can put it together for them. even a low round pick is better than nothing

 

[Killing Joke]

Blackwood truly sucks. Bringing him up during a losing streak seems like a real idiotic move

 

[Devils090]

They're putting Mac back in so everyone will backcheck and stop pinching in the zone.

Wax on, wax off.

Jokes aside we really need to stop hemorrhaging 2 on 1s

I get it that’s just how Ruff’s system operates but there’s gotta be an adjustment

 

[Bleedred]

I don't agree. I think he has value to some teams that need goaltending, and he fits the bill of a reclamation project or someone may view him as a good value risk. there are teams that could use stability there and might see him as a potential option if he can put it together for them. even a low round pick is better than nothing

I think there'd at least a handful of teams that would sign him if he were a UFA this offseason and Arizona would definitely take him off waivers, as they're not having a great go of it with Ingram after taking him off waivers and they already took Jonas Johansson off waivers right after camp, who never wound up playing a game for him and Colorado took him back after they wound up waiving him.

Hellberg has also been passed around waivers this year and I don't even think he played more than 5 NHL games before this year and he's already 31-32 years old.

But I just don't think there's a trade market for him. It might have to be a right place, right time situation, where someone needs some help in goal right then and there.

But I do give it a better chance that someone would trade for him than him coming back and playing much better than his last 2 years.

 

[Triumph]

I don't agree. I think he has value to some teams that need goaltending, and he fits the bill of a reclamation project or someone may view him as a good value risk. there are teams that could use stability there and might see him as a potential option if he can put it together for them. even a low round pick is better than nothing

He has no value.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Blackwood would be claimed I think. Guys like Magnus Hellberg and Conor Ingram have been claimed so far this year. I don't know if that means someone would give up a pick to get him before he's waived but seems reasonable to say he has "value." I can see a team like Arizona or Buffalo or Detroit (if they are tired of Ned) giving him a shot and claiming him. No more years on his deal and he's an RFA.

 

[JrFischer54]

people have to relax on blackwood coming back. schimd was great in a limited role which is more then we could've asked for he is clearly the future backup of the team. doesn't make sense to trade blackwood since he wont return much and even as bad as he is hes just as capable as any backup you would bring in to replace him. that is unless people want to get rid of blackwood and roll vv schmid and then what happens if one of them gets hurt? blackwood is the least of the problems with this team now

 

[Devils090]

Blackwood would be claimed I think. Guys like Magnus Hellberg and Conor Ingram have been claimed so far this year. I don't know if that means someone would give up a pick to get him before he's waived but seems reasonable to say he has "value." I can see a team like Arizona or Buffalo or Detroit (if they are tired of Ned) giving him a shot and claiming him. No more years on his deal and he's an RFA.

If you’re a goalie who can post over .850 you’ll be claimed, we proved that last year. Makes no sense to dump Blackwood for nothing when if he actually strings together some good games we could get something.

 

[JrFischer54]

If you’re a goalie who can post over .850 you’ll be claimed, we proved that last year. Makes no sense to dump Blackwood for nothing when if he actually strings together some good games we could get something.

and then what? call schmid up?

 

[Devils090]

people have to relax on blackwood coming back. schimd was great in a limited role which is more then we could've asked for he is clearly the future backup of the team. doesn't make sense to trade blackwood since he wont return much and even as bad as he is hes just as capable as any backup you would bring in to replace him. that is unless people want to get rid of blackwood and roll vv schmid and then what happens if one of them gets hurt? blackwood is the least of the problems with this team now

Exactly, Schmid is definitely one of the guys going forward so him going down and hopefully killing it in Utica for a bit is fine.

and then what? call schmid up?

Depends, if Mack does well enough maybe he takes over for awhile if Vitek struggles. The irony in all of this is we’re worried we have too many goalies

 

[JrFischer54]

Exactly, Schmid is definitely one of the guys going forward so him going down and hopefully killing it in Utica for a bit is fine.



Depends, if Mack does well enough maybe he takes over for awhile if Vitek struggles. The irony in all of this is we’re worried we have too many goalies

blackwood right now is just an insurance policy + place holder for schmid. the devils aren't going to spend assets to acquire a backup who isn't really going to be any better then blackwood which would just defeat the purpose of getting rid of him in the first place esp considering schmid will be the full time back up next year.

going into the playoffs you want as many nhl experienced starters not try to get rid of them schmid has limited experience but still has some.

the devils are actually perfectly lined up to transition from blackwood to schmid right exactly when they can this summer simply walk away from blackwood.

 

[Nocashstyle]

I truly hope this is a paper move because Schmid has done everything in his power to prove he belongs on the roster, meanwhile Blackwood has done everything over the past two and a half seasons to prove he does not belong on the roster.

He’s not even a competent backup and no one can convince me otherwise.

 

[Bleedred]

people have to relax on blackwood coming back. schimd was great in a limited role which is more then we could've asked for he is clearly the future backup of the team. doesn't make sense to trade blackwood since he wont return much and even as bad as he is hes just as capable as any backup you would bring in to replace him. that is unless people want to get rid of blackwood and roll vv schmid and then what happens if one of them gets hurt? blackwood is the least of the problems with this team now

Way disagree on this.

He's the least of the problems with this team right now because he hasn't played in 1.5 months to be a problem.

He's not just as capable as any backup. Even if Schmid came back down to earth, I'm pretty confident he's no worse than Blackwood.

Blackwood is probably the second worst goalie in the league? The only one I'd put under him is Korpisalo? He's been bad for much longer and keeps getting brought back by the Jackets.

Martin Jones maybe is debatable?

That's it.

Don't even start throwing names like Gillies and call ups from the AHL out. Those guys aren't NHL regulars like Blackwood has been.

His AHL career was bad and that was years ago.

The outlier in his pro career was 18-19 and 19-20 in the NHL.

That's it, that's all he's got.

 

[Devs3cups]

Freakin’ gross.

 

[Bleedred]

I truly hope this is a paper move because Schmid has done everything in his power to prove he belongs on the roster, meanwhile Blackwood has done everything over the past two and a half seasons to prove he does not belong on the roster.

He’s not even a competent backup and no one can convince me otherwise.

If he has one good game or even more, we'll be asked to eat crow and we'll be the dummies. Even some of the people who don't like this move right now will turn the other way after that.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends our losing streak, but I expect him to do more bad than he does good.

 

[JK3]

The BDS is kinda hilarious lol.

 

[Bleedred]

Freakin’ gross.

I noticed that too when I watched his interview and I was like ''Ohh, I guess whoever said he probably didn't see the game was right. Lindy is making it sound like he didn't watch them with the ''The reports are'' comment. As I said you know Ryan is gonna ask Lindy what he thought of Blackwood's game last night, the day after the one he was blown up. Ryan did not ask him. And it appears whoever said Lindy probably didn't even watch was probably right lol.

And if you watch his answer to what they sent Akira down, he almost seems like he was annoyed to have to answer that question, without making it really obvious. He's polite about it, but he's very politely arrogant about it.

And LOL at the guy backtracking and stumbling and cutting himself off after he answered that.

Someone with better ears can try to decipher what exactly the guy said, but he says something like ''if we (inaudible) could we maybe see Akira come back up?'' and Lindy goes ''What's that?'' and he goes ''Uhhh, sorry, never mind''.



Just fast forward to 9:14 in the video.

The guy starts stumbling around 9:34

It's almost like he was trying to ask ''What if Blackwood sucks? Will we see Akira back?'' and then he thought better of it and cut himself off LOL.

 

[JrFischer54]

Way disagree on this.

He's the least of the problems with this team right now because he hasn't played in 1.5 months to be a problem.

He's not just as capable as any backup. Even if Schmid came back down to earth, I'm pretty confident he's no worse than Blackwood.

Blackwood is probably the second worst goalie in the league? The only one I'd put under him is Korpisalo? He's been bad for much longer and keeps getting brought back by the Jackets.

Martin Jones maybe is debatable?

That's it.

Don't even start throwing names like Gillies and call ups from the AHL out. Those guys aren't NHL regulars like Blackwood has been.

His AHL career was bad and that was years ago.

The outlier in his pro career was 18-19 and 19-20 in the NHL.

That's it, that's all he's got.

i'm no fan of blackwood believe me i know the guy isn't good but i still think hes a capable backup against bad teams which is what they should ask of him. what backup would the devils go out there and acquire for the next few months just to walk away from them in the summer because they have schmid to take the job? think the team could rally around blackwood and maybe tighten up in the defensive zone.