Management Bill Guerin

[AKL]

Probably in the minority but I just listened to Russo’s final Podcast with Guerin covering the season and I truly believe he’s not a bright a guy, I get dumber listening to him.

Maybe the minority, but not the only one. I said this a year or two ago.

 

[57special]

He just sounds f***ing clueless to me

I had hoped that he was playing dumb in order for other GM's to underestimate him during trade negotiations, but ya know what? Maybe he is just is what he is.

Is he just too lazy to try and make the moves necessary to keep Fiala? Would it interfere with his golf game this summer? He is treating the 25 yo forward with the 2nd most amount of points in Wild history like he's nothing special.

 

[AKL]

I had hoped that he was playing dumb in order for other GM's to underestimate him during trade negotiations, but ya know what? Maybe he is just is what he is.

Is he just too lazy to try and make the moves necessary to keep Fiala? Would it interfere with his golf game this summer? He is treating the 25 yo forward with the 2nd most amount of points in Wild history like he's nothing special.

My favorite part so far has been the fan question about whether it makes some sense to keep Fiala given our defensive prospects, and his response was something along the lines of "what do those prospects do for us now?". Which is a fair point in regards to the question asked, but Bill, what the hell does trading Fiala do for us NOW?

 

[AKL]

No I lied, I think my favorite part was when he said he can't think of any reason Fiala would believe his time here is over.

 

[Bazeek]

I didn't get more than halfway through it before the non-answers finally got to me, so my only takeaway was from 17:19.

Russo: There seems to be this believe out there, or this perception out there, or maybe not even in this market but outside this market, that welp now you're in the buyout cap hell, so there's no way this team's-... they're gonna regress or there's no way this team's gonna be as good next year. But you made it very clear at your press conference the other day, last week, that you think you'll be every bit as good next season.

Guerin: Yeah, I think so. Yep. I mean, hey look, we gotta get to work and make sure certain pieces fall into place. But I do, I think we can. I think we can be as good.

That was the only point where he sounded like he wasn't talking around the questions, and to me sounded like he had a pretty clear idea of what this offseason is going to look like. So I'm very curious as to what that actually translates into.

 

[57special]

There's a plan.

 

[NHL1674]

There's a plan.

I do love a good plan.

 

[Sad People]

I could give a rats a** how high is IQ is as long as hes good at his job and the jury is still out on that one

 

[Spurgeon]

I could give a rats a** how high is IQ is as long as hes good at his job and the jury is still out on that one

I’d prefer if our GM had some level of higher intelligence.

I think the problem with hockey management is that you get former players calling a lot of shots, which aren’t always the most well educated. Not saying they’re dumb, but you don’t need to learn a lot of other skills when you can make millions shooting a puck.

 

[DANOZ28]

im crossing my fingers and still clinging to hope he can get a deal done with fiala. i guess if we must trade fiala lets hope we can get a bunch of picks maybe a decent 1st plus a pair of 3-rds and a 23 - 2nd. then let judd work his magic finding the next fiala.

 

[Sad People]

I’d prefer if our GM had some level of higher intelligence.

I think the problem with hockey management is that you get former players calling a lot of shots, which aren’t always the most well educated. Not saying they’re dumb, but you don’t need to learn a lot of other skills when you can make millions shooting a puck.

I really dont have much else to say without repeating myself but Im sure theres been tons of high intellect GMs who have failed and vice versa

Kwesi will be a perfect example in time with that said my god I hope he succeeds and am rooting for him

 

[P10p]

I’d prefer if our GM had some level of higher intelligence.

I think the problem with hockey management is that you get former players calling a lot of shots, which aren’t always the most well educated. Not saying they’re dumb, but you don’t need to learn a lot of other skills when you can make millions shooting a puck.

Being a General Manager almost anywhere isn't really an intellectual pursuit.

Look at Chayka and Fletcher as clear examples where IQ doesn't translate to results in the NHL GM position.

 

[57special]

I could give a rats a** how high is IQ is as long as hes good at his job and the jury is still out on that one

I would rather have a smart person in ANY job, whether it be in an office, on a construction site, or restaurant, nvm running a billion dollar business like the Wild.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

So now we are on to insulting Guerin's intelligence?

 

[BagHead]

I could give a rats a** how high is IQ is as long as hes good at his job and the jury is still out on that one

I too would not mind having an idiot savant. Or any kind of savant, as long as they're a savant for GMing. There are many types of intelligence, and eloquence is only one of them.

 

[Sad People]

I would rather have a smart person in ANY job, whether it be in an office, on a construction site, or restaurant, nvm running a billion dollar business like the Wild.

Being intelligent isnt a direct correlation at being good at what you do or being successful

As long as my GM is good at evaluating talent knowing a players worth to a team (contracts being an example) among a crap ton of other things that i cant think of off the top of my head/not being aware of what all goes into being a GM im good and its also alright to not be as good in one area as you are in another look at Bill Belichick terrible at drafting but fantastic at turning around what would be considered JAG players into successful/ contributing players knowing when to cut bait with player (trading them a year early rather than a year late)

So now we are on to insulting Guerin's intelligence?

Must be the offseason lol

 

[57special]

Being intelligent isnt a direct correlation at being good at what you do or being successful

You seem to be hung up on IQ. I am not. I like working with, and being around people who are smart, but the main thing is that they do their jobs well. If Guerin does his job well, I will put up with all sorts of eccentricities.
In general, though, smart people do smart things, and not so smart people do dumb things.

 

[Sad People]

You seem to be hung up on IQ. I am not. I like working with, and being around people who are smart, but the main thing is that they do their jobs well. If Guerin does his job well, I will put up with all sorts of eccentricities.
In general, though, smart people do smart things, and not so smart people do dumb things.

Smart and Intelligence go hand in hand no?

I would rather have a smart person in ANY job, whether it be in an office, on a construction site, or restaurant, nvm running a billion dollar business like the Wild.

But it does seem like were on the same page

 

[Bazeek]

Fletcher seems like a pretty sharp guy, but in his time in Minnesota and (especially) Philadelphia he hasn't really demonstrated that he knows what a winning hockey team looks like.

Fenton seems to have keen eye for the game and individual players, but zero interpersonal skills. It also didn't sound like he was too interested in dissenting opinions.

Guerin doesn't come off as very book smart but he seems to have ideas about what a "winning team" looks like, even if a lot of that has come across as intangible, cultural stuff. Regardless, you don't need to be the sharpest knife in the drawer if you can attract a bunch of sharper knives to work for you. Remains to be seen if that's the case with the current management group, but I guess time will tell.

 

[Sad People]

Im not the most intelligent person I still struggle with basic English (than and then for example is something that has never clicked) because of underlining issues that limit me but yes Im successful enough to have been able to retire last year on my 28th birthday because Ive made enough smart decisions in my life to do so So i myself am a perfect example of not being intelligent but being successful and being able to reap the benefits

Like I said in a previous post Kwesi will be a perfect example of all of this

 

[TaLoN]

I really dont have much else to say without repeating myself but Im sure theres been tons of high intellect GMs who have failed and vice versa

Kwesi will be a perfect example in time with that said my god I hope he succeeds and am rooting for him

Not a lot of successful meathead GMs. Quite more frequent intelligent GMs with success.

The worst thing a franchise can do is hire a Matt Millan as a GM.

than and then for example is something that has never clicked

Think of it like this...

Than = vs "it'd rather this than that"
Then = next "I'll do this then that"

 

[Sad People]

Not a lot of successful meathead GMs. Quite more frequent intelligent GMs with success.

The worst thing a franchise can do is hire a Matt Millan as a GM.

I mean just by doing a simple wiki search he said himself he isnt qualified so that doesnt surprise me he failed but thats an entire different topic of being qualified or not for your job

Separate post but thought I would merge them: Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Im not going to mindlessly clown on BG because he doesnt sound like a highly intelligent or smart individual in a interview I'll judge him on his body of work and thats TBD

 

[TaLoN]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Im not going to mindlessly clown on BG because he doesnt sound like a highly intelligent or smart individual in a interview I'll judge him on his body of work and thats TBD

Agreed... but he's not trending well IMO.

 

[Sad People]

Agreed... but he's not trending well IMO.

Jury is still out for me Im at a Y in the road if you will What he gets in return for Fiala will steer me in the direction of thinking he isnt or is doing well at his job and how we look at the end of the buyouts team wise will most likely be the deciding factor

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Im not the most intelligent person I still struggle with basic English (than and then for example is something that has never clicked) because of underlining issues that limit me but yes Im successful enough to have been able to retire last year on my 28th birthday because Ive made enough smart decisions in my life to do so So i myself am a perfect example of not being intelligent but being successful and being able to reap the benefits

Like I said in a previous post Kwesi will be a perfect example of all of this

Being able to retire that early is awesome. As someone who has been getting more and more into investing/retirement (thanks Dave Ramsey), I applaud you and second your thoughts on BG.