Management Bill Guerin

How is Guerin Doing?


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DeagleJenkins

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Dvorak I think is the only one I can think of - well Eichel as well. Domi isn't even a center at this point. But guys like Bennett, Reinhart, there was zero reports that Minnesota was interested.
im not disputing that he wasnt in on those C. Domi is as much a C as Gaudette though and to my point he had shown interest in C. the point i was making is that your "zero interest" is a little far as we have been linked to trade rumors for C since he has been here. being beaten out on offers or what have you is part of the game but lets not pretend that he is just not even calling about C options. as i stated above i very much am happy the farm is not just being given up for players who may or may not even be playing C.

I agree that players like Gaudette and even Borgstrom aren't really worth getting hung up on. Nothing wrong with taking flyers on guys like that but there's usually a reason they end up being passed around the way they do. The Hawks have a couple of players that I thought were worth a look at the time they moved, but really haven't looked like much.

The broader range of centers that Guerin's only shown tepid interest in over the last two years... that's more worrying, to me. We've been left with almost all of our chips sitting on Rossi and Khusnutdinov, who are great... but it's real hard to not expect one or both of them to get Granlund'ed over to wing in the NHL.
i agree that it is somewhat troubling that there seems to be very little interest. hindsight is 20/20 though so if trocheck went to poop and we did in fact trade brodin or whomever for him guerin would be on fire on here. he seems to be taking very safe risks with the options that become available and i dont hate it as he seems to wanna build through the draft. Rossi and Khusnutdinov hopefully pan out as legit C options. Until they actually play in the NHL i wont get my hopes too high no matter how good they look.
 
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Wabit

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The bottom line hit me in the run-up to the season opener though. I sat down to try to figure out what combination of services I needed to invoke to actually watch Wild games in south-central Wisconsin this year, got about 10 minutes into it and realized that, at this point, following this team feels like homework.

I don't know how you grade it, but right now Guerin's team plays on the radio in the background while I read a book or do the dishes or whatever. I guess there's always next year.

I feel your pain on this. If I didn't already have Disney+ and a VPN I wouldn't be watching the games either.
 
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Minnewildsota

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btw zucker has 3G in 8 gms , i will always believe he was bummed & depressed he got traded away from minny thats why his production dropped. (see granlund same result)
Whoop dee do.
You can believe whatever you want. We still fleeced them in the trade
 

Wabit

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On the sliding scale of Gold to not getting beat by China (at best an AHL quality team), what would be a considered as successful Olympics for GMBG?
 

BagHead

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Exactly this. The US is one of the top hockey countries. It's competition is Canada, The Athletes Formerly Known as Russia, Finland and Sweden. They may not end up on the podium, but not ending up there would mean being in the bottom half of those countries and that would not be a success. Being in the top half would be, at least to me.
 

TaLoN

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Vanbiesbrouck Named General Manager, Quinn Head Coach of 2022 U.S. Olympic Men’s Team
NOTES: Vanbiesbrouck replaces Bill Guerin as general manager of the 2022 U.S. Olympic Men’s Ice Hockey Team. Vanbiesbrouck was part of the 2022 Olympic management team with Guerin and assistant general manager Chris Drury previously … Quinn replaces Mike Sullivan as head coach of the 2022 U.S. Olympic Men’s Ice Hockey Team. Quinn was previously an assistant coach on Sullivan’s 2022 Olympic coaching staff … The U.S. Olympic Men’s Ice Hockey Team is expected to be made up of Americans playing professionally in Europe and the U.S. (exclusive of the NHL), along with U.S. college players.
 

thestonedkoala

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I'd say it's incomplete. He has decided to go all in, in a conservative way, this season and is hoping that Minnesota with Fleury ends up more like Montreal last season.
 

Saga of the Elk

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Guys have as much value as the other GMs put on them. Talbot's contract means he had less value than Kahkonen. A b-level prospect has whatever value the scouts and opposing GM are willing to give for him, not more based on his amazing hat trick versus Kamloops last week.

Dead cap through 2026 means the window is the next few months, not longer. Guerin has a good stable of prospects who might well NHL regulars in 2026. Hopefully he can also add a blue-chip or more from the exciting upcoming drafts.

He is balancing the needs of a good NHL team today with a future that is impacted negatively by the necessity of cleaning up after Fletcher's Parise-Suter debacle. And he has basically given up nothing to do it.
 

57special

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Overall, really like the moves he made. I feel the team is better and if things go right could even make a run like MTL did last year. However, I also don't think he risked the future and put us in a hole if we don't win the cup.
Agreed.

And Dude, where ya been?
 
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TaLoN

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Fletcher's Parise-Suter debacle
Agreed with everything except that. Fletcher changed this franchise overnight with those deals. Can't help that the CBA changed the rules on him a year later. The Wild actually had a good run as a team, it just didn't work out in the end as we would've liked.
 

Minnewildsota

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I don't think this is a debacle. It pushed the Wild forward in terms of competing. It just didn't work out as well as they wanted.
I would say the debacle was the CBA changing after signing them. Nothing that Fletcher could have done himself, just a shitty thing to have happened.
 
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MuckOG

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I find it hard to argue against these latest deals. Wild are better today than they were yesterday
 
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