Management Bill Guerin

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And that's part of the problem, because Guerin/Evason kind of did just that last year with Johansson and Cole/Pateryn. And I wouldn't be surprised if Rask blocks out Rossi for the year or if they decide to go with Rau over Boldy.

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Based off of Evason talking, he doesn't see Gaudreau being a 'bottom of the roster' guy. Kulikov, Merrill and Goligoski are going to see some time as well.



And what if they don't? Both of them go back to the AHL and they simply roll with the team they have now.



Soucy is younger than Kulikov.

I’d f***ing hope so. We signed them to play hockey, not to be cheerleaders.
 
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And that's part of the problem, because Guerin/Evason kind of did just that last year with Johansson and Cole/Pateryn. And I wouldn't be surprised if Rask blocks out Rossi for the year or if they decide to go with Rau over Boldy.
None of Cole, Pateryn nor Johansson were blocking anyone last year. In fact I still think they were half-expecting Rossi to make the team out of camp.
 

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Johansson blocked Boldy, especially in the end.

Boldy spent most of the year in college, so the only time Johansson could have blocked him was "in the end", and Johansson was injured in the playoffs and they still didn't go to Boldy.

Cole blocked Addison

No he didn't, Addison wasn't good enough to make the NHL team full time, he benefitted far more from being the #1 offensive guy in Iowa.
 

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You guys are going to be so disappointed when you figure out Guerin is assembling a team of “hard working “ slappies.
 
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You guys are going to be so disappointed when you figure out Guerin is assembling a team of “hard working “ slappies.

My only major concern so far is not signing Fiala long term, that might cost us more next year but they kind of seem intent on trading him because having too many talented scoring wingers is a problem? I would rather see Kap, Fiala and hopefully Rossi and Boldy as a nice core to build around. We can rag on consistency but hard to be consistent when you have to carry a line.
 

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My only major concern so far is not signing Fiala long term, that might cost us more next year but they kind of seem intent on trading him because having too many talented scoring wingers is a problem? I would rather see Kap, Fiala and hopefully Rossi and Boldy as a nice core to build around. We can rag on consistency but hard to be consistent when you have to carry a line.
I totally agree with your sentiments on Fiala, with one caveat. What was Fiala's agent demanding long term? If it was over 8M per (Russo suggested it was a very high number), I can see why Guerin held firm. If less than 7, I find it disappointing that he didn't make it happen.
 
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Those numbers aren't that far apart, would have been happy with something in the middle but too late now we just have to see what happens this season.
 

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all that money spent on retread D men should have been spent on a good C , then give addison & menell a shot. i guess we did need a suter replacement thanks to guerin flushing him down the toilet.
 

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I totally agree with your sentiments on Fiala, with one caveat. What was Fiala's agent demanding long term? If it was over 8M per (Russo suggested it was a very high number), I can see why Guerin held firm. If less than 7, I find it disappointing that he didn't make it happen.
This more of a comment on Russo than the contract talks with Fiala, but I would be more confident that Russo wasn't just being a mouthpiece for the team if he had actually provided some figures. Saying "high" says nothing.
 

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kulikov is a beast on defense also. which is why he was signed.
A beast? What do you mean?

That he is very physical? Maybe, if his back holds out.

That he is very good defensively? No. Makes turnovers, and is slow.

You don't get a beast UFA for 2.5M
 

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Merrill was awful in MTL last year.

According to Jets fans, Benn was bad in WPG.

Seems we have loaded up on size on D, and tried to mimic what MTL did last year. Does Guerin know that Reaves went to NYR?
 

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Suter is unproven...don't know i'd call that good
Zajac and Stastny? People are screaming about 3rd pairing defensemen for being "old and slow"
I can just imagine the screaming on those two. Stastny wasn't leaving WPG IMO...and Zajac is still out there if we want...
Zajac looks kind of done. Maybe a good add for a team that needs a defensive presence in the bottom six for a year. That ain't us. We need an offensive C. Agree on Suter. Very, very short sample size.
 

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Suter is unproven...don't know i'd call that good

So is Kaprizov - what's your point?

Suter is better than Rask and Gaudreau at this point.

Also add in Wennberg and maybe Haula to the mix. It's not that they need to be top 6 centers, it's that they have to be better than uhhh *checks list*...Rask, Gaudreau...Hartman, Sturm and...whatever else we decide to throw at center.
 

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Kaprizov is way more proven at his position than Suter is at his.
And the argument that anyone at center is better is just not true ..nor should it be the barometer.
 

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Kaprizov is way more proven at his position than Suter is at his.
And the argument that anyone at center is better is just not true ..nor should it be the barometer.

Not in the NHL, Kaprizov isn't. They both have one season in the NHL.

Hartman isn't a natural center, Gaudreau is older and hasn't actually stuck in the NHL - and it should be. Sturm has as much experience as Suter and Kaprizov, much less at center. Rask is a mess and he's gone after this year.
 

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Not in the NHL, Kaprizov isn't. They both have one season in the NHL.

Hartman isn't a natural center, Gaudreau is older and hasn't actually stuck in the NHL - and it should be. Sturm has as much experience as Suter and Kaprizov, much less at center. Rask is a mess and he's gone after this year.

And Kaprizov lead his team in scoring and was named ROTY. That does make a difference.
Again.. better than X shouldn't be a barometer for bringing in a body. It should be a significant upgrade IMO. We all know the centers have to be remade... but Suter, Stastny or Zajac is just shuffling deck chairs...not improving.
 

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And Kaprizov lead his team in scoring and was named ROTY. That does make a difference.

Jeff Skinner, Tyler Myers, Steve Mason, Andrew Raycroft have all won the Calder. Even Barzal hasn't replicated his rookie season.

Again.. better than X shouldn't be a barometer for bringing in a body. It should be a significant upgrade IMO. We all know the centers have to be remade... but Suter, Stastny or Zajac is just shuffling deck chairs...not improving.

Wennberg and Suter would be better and bridge the gap between them and Rossi. It shouldn't be a significant upgrade, because then you are always searching. Look at Dubnyk and Talbot. Talbot was not a significant upgrade to Dubnyk. He was an upgrade though.
 

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God... if Kaprizov is so unproven and his stats and Calder don't matter...wonder why he's so hard to sign?
Course you also think Guerin should he feeling pressure to sign him... but none on Kaprizov...
I mean the unproven player should feel grateful to sign an NHL deal.

Wennberg and Suter might be better. Again...deck chair shuffling is not a barometer for me.
 
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thestonedkoala

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God... if Kaprizov is so unproven and his stats and Calder don't matter...wonder why he's so hard to sign?

Ask Gaborik - he was also difficult to sign and he didn't even win the Calder. Then again, he did lead the team to the 3rd round of the playoffs.

Wennberg and Suter might be better. Again...deck chair shuffling is not a barometer for me.

It's not shuffling the deck chair. It's adding possible talent. Shuffling the deck chair is adding Gaudreau.
 

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