Biggest pet peeves in hockey?

[thegazelle]

There are actually MORE ties now than ever before. Teams used to average about 10 ties per season; today the average is about 13-14 tie games. Last season, a few teams played to a tie for an astounding 26 games.

Of course the OT/SO tacks on a 'win' after the real hockey game's done, but the price for that gimmick is many more 60 minute games where teams play more cautiously, knowing they can steal an extra point in 3-on-3 or shootout. Previously, the only way to get 2-points was to win the actual game. Thanks to OT/SO, teams are turtling more during the game, in the hope of grabbing the extra point afterwards in a skills competition.

Interesting...thanks for pointing that out. It's funny, I never thought of it that way - it truly still a tie game.

You know, I used to ponder what ways to resolve this dilemma with trying to get rid of the traditional tied game = 1 point each. Lots of people have posited ideas over the years and I am sure there are handsomely paid people at the NHL who have been churning the idea in their heads.

I always though the way to get rid of the tie is to just reward points to the winner. No loser points. But then to determine the winner, how long is the league willing to subject the players in the regular season insofar as extra time - and would the fans bore quickly. Do we want to see 4 overtimes in the regular season?

I thought of one option as perhaps incentive for not ending in a tie game. If the game remains tied in regulation and in a five minute sudden death overtime...NO ONE gets any points - and you move on to the next game. I am uncertain whether the NHL brain trust will ever try something like that. But even then, some teams may be happy then to keep the tie so that their opponent doesn't move up either in any particular matchup scenario

 

[Lt Dan]

Fans.


Yep....so after seeing it both ways, now the answer:

Just do away with loser point, and shootout altogether and make games an all or nothing thing and have 3-on-3 OT until there is a winner.

In most instances you would likely have a winner before the time it takes to do the shootout anyway, it would solve the issue with 3 point games and it removes ANY incentive for a team to just even hang on in the final minutes for OT (which many do anyway, and makes for more awful hockey....) so it would even reduce the number of games that even go to OT.

Good idea!
I'd be willing to give this one a try and see what happens

 

[Golden_Jet]

Loser points

 

[Dr Pepper]

And my kids know this one...Harnarayan Singh, upon a goalie making a glove save, saying "flashing the leather..." - it's inevitable every game with him on play by play.

I see your catchphrase and I'll raise you another - "cleared but not out".

Not exclusive to any particular broadcaster, though I'm sure some use it far more than others......but it's never made sense.

 

[ON3M4N]

Deciding the winner of a game via the shootout. 3 on 3 overtime is a very close 2nd.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I came to post something similar. Games should be worth the same amount no matter what.

Yes. That is a little different though. All games should have the same total value. 3 pts makes sense.

Edit: Yes, I know this post is a year and a half old. Just discovered this thread.
Some real gems here.

 

[FMichael]

2 right off the top of my head...

1) The GM hiring a coach that eerily resembles the previous coach (not in the way of actual physical appearance, but more as to their coaching style and failure).

2) Players across the league celebrating goals by facing the crowd with the open arms and fingers twirling motion...

 

[thegazelle]

Fans.


Yep....so after seeing it both ways, now the answer:

Just do away with loser point, and shootout altogether and make games an all or nothing thing and have 3-on-3 OT until there is a winner.

In most instances you would likely have a winner before the time it takes to do the shootout anyway, it would solve the issue with 3 point games and it removes ANY incentive for a team to just even hang on in the final minutes for OT (which many do anyway, and makes for more awful hockey....) so it would even reduce the number of games that even go to OT.

I like this one! It is true - I can't see a 3-on-3 lasting more than 10 minutes in most cases.

 

[JPT]

Inferiority complexes among fans

 

[thegazelle]

I see your catchphrase and I'll raise you another - "cleared but not out".

Not exclusive to any particular broadcaster, though I'm sure some use it far more than others......but it's never made sense.

You know, that is interesting...and you are absolutely right - it's funny how this one we seem to hear a lot and accept at face value - like "new and improved".

 

[Dr Pepper]

2 right off the top of my head...

1) The GM hiring a coach that eerily resembles the previous coach (not in the way of actual physical appearance, but more as to their coaching style and failure).

2) Players across the league celebrating goals by facing the crowd with the open arms and fingers twirling motion...
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Well, there's a time and a place for it.........Byfuglien's taunt during the playoffs is legendary (skip to about 2:25)





Also quite fond of this old clip, Antoine Roussel scoring on a penalty shot, in Chicago, and letting the locals have it:



I don't know what's better, the actual goal or the salty reaction from the booth.

 

[Rebels57]

When a national media member refers to a prospect at the draft as a "Flyers Type Prospect" because they are "big" and or "tough." It's not the 70's anymore. Please let the Bullies stereotype die.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

The word pedigree to describe a player becuase a said player was a 1st round pick


I hate the FRANKING term so much.

What would you use instead?

 

[Sheppy]

Fans who constantly use "classless" and say "rent free!"

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Refs rewarding divers, league started to crack down on it years ago but has since got lazy and their weak punishments aren’t a deterrent. Should make a weekly name and shame flopping video that is given to the officials and gets played in all the arenas, sports highlight shows and start handing out suspensions to repeat offenders that are an embarrassment to the league. Have stricter in-game penalties, 2 minutes for embellishment to sell an infraction but don’t give the other player 2 minutes also as it’s not a deterrent. Double minor or 5 minute majors for blatant flops where there’s been no infraction.

 

[Minnesota Knudsens]

There are actually MORE ties now than ever before. Teams used to average about 10 ties per season; today the average is about 13-14 tie games. Last season, a few teams played to a tie for an astounding 26 games.

Of course the OT/SO tacks on a 'win' after the real hockey game's done, but the price for that gimmick is many more 60 minute games where teams play more cautiously, knowing they can steal an extra point in 3-on-3 or shootout. Previously, the only way to get 2-points was to win the actual game. Thanks to OT/SO, teams are turtling more during the game, in the hope of grabbing the extra point afterwards in a skills competition.

Maybe the solution then is just to get rid of OT in the regular season altogether. Call the game a tie and go home. The majority of diehard NHL fans seem to hate the gimmicky stuff. Would be curious to know what it does, if anything, for the casual fan or fans in non-traditional hockey markets. Hard to quantify maybe?

 

[Warden of the North]

PP with less then the full duration of it remaining in the period.

For arguments sake if a penalty is called at 19:00 into a period the period should extend until the PP is over, with the extra time being removed from the next period.

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

Fans that think rebuilding is sucking for 5 years then all of a sudden you’re a top contender. Also when fans think players are “complimentary” instead of “complementary”. Probably mentioned before but Auston Matthews never resigned. In fact he re-signed with Toronto

 

[Warden of the North]

"Re-upped" might be the stupidest term in professional sports

 

[Primary Assist]

When my team lets in an early goal in the 1st, and then gets shut out to lose 1-0. Drives me nuts when I play as a goalie, drives me even more nuts when it happens in the pros

 

[CuuuJooo]

Matthew Tkachuk and his mouthguard as afterthought. Either wear it or don't, dude. I don't need to see it.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Fans who constantly use "classless" and say "rent free!"

Any argument/assertion that can be used to defend anything - no limits - is inherently weak.

"Rent free" certainly qualifies.

 

[hangman005]

The refs spending 4 hours after a goal is scored for the coach to decide if they want to challenge it. Drop the puck without delay, if the coach wants more time they can burn their timeout. If the team drag their feet getting set, 2 minutes, delay of game.

Well my peeve hasn't changed though I may need to add Cassidy's god damn turtle.

 

[BHD]

Even up calls

 

[miscs75]

Having the shoot out decide games. Get rid of it and leave that for the ASG/penalty shots. Expand OT to 10 minutes and call it a tie if it’s still even at the end.