Oh I agree every market has those games you're referring to, but I'd expect that more from a Columbus or Buffalo game.
| Date | Detailed Forecast |
|---|---|
| Today | Snow and blowing snow ending this afternoon then a mix of sun and cloud. Wind north 50 km/h gusting to 70 diminishing to 30 this afternoon. Temperature falling to minus 20 this afternoon. Wind chill minus 34 this morning and minus 29 this afternoon. Risk of frostbite. UV index 1 or low. |
| Tonight | A few clouds. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 27. Wind chill minus 29 this evening and minus 36 overnight. Risk of frostbite. |
It's really not as bad as the forecast makes it out to be. Sunday night/Monday morning was absolutely a shitshow with falling snow. But as of my drive to work this morning all the main streets you'd expect to be are all plowed, it's just cold as shit which is typical for Winnipeg in February.
In my opinion, I do think Peg, among other Canadian and Northern US areas are strong on fan-interest as well as history. I just think that hockey "traditionalists" (not implying the poster you're replying to is one) have a problem with two major factors.
I'll also add that many of the loud anti-southern people struggle understanding that NHL franchises are not rewards given to markets for being sufficiently "hockey mad".
I think you're pretty on point, and it's similar to the argument I use with major league and minor league cities. The only true Canadian major league city as of now is Toronto because they have an NBA and MLB team. Vancouver and Montreal are close enough that I'll include them in the group as well. But that's still 4 cities (Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ottawa) that have no buisness having any big 4 team outside of hockey. They neither have the population for it nor are all that desirable for these young millionaire players to live. That means the NHL would need 36 teams just to have a similar big market share as the NFL, and 34 to match MLB & NBA.
You're doing the exact same bullshit as the relocationistas do and it's just as obnoxious.
While I do agree with the overall premise about revenue sharing, that isn't why Winnipeg is struggling for revenue. It's because the city/team/owners are depending on a much smaller pool of rabid fans and corporate money year-in and year-out. When economy, crappy play, bad marketing, or whatever happens, its effects are multiplied.
It’s not really the same though. In a world I’m still back in my early 20’s. And the WBS Pens are also playing in Pittsburgh. Getting to go to a cheap ticket AHL game isn’t going to make me want to buy a full priced NHL ticket. I’d just keep buying the AHL tickets or most likely go do something else. Probably would have ended up going to U-Pitt sport events or the Pirates field instead. You have to get the young fans that are priced out in the door and get them cemented into the fan base. Then as they age their disposable income grows and you can shrink down that rush program. But I don’t feel trying to use the minor team to shepherd the young fans toward buying full priced NHL tickets they are already priced out of does anything to move the dial building up a youth fan base.
I have to agree with this. You most definitely need the younger crowds to grow into the older, paying crowds.
I disagree with all of that. Respectfully disagree.
It is a double edge sword. For awhile. But that’s exactly what Pittsburgh did to build their current fan base. Undercut now to have large reward later. And no, in my 20’s if it was go see AHL hockey because I can’t afford the NHL seats. I’m just going to go to one of the other pro sports in town that I can afford. The Pirates are a joke organization but you can get on that field cheap every game. If the choice would have been AHL Pens VS Pirates back then I would have most likely chosen the Pirates. Or gone to U-Pitt basketball and paid a similar or cheaper price of a cheap Pirates game and just be around people my age.
