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Best player in the world: 2011

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Best player in the world: 2011

  • D. Sedin

    Votes: 19 6.8%

  • St. Louis

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Perry

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • H. Sedin

    Votes: 11 3.9%

  • Stamkos

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Iginla

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Ovechkin

    Votes: 7 2.5%

  • Crosby

    Votes: 162 57.9%

  • Malkin

    Votes: 6 2.1%

  • Kesler

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Lidstrom

    Votes: 6 2.1%

  • Weber

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Chara

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Rinne

    Votes: 2 0.7%

  • Thomas

    Votes: 62 22.1%

  • Luongo

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    280
  • Poll closed .
norrisnick said:
Too cute?

You are able to play or you are unable to play. It's that simple.

You might rely on a "trust me, bro" to pick the best player. I'll go by what happened on the ice.
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I mean all player evaluations are based on some sense of “trust me bro” projection. A season doesn’t happen in a singularity. Whether we’re judging in the middle or the season or at the end, all the evidence is based on games that have already happened. We need to make a choice based on reasonable projection of the data
 
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Crosby. 2010-2014 was his absolute peak as a player, and I haven't seen anyone in the post-05 era other than McDavid dominate the league like Sid did when he was healthy in any of those 3 seasons, especially 2010-11 and the lockout season in 2013. Ovi comes close, to be fair.
 
wetcoast said:
It simply doesn't matter in this poll, it belongs in the Hart trophy voting for the 10-11 season poll.
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Of course it matters. "who you think was the best in his abilities" The two key phrases there being "you think" and "his abilities". Unlike Sid, there were quite a few players that were able to get on the ice for the entire season. I think that ability and/or inability matters. Factor in the whole season or pick say Perry or Selanne who both had 3+2 games that Sid never matched that season.
 
Crosby

He was doing insane things until the injury

I still believe that injuries and the 13 lockdown robbed us of his peak
 
Mrb1p said:
Just do 11 to 15 and save everyone time. Its Crosby every year.

Carey Price outplayed Tim Thomas in a 7 game series in 2011. I have a hard time not laughing in the face of these Thomas posts.
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Price did have slightly better stats in that series (0.934 sv% to 0.926 sv%), but still lost. Thomas did go on to win the Smythe, Vezina, 1st AST, and 5th in Hart voting. In his remaining playoff games that season Thomas had a 0.945 sv% with 4 SO. So its interesting to pick out his 2nd worst series as some indictment. He also spotted a 0.967 sv% in the finals, allowing just 8 GA in 7 games.

Thomas in 2011 was the best goalie season of the cap era IMO, better than Prices 2015 year.
 
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norrisnick said:
Of course it matters. "who you think was the best in his abilities" The two key phrases there being "you think" and "his abilities". Unlike Sid, there were quite a few players that were able to get on the ice for the entire season. I think that ability and/or inability matters. Factor in the whole season or pick say Perry or Selanne who both had 3+2 games that Sid never matched that season.
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You keep doing you.

For me this question is pretty simple it's which player would I want at that time for a throw everyone in the pool ie who is the best player.

So you do you and take Perry or Selanne or the dozens of other players who played more games it simply doesn't matter to what the OP is asking.
 
Steven Toast said:
Price did have slightly better stats in that series (0.934 sv% to 0.926 sv%), but still lost. Thomas did go on to win the Smythe, Vezina, 1st AST, and 5th in Hart voting. In his remaining playoff games that season Thomas had a 0.945 sv% with 4 SO. So its interesting to pick out his 2nd worst series as some indictment. He also spotted a 0.967 sv% in the finals, allowing just 8 GA in 7 games.

Thomas in 2011 was the best goalie season of the cap era IMO, better than Prices 2015 year.
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If by goalie season you mean goalie as better defensive team overall sure.

Overall no, Price is only beat out by Hasek. The support these two have lacked is incomparable to the all time worthy team Thomas had.

Also it was clear as day Price was the better goaltender anytime they went head to head that year. It wasnt Thomas.

Goaltending statistics are not an indicator of talent, at least not a good one.
 
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wetcoast said:
You keep doing you.

For me this question is pretty simple it's which player would I want at that time for a throw everyone in the pool ie who is the best player.

So you do you and take Perry or Selanne or the dozens of other players who played more games it simply doesn't matter to what the OP is asking.
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That's my plan, yes.

After January 6th 2011? I'd take anybody able to suit up and not be a net negative player over Crosby.

The OP is asking "who you think was the best in his abilities" for the 2010-2011 season. I'll take a guy that had the ability to play at the bare minimum.
 
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As this is a "best player" poll, I'm going Crosby. If it was a "most valuable" player poll, I might vote for someone else due to his fewer games played, even if he still scored at a great rate during that time.
 
norrisnick said:
That's my plan, yes.

After January 6th 2011? I'd take anybody able to suit up and not be a net negative player over Crosby.

The OP is asking "who you think was the best in his abilities" for the 2010-2011 season. I'll take a guy that had the ability to play at the bare minimum.
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Provide the quote where the OP said that?

Thread title is simple "best player 2011"
 
How is Crosby winning, playing only a half season, sure a good half season, but being available means more.
Lots of better options.
 
Crosby was on pace for 120-130 points and nobody else was even close.

Dude who had him in fantasy was lapping the field in our league.

But since he didn’t play, I gotta go with the closest thing to Hasek the cap era has seen, and the man who stopped Vancouver from getting a title.

Timmy T.
 
M88K said:
This is Thomas imo. only player that maintained that level over a whole season.

Everyone is making a big deal out of 41 games, but doubtful that level of play would have carried over 82 games. hell In 41games in 10-11
Stamkos had 1 less goal and 9 less assists than Crosby and was sporting a 1.37ppg but by the end of the year he had dropped all the way down to 1.11.
In fact there were 5 players over 1.20 ppg at the half season mark by the end only 3 of those players stayed over 1.2 ppg, (1 of them didn't play another game), and all but that same 1 had dropped some from their 41game pace.
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1.61 to 1.37 ppg is a massive difference lol. And Crosby continued it for his next 2 seasons
 
norrisnick said:
That's my plan, yes.

After January 6th 2011? I'd take anybody able to suit up and not be a net negative player over Crosby.

The OP is asking "who you think was the best in his abilities" for the 2010-2011 season. I'll take a guy that had the ability to play at the bare minimum.
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Your second sentence makes no sense in that anybody would be considered a better player after Jan 6 with the only criteria is suiting up for a game.

Stop and think about what you are saying it doesn't make any sense.

The NFL had replacement players so all of those players were better than all the NFL players at the time?

It would be one thing if a player might never reasonably come back and didn't show his elite okay for 41 games but that doesn't apply here.

Heck I guess the only players here you should consider are players that played in all 82 games right?
 
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wetcoast said:
Your second sentence makes no sense in that anybody would be considered a better player after Jan 6 with the only criteria is suiting up for a game.

Stop and think about what you are saying it doesn't make any sense.

The NFL had replacement players so all of those players were better than all the NFL players at the time?

It would be one thing if a player might never reasonably come back and didn't show his elite okay for 41 games but that doesn't apply here.

Heck I guess the only players here you should consider are players that played in all 82 games right?
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You can play games and actively hurt your team's chances in winning. See Chiarot, Ben. So that sentence makes perfect sense.

If you do enough in less than 82 games to out perform someone that did play 82 games, that's fine. 41 games ain't it though.
 
norrisnick said:
If you found the OP I'm sure you can find the quote.
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You quoted the OP and the words quoted don't exist in this thread the onus is on you brother.

Golden_Jet said:
How is Crosby winning, playing only a half season, sure a good half season, but being available means more.
Lots of better options.
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I know right, it's almost like some people are actually reading what the OP is asking and not making up criteria.
 
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norrisnick said:
You can play games and actively hurt your team's chances in winning. See Chiarot, Ben. So that sentence makes perfect sense.

If you do enough in less than 82 games to out perform someone that did play 82 games, that's fine. 41 games ain't it though.
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Since you are obviously doing some mental gymnastics to what the thread is about we are going to agree to disagree this thread and several more no doubt.

I do wonder if 36 games in a 48 game season is enough....we will see I guess but this poll has a clear winner.
 
wetcoast said:
You quoted the OP and the words quoted don't exist in this thread the onus is on you brother.
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Who said anything about those words existing in this thread, bud?

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