Enough with the lying, the "European" nations accounted for 24 % of total points in 2021-22 and 7 % of total points in 2023-24.
Yet they(together with NA players that left) were almost 50% of the top players in russian KHL teams.
You ignore real data and make stuff up to fit your narrative. You just make up numbers and when presented with real data just shout that your made up data is more real than the real data. Your whole schtick throughout this board is that every Russian player is terrible, so sure I guess in your mind every European player is better than every Russian player automatically. Every post in this thread is a lie, but I suppose it's par for the course for someone that says 21 year old top defensemen are the exact same as 27 year old defenseman from 15 years ago when expressing "valid concern", your anti-Russian schtick is tired at this point.
Prove it. That they were replaced by equal talent. Also, try to actually build a case for KHL>SHL or NL. How does it work with all the happenings in last 1,5 years? How does it work that a league with 20 russian teams that have 3 man import limit, that can not sign euros, and has a limited access to NA market is better than 14 team league with no such restrictions?You told untruths because your core argument is faulty and are now moving goalposts.
Many of the top scorers are gone, but as the top 100 scoring example YOU provided illustrates, they’ve been replaced by relatively equal talent. Talent is only down around 20%.
Enough with the lying, Garl; or as you call it “I was slightly incorrect”
It is a personal attack, you present no argument. I have said why your data is meaningless, you did not try to refute my argument, instead went for a personal attack.
No you haven't, I presented data, you just said "IT'S MEANINGLESS" and then tried to imply all the best players were non-Russian, of which I refuted you some more. You lie, then you double down, then you circle back to your original lie when you are called out and raise your arms and say "nobody has refuted my points!" It's exhausting.
I already have numerous times, cut it out. I am the one presenting data, which goes ignored by the people that don't like what it says.
I said why it is meaningless and will repeat it again, KHL is not NHL, imports were brought to lift the quality not as regular players.
I was at the job with no access to eliteprospects at that time and gave figure out of my memory. Yes, 60 instead of 70.
I watched Salavat actually. Like come on, Chemelevski is a good player and in last season Hartikainen was either uninspired or was saving the best for playoffs, but Chemelevski is not on prime Harti, or Granlund level. I would even put Manninen ahead of him for now.
You can't bring in teams from other countries together with Swedish teams. It's literally impossible because there's a 51% rule in Swedish sports. Every club MUST be 51% owned by the fans/members, meaning the members always have the majority vote. You can't let a team from Copenhagen, for example, be owned by some rich guy who alone can buy wins.
The issue is there is no such thing as "prime Harti" in this context, the league level every season consists of every player's actual performance, not the prime level of how good they were at some point, so I'm now talking about that Chmelevski v2023 was looking better than Harti v2022 and therefore in this particular case the replacement was more than effective.
I know that you like to make conclusions after a dozen of games, but it is just dumb, as the same Chmelevski was looking rather meh the first like 20 games in, but somehow you're refusing to look into full last season like it wouldn't exist even though it is a much fuller data set. Not to mention that Kovar is a rather funny example, as as soon as his chemistry with Mozyakin and Zaripov stopped he was looking fine, but not like anything special.
I'm not arguing about the inefficient use of money, but money is still money and if SHL pays like 4 times less (considering taxes) it kind of is an important factor for foreign players.
Barber is also a former Team USA captain at the World Juniors where he outscored Jack Eichel, but more important is that he was able to produce at around ppg pace for like 5 last AHL seasons, so not really too surprising that he is finding success in the KHL too.
Barber was a good JR and a great AHL player. I think outscoring a 2 year younger than (1994 vs 1996 birth years) him Eichel (5 pts in 5 games vs 6pts in 5 games) may be his claim to fame outside of leading the KHL in scoring. He got 1 point for the US at a Skoda's recently. Eichel won a Cup last year. 1st rounder vs 6th rounder. They are not on the same planet and time has shown that.
Yeah, just I meant that at the time of the 2014 WJC him being the 6th round pick was considered a steal back then. But anyway, a perfect example of the "excellent in the AHL, not good enough for the NHL" type of players and that exactly the type KHL teams are actively searching for nowadays.
We will see... I'd say he is the 10th best Czech dman in Europe and we don't have very good dman in Europe (or the NHL).lol
Interesting, I had thought of him as of 6th/7th with Kempny, Klok, Knot, Sulak and Jerabek ahead of him and Kostalek more or less on par, who am I missing?
He's on par with a bunch of guys like Jordan, kundratek, moravcik, musil and Scotka. None of them would I say are awesome.lol.
