The word in Montreal was that the offer was made with the intent of drafting Reinbacher.
I have always assumed Saros would sign a long-term extension this summer. But I still don't see how that automatically blocks Askarov. We just lived through a very similar scenario in fact with Saros and Rinne. If the young gun is doing well, you get a sense of it for sure, and you can't just keep running the old man out there as much, gradually a changing of the guard occurs. IF Askarov is ever that good. But it literally just happened like that for us, and it didn't cause any problems at all, so I don't see why we'd imagine a problem down the road. It actually sounds GOOD to me if there is a nice succession in place for our future in goal?
I haven't seen a single source relaying Trotz's comments at the draft that gave any indication he was shopping for anything except one of the young centers.
I think they could hold both goalies and I am not discounting it as a possibility. I am more questioning the thought process. If you like Saros enough to sign him long term then why not attempt to use Askarov to obtain a different asset that would contribute more than 25 games a year for the next half decade?I have always assumed Saros would sign a long-term extension this summer. But I still don't see how that automatically blocks Askarov. We just lived through a very similar scenario in fact with Saros and Rinne. If the young gun is doing well, you get a sense of it for sure, and you can't just keep running the old man out there as much, gradually a changing of the guard occurs. IF Askarov is ever that good. But it literally just happened like that for us, and it didn't cause any problems at all, so I don't see why we'd imagine a problem down the road. It actually sounds GOOD to me if there is a nice succession in place for our future in goal?
Yeah, there is zero doubt Trotz was hoping for one of the centers to be available. Montreal at #5 was only going to be a trading partner if somebody else took Michkov earlier and then Montreal was left with Smith. But that all dried up very quickly on draft day, once it became clear that Michkov was dropping. There was not going to be any consideration whatsoever of Reinbacher from the Preds' side. Some of us fans argued for using the pick on Michkov anyway. But I do believe Trotz only had eyes for the 4 centers, and really, he was aiming more for picks above #5, so Montreal wasn't even the team he was primarily interested in talking to.
It’s tough because before teams like to give up ANY assets for a goaltender, they want to see some consistent success in the NHL. In this situation, he’s likely going to have to back-up Saros for 1-2 years, and show what he can do (in the NHL) “consistently”, before anyone gives up any prime assets for him.
He's one of the best goalie prospects in the league and he's putting up crazy numbers in Milwaukee.I haven't seen them either, but both could be true. We know he wanted a 1C that in retrospect was completely far fetched. It's also possible he saw Reinbacher as a top pair guy and decided it was worth a try to get high enough to draft him.
Because you need 2 goalies on a hockey team and will still need a successor to Saros? I think that's worth more than the Holtz-level prospects you are going to get offered, that's all. And if some loon fan pipes up offering more, well, that's one loon... it's not what NHL GMs will offer.
It isn't hard to find a backup goalie to start 20 games. Lanky is the perfect example. I just don't understand sacrificing a trade potential that could benefit this terrible team now, so that we feel good about having a succession plan that could never happen.Because you need 2 goalies on a hockey team and will still need a successor to Saros? I think that's worth more than the Holtz-level prospects you are going to get offered, that's all. And if some loon fan pipes up offering more, well, that's one loon... it's not what NHL GMs will offer.
This is a mediocre source, but they claim Nashville was going to draft Reinbacher.
hockey30.com
Everyone else has said that they were looking to get a top pick to draft a center or Michkov. I would doubt any rumor having us move up to draft a defenseman, even Reinbacher.This is a mediocre source, but they claim Nashville was going to draft Reinbacher.
Pierre LeBrun parle de Yaroslav Askarov à Montréal
Pierre LeBrun confirme que Yaroslav Askarov est passé à un cheveu de devenir un membre du Canadien de Montréal...
We don't have a 1D projection in the pipeline. Why would it be out to lunch for us to draft one?
Because we've spent 25 years drafting and developing defensemen without a top 5 pick and we haven't had a young top center that entire time. Molendyk is a perfect example, why draft Reinbacher at 5 when we drafted him 24th.
Well we didn't have Molendyk when we tried to move up, but why draft Askarov in the 1st if we've had competent goaltending most of our existence? I don't think you can use past history of success as a template especially with a new GM.
I don't see any need for the Preds to trade Askarov. He's a fun player, but still has some holes in his game to work on. There's definitely no rush for the Preds to do that, especially at this juncture when the team doesn't have its AHL-level goaltending secured atm.
The NHL can move fairly quickly on Expansion if they want to, however. So while we don't have anything tangible announced yet, it would not shock me if there was Expansion within 3 years. That's $$$ in owners' pockets. So it's going to happen. Just a question of when. If Askarov is an NHL goalie by that time, then maybe the Preds will have a reason to consider trading him closer to the next Expansion Draft.
Same argument for why you try to move up for Reinbacher. I have to think Trotz understands the benefit of having an elite 1D
Montreal would be equally stupid to offer it. Goalies are voodoo and not worth a young potential top pairing D
Mercer is an overpayment given he is a proven top 6 forward in NHL while Askarov is still unknown whether he can cut it in NHL.
I said this on our Nash board, but I'll repeat it, there is a chasm between what Preds fans want back for Askarov and what they realistically should be happy with in a return. The argument has basically turned into "well if we can't get a potential 1C then why even bother". Maybe Barry agrees, but I don't agree with that asset management when we have so many other holes on this team.
