Value of: Ben Chiarot can bring a 1st pick?

[Flyer lurker]

It takes one gm to over pay. So I would put it at 40% chance.

But if you need a physical d man Ben, Risto and maybe Manson will be out there. Buyers market for physical d-man.

 

[stl76]

Coming off the playoffs last year I would have said yes, but he has not been playing well recently. I think it's fair to wonder if his recent play has hurt his value a bit, but who knows? Teams get desperate at the TDL...

 

[Soundgarden]

I can see Poile offering a 1st after seeing how we looked without Fabbro and Ekholm.

 

[SakuKoivu11]

If Savard can get a first and fourth then Chariot should get a first and 2nd

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

If Savard can get a first and fourth then Chariot should get a first and 2nd

Supply and demand varies too much year to year to compare players straight across like that. Savard was the only defenseman to be dealt for a pick higher than a 3rd last year. It’s a much deeper pool in 2022.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

The media is hyping it up so they make it so Montreal gets what they desire for Chiarot.

Wish backroom deals were illegal.

 

[glenbuis]

Supply and demand varies too much year to year to compare players straight across like that. Savard was the only defenseman to be dealt for a pick higher than a 3rd last year. It’s a much deeper pool in 2022.

unfortunately this is very true .

 

[Maitz]

It’s hilarious our people here solely evaluate Chiariot’s value based on playing on the worst team in the league, and forgetting about his performance in the playoffs last year.

He certainly has flaws, but for a team looking for a rock solid defence first player who can play 20-25 minutes a night and anchor a PK, there’s not many better options available at the trade deadline.

Exactly, teams are not paying a first for Chiarot play during the season, they will pay a first because in playoffs he is a beast, can play 20 min clear the crease and give huge bodycheck while being reliable defensively. The team that will got him at the deadline will love having him in their lineup for their playoff run. I wish we could sign him to a 3x3.5 deal again but in our situation a 1st is the best

 

[ManofSteel55]

If Savard can get a first and fourth then Chariot should get a first and 2nd

I'd both guys were available in the sMe yesr maybe. Savard was far and away the best defenseman available last year. Only top 4 option really. There are plenty of defenseman to drive the price down.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I think he will but I wouldn't do it.

 

[jaric1862]

He will return a first. Teams get desperate around the deadline. Whoever loses out on Chychrun, will likely be interested.

 

[jackjohnson]

He will.

Chairot gets a 1st while people whine about Miller getting a 1st and a decent prospect

 

[jackjohnson]

Teams get stupid at the deadline, and injuries could make them desperate. I could see a late 1st being possible.

Teams get stupid, so it means Miller has to demand more than a 1st plus a good proapect if Chairot is getting a 1st because Miller is 10X the player Chairot is.

 

[jaric1862]

Chiarot can play RD too, can he not?

 

[HabsAddict]

Amazing how horrible Chiarot is. Why even bother to comment?

 

[biturbo19]

Probably not. But you never know. Deadline day can get expensive, and especially for "that type" of rugged, physical "playoff warrior" sort of player. They are awfully handy to have. As a bottom-pair defenceman, who can step up and play a simple, physical game in a complementary Top-4 role as injuries inevitably pile up over the course of a playoff run.

 

[John Mandalorian]

If Savard can get a first and fourth then Chariot should get a first and 2nd

Is that really a relevant basis for comparison? How many teams will be in the market that also have firsts? Also consider, that any of Giroux, Hertl, Pavelski, Chychrun, Miller, and Crouse might be available and getting firsts. Plus someone mentioned other D options such as Manson.

Also, if Tampa is the only franchise willing to pay that for players like this, does that mean other franchises are as well?

 

[Rob Sense]

Whichever team moves a 1st for him would regret it

not if they win the SC

 

[hardcorehabs]

The media is hyping it up so they make it so Montreal gets what they desire for Chiarot.

Wish backroom deals were illegal.

Right, the media has a gun to the heads of NHL GMs'.......

I'll believe it when I see it if Chairot brings a 1st. Likely 2nd + 3rd IMO unless he has a real solid next 2 months.

 

[John Mandalorian]

not if they win the SC

Maybe have it be conditional then? If the acquiring team wins the cup, it’s a first. If not, it’s a 3rd round pick?

 

[Hobnobs]

Too many rentals out there but I wouldnt be surprised if someone gets desperate and maybe gives habs a conditional 1st

 

[samsagat]

J Brisebois started a trend of paying (low) 1st Rd picks to get tailor made players for playoffs.
His goal was to complement an already talented team with grit and character that was lacking.

He has two rings doing so.

NHL is a copycat league.
Toronto did the same last year paying a 1st for Foligno.

Chiarot is a playoff defenseman, he proved it in the last two Habs playoff appearances.

 

[DC Comics]

Not all 1st pick are equals. Chariot worth a bottom 1st round pick from one of the top team in the league (ex: Florida) but not worth a 1st from a bubble playoff team (ex: Edmonton). Like Savard last year. Value of lower tiers of 1st round draft is basically equivalent to a 2nd.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Some GM out there could sacrifice a 1st for him, but for some reason I feel like they won’t have to

 

[Lemonlimey]

They’re getting a first. The exact deadline type every GM has a hard on for

hell, Kyle Quincey got a first