Bedard rookie predictions

[Mickey Marner]

I think he’ll come out of the gate hot, get some threads asking if he’ll score 50, win the Rocket etc. Then hit a bit of a development wall as teams adjust to him & shooting percentages regress to their mean and end up with around 65 pts.

They really should get some veteran centers to insulate him. Matthews wouldn’t have scored 40 without guys like Kadri and Bozak to take some of the pressure off. If they’re going to throw him to the wolves, at the very least get him an Erik Haula or Claude Giroux to lighten the load.

 

[Zero Requiem]

I expect him to be atleast as good as McDavid was as a rookie (on pace for a top three scoring finish), anything less would be a pretty big disappointment considering all the hype that this kid has been getting.

 

[Happyhary9]

The assist numbers show he's more of a goal scorer but less of a playmaker compared to Crosby. His comparables are probably more Ovechkin and Matthews than Crosby and McDavid.

While he is not the same level playmaker as Sid and McDavid, he is a better playmaker then AO and Matthews for sure (more willing as well).

People just look at the stats and think he isn't a good playmaker. He is very good playmaker, his team just lacks goal scores (well talent as well). Regina has only 3 NHL picks on the team including Bedard. Both his wingers Suzdalev (3rd round pick) and Howe (projected mid first in 24) both are more playmaker then sniper as well. Basically he had to shoulder the goal scoring load for the Pats. In the WJC-20 when given talent to play with the assist totals went up to 2 per game. He had a 9g to 14a there. He will be more in that ratio( between 3:4 and 3:5)in the NHL. He won't be like AO/Matthews were he scores more goals then assists. So as long as he at least has some talent to play with he will put up some assists.

 

[Ben White]

About point per game

 

[Paulinbc]

34 points.

 

[Xirik]

While he is not the same level playmaker as Sid and McDavid, he is a better playmaker then AO and Matthews for sure (more willing as well).

People just look at the stats and think he isn't a good playmaker. He is very good playmaker, his team just lacks goal scores (well talent as well). Regina has only 3 NHL picks on the team including Bedard. Both his wingers Suzdalev (3rd round pick) and Howe (projected mid first in 24) both are more playmaker then sniper as well. Basically he had to shoulder the goal scoring load for the Pats. In the WJC-20 when given talent to play with the assist totals went up to 2 per game. He had a 9g to 14a there. He will be more in that ratio( between 3:4 and 3:5)in the NHL. He won't be like AO/Matthews were he scores more goals then assists. So as long as he at least has some talent to play with he will put up some assists.

Chicago's current team isn't any better and could probably be called worse, Hall isn't his 2017 self and Reichel is a rookie. The rest of the forwards aren't really worth mentioning.

 

[Happyhary9]

Chicago's current team isn't any better and could probably be called worse, Hall isn't his 2017 self and Reichel is a rookie. The rest of the forwards aren't really worth mentioning.

Ya so? I am talking over his career. He will get some good enough wings over his career. He is a better playmaker then AO (who doesn't even pass much) or Matthews and it is easy to see if you actually watch Bedard play and don't look just at a stat sheet.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I could see him in the 90+ range. It's Chicago, so why restrain him from getting points and force defense. Which incase he'll be a -20 or something.

Let him eat and make a splash.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

32/43/75

 

[Xirik]

Ya so? I am talking over his career. He will get some good enough wings over his career. He is a better playmaker then AO (who doesn't even pass much) or Matthews and it is easy to see if you actually watch Bedard play and don't look just at a stat sheet.

Sorry, This thread is about his rookie season, I just assumed that's what everyone was talking about.

 

[VaporTrail]

28 touchdowns 17 interceptions...497 rushing yards 6 rushing TD's

 

[VIPettersson]

69 goals 69 assists 69 GP

 

[Happyhary9]

Sorry, This thread is about his rookie season, I just assumed that's what everyone was talking about.

Overall thread yes. But you need to read the convo that was going on. It was about Bedard and his overall playmaking ability. As in he won't be like an AO/Matthews who have a lot of seasons where the score a decent amout of goals over assists.

 

[MardyBum]

Let's go with. . 44 goals, 40 assists in 78 games.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

72 points

 

[KaosKommando]

He will do good. Not great. He will put up points. Not as many goals. He will be the best player on the Hawks. Not on Preds. He will have a great ensemble around him. Or not.

I'm tingling for 42 goals and more assists. Maybe 43 or even more. That rounds about to about 84, or maybe even more.

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

36 goals 34 assists

410 blocked shots

820 hit

20 misconduct

30 fight

 

[Zalos]

Realistically, on the team he is, he should get between 60 and 70 points.

 

[Pancakes]

I'll say 40-40. Tons of guys are scoring a PPG or near it now so I don't see why Bedard can't approach that. You'd probably be disappointed if he didn't, right?

With his hands and shot he's going to be an instant weapon on the powerplay. It might take him a bit longer to get going 5 on 5 but he'll do enough there to get to 40-40 imo.

 

[Maitz]

I think he will be around

25g-35a 60 pts

 

[Video Nasty]

Barzal had 85 points in 82 games as a rookie 6 years ago when scoring began its uptick. He was scoreless in his first 5 games. He was essentially a 90 point player for most of that season. Please don’t give me a sob story about Tavares, the Islanders being a playoff team before he joined, or anything else that is a point about how a phenomenal talent can’t have a great season on a bad team. Barzal isn’t close to Bedard.

I’m not too concerned about Bedard adding another 15-20 points on top of that. Players like him get theirs regardless of who surrounds him.

Lack of talent and bad squads around them didn’t stop Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid from getting theirs either, and based off what I’ve witnessed, there’s little reason to doubt it’ll stop Bedard.

Folks are way too concerned about the talent level of Chicago. News flash. These generational talents all get drafted to bad teams. Yet somehow we’ve still experienced some terrific rookie campaigns.

Sub 60 point predictions here when Eichel managed 56 points on a team that ranked last in both goals scored (couldn’t even managed 2 goals per game) and goals allowed the season before he was drafted, still scored only 200 goals in their first season with him, and saw scoring levels nearly half a goal less per team in 2015-2016 compared to 2022-2023.

Yeah, so realistic and reasonable.

He’ll only have less than 60 points if he ends up playing less than 50 games.

 

[authentic]

around 50 points seems like a pretty reasonable prediction imo, specially considering he will likely receive plenty of playing time.

Goals you mean?

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Barzal had 85 points in 82 games as a rookie 6 years ago when scoring began its uptick. He was scoreless in his first 5 games. He was essentially a 90 point player for most of that season. Please don’t give me a sob story about Tavares, the Islanders being a playoff team before he joined, or anything else that is a point about how a phenomenal talent can’t have a great season on a bad team. Barzal isn’t close to Bedard.

I’m not too concerned about Bedard adding another 15-20 points on top of that. Players like him get theirs regardless of who surrounds him.

Lack of talent and bad squads around them didn’t stop Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid from getting theirs either, and based off what I’ve witnessed, there’s little reason to doubt it’ll stop Bedard.

Folks are way too concerned about the talent level of Chicago. News flash. These generational talents all get drafted to bad teams. Yet somehow we’ve still experienced some terrific rookie campaigns.

Sub 60 point predictions here when Eichel managed 56 points on a team that ranked last in both goals scored (couldn’t even managed 2 goals per game) and goals allowed the season before he was drafted, still scored only 200 goals in their first season with him, and saw scoring levels nearly half a goal less per team in 2015-2016 compared to 2022-2023.

Yeah, so realistic and reasonable.

He’ll only have less than 60 points if he ends up playing less than 50 games.

Barzal is a poor comparison.

Barzal was 21, Bedard is 18.
Barzal was then 6 foot 0, plus, he is/was way better, stronger skater as well.

 

[Video Nasty]

Barzal is a poor comparison.

Barzal was 21, Bedard is 18.
Barzal was then 6 foot 0, plus, he is/was way better, stronger skater as well.

He was 20 and if you think being two inches shorter is going to stop Bedard from being effective when a player like St. Louis won 2 scoring titles in this league at unconventional ages like 28 and 37, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[Happyhary9]

Barzal is a poor comparison.

Barzal was 21, Bedard is 18.
Barzal was then 6 foot 0, plus, he is/was way better, stronger skater as well.

Haha. Only thing accurate is the first sentence, because Bedard is the much better player.

1. Barzal was 20
2. Ya Barzal was 6' but also 187. Bedard is 185. Despite 2 inches shorter he is only 2 pounds less.
3. Barzal is/was way better haha. Pass the pipe. Lets look at both players the year before they entered the NHL which both played in the WHL and for Canada at WJC-20.
Barzel (at 19) WHL-41gp 10g 69a 79p
WJC-20 7gp 3g 5a 8p
Bedard (at 17) WHL- 57gp 71g 72a 143p
WJC-20 7gp 9g 14a 23p