The division is most definitely in reach, the question can the Bears reach it? Time will tell.
As for the Packers, they'll split this year.
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As for the Packers, they'll split this year.
Malagahawks
We tanked hard and got Bedard!! Happy Days!!
If true, time to draft a new guard next year. He's just too injury prone. He can be the swing guard in 2024 and then decide if he is worth an extension or not.
No Fun Shogun
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Vikings and probably Lions, even accounting for the Lions’ way of finding ways to trip themselves up, and I wouldn‘t discount the Packers‘ ability to find a lucky horseshoe or twelve.
I wish I shared this board’s optimism, but they stunk two years ago and got worse last year when the board consensus was that rock bottom had already been reached and a rebound was likely going to happen. At a certain point, pessimism should be the standard, and I have yet to see really much to deter myself from that for a team that has one winning record in the last twelve years. Ownership is rotten, management has yet to prove itself, the team had holes galore from last season and I’m not thinking that anyone’s remotely suggested that they’ve plugged all of them up in the draft and free agency, and, to be frank, I’m still low on Fields.
And I said 7-9 wins was their ceiling, which means I’m saying they could improve by 4-6 wins. That’s not nothing. Sure, the NFC North might be a lark and winnable like the AL Central…. But that didn’t really do much for the Sox this year, and I’m not really thinking it’ll do much for the Bears, either.
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Yea it's likely the Vikings division to lose but I'd happily argue the Lions are the most talented team in this division. I like them more as a team, but just like the Maple Leafs in the NHL, it is more of "Lions are gonna Lions" when the going gets tough. But man, their defense, their o-line, etc. is very good. And Jared Goff is a solid QB. Not great but not bad. I'd trust him over Kirk Cousins to manage a game for example.
The Bears are at least a year away but they are very much on the come up. Unless Justin Fields plays out of his mind this year (possible, but I still don't think the o-line is good enough to protect him just yet).
The Bears are at least a year away but they are very much on the come up. Unless Justin Fields plays out of his mind this year (possible, but I still don't think the o-line is good enough to protect him just yet).
TLEH
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I feel like people are underrating the Bears. They weren't the worst team in the league last year.
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I think if their offense clicks they could have a top 5 offense in the NFL this year.
Anywhere between 11 wins or 6 wins. They have the easiest schedule in the NFL; NFC Central, NFC South, AFC West, Clev, Was, Ari. Probably only a couple of the top 10 power teams. A lot of those teams are in transition, whether it's QB or coach. Other than KC, who on the schedule is likely loss; maybe LAC.
They have the talent to win 11 games (a 1000 yd WR, two ~1000yd backs, ProBowl LBs) but are inexperienced or thin in a couple of critical positions (OL, DB). Simply a matter of how soon the rookies get up to speed and they can get that winning mentality, which can be a big ask after a 3 win season. If Fields proves he's the Bears QB of the future, they'll win 10 or 11 games.
They have the talent to win 11 games (a 1000 yd WR, two ~1000yd backs, ProBowl LBs) but are inexperienced or thin in a couple of critical positions (OL, DB). Simply a matter of how soon the rookies get up to speed and they can get that winning mentality, which can be a big ask after a 3 win season. If Fields proves he's the Bears QB of the future, they'll win 10 or 11 games.
TLEH
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Their offensive line is horrible and going to hold them back. But they have a lot of talent.
They went 1-7 in one score games, they aren't going to do that again.
No Fun Shogun
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Man.... going from tied for the worst record to a top five offense?
Hope you're right, but that seems like an obvious setup for drastic disappointment.
Hope you're right, but that seems like an obvious setup for drastic disappointment.
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I know the news was brought up earlier in this thread already, but letting 8 mil/yr durable 24-yr old James Daniels leave for nothing, while keeping 12 mil/yr Cody Whitehair and counting on injury-prone then-rookie Teven Jenkins, because OL-guru Poles fancies "length", has bit the GM in the ass again, never mind the other injuried acquisitions this year and prior (Lucas Patrick, Nate Davis, ...):
chicago.suntimes.com
Guard Teven Jenkins’ injury throws Bears for a loop — again
The continuity on the offensive line the Bears hoped would be a benefit for Justin Fields and the offense has not been there — a reminder that injuries are a constant threat to the rebuild.
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I still prefer Teven Jenkins over James Daniels, even with the injury concerns.I know the news was brought up earlier in this thread already, but letting 8 mil/yr durable 24-yr old James Daniels leave for nothing, while keeping 12 mil/yr Cody Whitehair and counting on injury-prone then-rookie Teven Jenkins, because OL-guru Poles fancies "length", has bit the GM in the ass again, never mind the other injuried acquisitions this year and prior (Lucas Patrick, Nate Davis, ...):
Guard Teven Jenkins’ injury throws Bears for a loop — again
The continuity on the offensive line the Bears hoped would be a benefit for Justin Fields and the offense has not been there — a reminder that injuries are a constant threat to the rebuild.
Only one of them is a center.I know the news was brought up earlier in this thread already, but letting 8 mil/yr durable 24-yr old James Daniels leave for nothing, while keeping 12 mil/yr Cody Whitehair and counting on injury-prone then-rookie Teven Jenkins, because OL-guru Poles fancies "length", has bit the GM in the ass again, never mind the other injuried acquisitions this year and prior (Lucas Patrick, Nate Davis, ...):
Guard Teven Jenkins’ injury throws Bears for a loop — again
The continuity on the offensive line the Bears hoped would be a benefit for Justin Fields and the offense has not been there — a reminder that injuries are a constant threat to the rebuild.
Panzerspitze
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Who?
James Daniels played two years as a center in college, and professioinally in Chicago:
James Daniels - Wikipedia
Whitehair is switching to center from guard this pre-season. He played center before as well, IIRC and per the James Daniels wiki above.
Lucas Patrick was brought in last year by Poles as center/guard, to unseat Sam Multipur.
I would too, given the tantalizing size. However, availability, availability, availability!
I get the injuries but the talent just too hard to ignore. With that said, as much as I like Jenkins, I hope the Bears draft a guard in the 2nd/3rd round. Either that drafted guard replaces Jenkins because Tevin cannot stay healthy or he replaces Nate Davis in a couple of years.
Daniels was drafted as a guard because while he blocked well he wasn’t a very good center.Who?
James Daniels played two years as a center in college, and professioinally in Chicago:
James Daniels - Wikipedia
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Whitehair is switching to center from guard this pre-season. He played center before as well, IIRC and per the James Daniels wiki above.
Lucas Patrick was brought in last year by Poles as center/guard, to unseat Sam Multipur.
I would too, given the tantalizing size. However, availability, availability, availability!
Injuries forced chicago to try him there again and it wasn’t a good thing.
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And people think the Bears are gonna have a good year (I've maintained they're still a year away at the least)... the O-Line was already average with the healthy guys and now with players injured... oof (Jenkins is definitely a big loss in itself). Let's hope Fields stays healthy all year. He took ALOT of shots last year and that's with him being mobile. Praying it isn't another long year with him having barely any time to throw the ball.
belfour30
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It isn't for lack of trying from the FO, but if the OL is ass this year idk if Fields can take the necessary step. He's gotta have time to throw.
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Justin will start this Sat.
Has to or #1 would have gone nearly a month without live game reps.
Yes please Bears, I would like Chris Jones.
Chris jones is a stud but I just don’t see the price of acquisition, new contract and age worth the bears going after.
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Bears are still under the floor I think. They have to sign their own guys or trade for someone.
Not 100% sure on this
Extensions would take care of any remaining cash needed to spend. Kmet extension and yannick signing gets them right there I believe though.
I do. There is a reason why Ryan Poles has been in contact with the Chiefs about Jones. Regardless of the contract, I have near 100% faith that Flus can get the most out of Jones during a (possibly) stint in Chicago.
But it is funny that there has been some smoke about the Bears being in on both Chris Jones and Jonathan Taylor. It makes me wonder if Poles is planning on making a significant addition to the roster before the season starts.
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