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Lions eliminated by the Seahawks win, but now the Seahawks need those same Lions to beat Green Bay tog team into the playoffs.

Not having all the games start at the same time on the final day of the season remains dumb.
 
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That’s my hope for our trade down partner.
Optimally, the Texans desperately want Bryce Young, and the Colts desperately want Young and CJ Stroud. I think it's unlikely that the Texans give up their second first rounder, but they'd probably be willing to part with at least the higher of their 2nd rounders to ensure they get their guy.
 
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Lions eliminated by the Seahawks win, but now the Seahawks need those same Lions to beat Green Bay tog team into the playoffs.

Not having all the games start at the same time on the final day of the season remains dumb.
They keep the starting times fluid for this very reason. It's wild they weren't playing at the same time as Seattle.
 
I think what the Bears do in the draft will in large part be determined on what they're able to do in free agency. If they're able to sign a stud DT (Payne/Hargrave) an stud Edge Rusher and a stud O-lineman - then I think that would open up the possibilities for what to do in the draft.

If the Raiders are wanting to get a QB and willing to trade up with the Hawks - then I would trade the #1 pick and the late 2nd rounder (from Baltimore - #57?) for the Raiders 1st rounder (#7), 2nd rounder (#38) AND Davante Adams. Then use the #7 pick and #38 pick to draft the best d-lineman and/or o-lineman.
 
I'm hoping that Seattle sees one of the top QBs as way better than any of the others and decides to move the #3 pick and more to the Bears to get their guy. If the cards fall right, Bears still get Will Anderson Jr. plus other picks to speed up this rebuild on both sides of the ball.
 
2023 opponents:

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I swear, I forget every year that we know this the literal second the standings are all decided.
 
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I'm hoping that Seattle sees one of the top QBs as way better than any of the others and decides to move the #3 pick and more to the Bears to get their guy. If the cards fall right, Bears still get Will Anderson Jr. plus other picks to speed up this rebuild on both sides of the ball.
Seattle has the #5 pick now. They fell back in recent weeks. Not likely to get Will Anderson at #5 - but maybe.

I think what the Bears do in the draft will in large part be determined on what they're able to do in free agency. If they're able to sign a stud DT (Payne/Hargrave) an stud Edge Rusher and a stud O-lineman - then I think that would open up the possibilities for what to do in the draft.

If the Raiders are wanting to get a QB and willing to trade up with the Hawks - then I would trade the #1 pick and the late 2nd rounder (from Baltimore - #57?) for the Raiders 1st rounder (#7), 2nd rounder (#38) AND Davante Adams. Then use the #7 pick and #38 pick to draft the best d-lineman and/or o-lineman.
I wouldn't do that trade. Devante is great, but he's on the wrong side of 30. Thats too much draft capital to give up for him.
 
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Seattle has the #5 pick now. They fell back in recent weeks. Not likely to get Will Anderson at #5 - but maybe.


I wouldn't do that trade. Devante is great, but he's on the wrong side of 30. Thats too much draft capital to give up for him.
Damn, there goes that dream scenario then.

I'm also not keen on that trade for Devante Adams. Would rather add more young guys as we need skill at pretty much all positions now.
 
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BTW here is the now decided top 14 of the draft:

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Chicago Bears[/TD]
[TD]3–14[/TD]
[TD].572[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Houston Texans[/TD]
[TD]3–13–1[/TD]
[TD].481[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Arizona Cardinals[/TD]
[TD]4–13[/TD]
[TD].52[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Indianapolis Colts[/TD]
[TD]4–12–1[/TD]
[TD].512[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Denver Broncos (traded to Seattle Seahawks)[/TD]
[TD]5–12[/TD]
[TD].481[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Los Angeles Rams (traded to Detroit Lions)[/TD]
[TD]5–12[/TD]
[TD].519[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Las Vegas Raiders[/TD]
[TD]6–11[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Atlanta Falcons[/TD]
[TD]7–10[/TD]
[TD].467[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Carolina Panthers[/TD]
[TD]7–10[/TD]
[TD].472[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]New Orleans Saints (traded to Philadelphia Eagles)[/TD]
[TD]7–10[/TD]
[TD].507[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Tennessee Titans[/TD]
[TD]7–10[/TD]
[TD].510[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Cleveland Browns (traded to Houston Texans)[/TD]
[TD]7–10[/TD]
[TD].524[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]New York Jets[/TD]
[TD]7–10[/TD]
[TD].539[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]New England Patriots[/TD]
[TD]8–9[/TD]
[TD].502[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Damn, there goes that dream scenario then.

I'm also not keen on that trade for Devante Adams. Would rather add more young guys as we need skill at pretty much all positions now.
Yeah. Devante is amazing. I just worry about giving all that up for a guy heading in to his 10th season. It's dangerous. It might work out. Or it might blow up on you as Russell Wilson is on Denver.
 
Damn, there goes that dream scenario then.

I'm also not keen on that trade for Devante Adams. Would rather add more young guys as we need skill at pretty much all positions now.

Yeah, that's why I couched the proposal with what the Hawks were able to do in free agency - if they can get a 3-tech, an edge rusher and an o-lineman - plus add a true WR1 before they make their draft picks sounds like a good plan to me.
 
Gonna come down to if Poles really likes Young/Stroud over Fields or not. But ima say 99% chance Bears are trade either the pick or Fields come the draft.
Taking Stroud/Young is a step back for the Bears, imo. You would be having to restart the development process. It's a risk but go all in on developing Fields.
 
I think what the Bears do in the draft will in large part be determined on what they're able to do in free agency. If they're able to sign a stud DT (Payne/Hargrave) an stud Edge Rusher and a stud O-lineman - then I think that would open up the possibilities for what to do in the draft.

If the Raiders are wanting to get a QB and willing to trade up with the Hawks - then I would trade the #1 pick and the late 2nd rounder (from Baltimore - #57?) for the Raiders 1st rounder (#7), 2nd rounder (#38) AND Davante Adams. Then use the #7 pick and #38 pick to draft the best d-lineman and/or o-lineman.
Josh is under pressure to win in 2023. I don’t think he’s going to bet his HC future on a rookie QB. So don’t see LV moving up for a QB.

Be interesting to see if any of the teams in the top 10 fall in love with these QBs. It was hyped as a great QB draft but I don’t find it that impressive.

I’d feel the best about stroud, though I don’t think he will become an elite guy like Allen, Burrow, Mahomes. Herbert and Lawrence trending into elite category. Doesn’t have ther explosive mobility of a Jackson or Hurts. But should be a good quality starter at the level of Dak. Young, it’s his size. I think he will measure around 5’11 at the combine or shorter which will knock him down a peg for clubs. The smaller guys in the last year have been complaining about getting hit like Russ and Kyler.
 
Bears got the #1 pick AND the Packers are eliminated from the playoffs?! What a glorious day.
Agreed. Lovie went for the win and I think the Vikings will lose in the first round. The Bears should take Will Anderson.
 
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Bears will have to stay at 1. No team is worried that they will select 1 of the 2 QBs.
Teams will be worried that a team below them will trade with the Bears and select the QB they wanted.
If the team at #2 and the team at #5 both covet the same QB what will the team at 5 pay to jump to #1? What will the team at 2 pay to keep that from happening?
 
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