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lol at those three candidates...rather have daboll, at least he might bring some things from buffalo and the way they used allen to the table wrt fields and his development...
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Blackhawkswincup
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Far from inspiring choices if case but out of those 3 then guy I would want is Caldwell
At least his teams were well coached and competitive
Bears have lacked both coaching and being competitive since Lovie was fired
Odd way to judge him but lets take look
Caldwell as HC and the performance of his QB's
2009 = 14-2 (Lost Super Bowl to New Orleans Saints 31-17)
Peyton Manning = 4,500 yds with 33 TD's and 16 INT's
2010 = 10-6 (Lost Wildcard to New York Jets 17-17)
Peyton Manning = 4,700 yds with 33 TD's and 17 INT's
2011 = 2-14
Curtis Painter = 1,541 yds with 6 TD's and 9 INT's
Dan Orlovsky = 1,201 yds with 6 TD's and 4 INT
Kerry Collins = 481 yds with 2 TD's and 2 INT
2014 = 11-5 (Lost Wildcard to Dallas Cowboys 24-20)
Matthew Stafford = 4,257 yds with 22 TD's and 12 INT's
2015 = 7-9
Matthew Stafford = 4,262 yds with 32 TD's and 13 INT's
Dan Orlovsky = 201 yds with 1 TD and 1 INT
2016 = 9-7 (Lost Wildcard to Seattle Seahawks 26-6)
Matthew Stafford = 4,327 yds with 24 TD's and 10 INT's
2017 = 9-7
Matthew Stafford = 4,446 yds with 29 TD's and 10 INT's
Unless Curtis Painter is suiting up at QB his offenses have been pretty good for most of his coaching career and his teams were respectable or good outside of the season that Indy didn't have Manning
madgoat33
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Theres 6 qbs in nfl history with multiple seasons of 40td passes and caldwell had the good fortune of having 1 of them for 6/7 seasons with fairly limited success. Hes also 67 at this point. I don't think hes a difference-making coach. Bears could obviously do worse, but I'd hope they aspire to do better.
Think the bears end up with Erbeflus and Brown and the Giants end up with Dabol and the exec from the Bills
TLEH
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Eberflus is not at the top of my list and Frazier did a lot of good things with the Buffalo D, but last night was a pretty rough one to watch, especially how he played that last 13 seconds. Frazier would just be more of the same 1985 Bears BS that no one wants.
I guess Caldwell from that list but he doesn't really excite me either. He did do a good job for the most part when he was in the league with the Lions.
I guess Caldwell from that list but he doesn't really excite me either. He did do a good job for the most part when he was in the league with the Lions.
Kaners Bald Spot
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I realize there is a larger body of work, but the game plan and failures we saw from Eberflus v. Jags and Frazier yesterday get them eliminated immediately.
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So itbis being asked a lot of the Buffalo@KC game yesterday was the greatest game of any sport ever played?
The fact a coin toss decided it without Alkenand Buffalo even getting a chance inOT tarnished this game as being the greatest game ever played.
It was of course a specular and great game but flawed onthebynfairness of only 1 team gettibgva chance to score in OT...
No other sports does this..
Yes Buffalo causedctge OT by not taking time off the clock on their kick-off with 13 seconds left in regulation.
Yes everyone knows the rules...but the rule is unfair.
Change the rule to more lijevwhatbthe NCAA and CFL use
.
Put the ball on the 25 yd line and give each team 2 possessions and force any conversion of a touchdown to be a try from thec3vyd line to get 2 points...
There was an NCAA gamevtgatvwentvIbthink to the 8th OT attempt to score beforecacteM win it from the shorter field.
But at least both teams always had equal chances to score.
Secondly...Because this coin flip decided the winner,it cannot even be the greatest football game ever played..that sticks in my memory as the 1963 Rose Bowl Game where #1 USC beat #2
Wisconsin 42-37....The Player Of The Game Award was shared by both Quarterbacks ,Pete Beathard fir USC abd Ron Vander Kelen for Wisconsin....for many years this was called The Game of The Century ....I just remember as a teenager being gkuedctobtgectv watching that game...so many great pkays.
The Buffalo @KC AFC Semi-Final yesterday wss certainly as exciting ...also greatvplaysxandvpkayers...but to be decided by a voin flip giving h only 1 offensexa chance....NO...that robs it of Greatest Game ever..you have to be fair...Itvisca rooted OT ruke in the NFL and I am ot a fan of any singlevNFL teM so mot biased in any way on this matter .
I woukd have been just
as upset if it was KC denied a chance to respond on offense if they had lost the coin flip and Buffalo scored to win victory .
The NFL must give both deserving teams a chance to score till one fails THE CHANCE
.
Not the luck of a flip limiting equal opportunity.
The fact a coin toss decided it without Alkenand Buffalo even getting a chance inOT tarnished this game as being the greatest game ever played.
It was of course a specular and great game but flawed onthebynfairness of only 1 team gettibgva chance to score in OT...
No other sports does this..
Yes Buffalo causedctge OT by not taking time off the clock on their kick-off with 13 seconds left in regulation.
Yes everyone knows the rules...but the rule is unfair.
Change the rule to more lijevwhatbthe NCAA and CFL use
.
Put the ball on the 25 yd line and give each team 2 possessions and force any conversion of a touchdown to be a try from thec3vyd line to get 2 points...
There was an NCAA gamevtgatvwentvIbthink to the 8th OT attempt to score beforecacteM win it from the shorter field.
But at least both teams always had equal chances to score.
Secondly...Because this coin flip decided the winner,it cannot even be the greatest football game ever played..that sticks in my memory as the 1963 Rose Bowl Game where #1 USC beat #2
Wisconsin 42-37....The Player Of The Game Award was shared by both Quarterbacks ,Pete Beathard fir USC abd Ron Vander Kelen for Wisconsin....for many years this was called The Game of The Century ....I just remember as a teenager being gkuedctobtgectv watching that game...so many great pkays.
The Buffalo @KC AFC Semi-Final yesterday wss certainly as exciting ...also greatvplaysxandvpkayers...but to be decided by a voin flip giving h only 1 offensexa chance....NO...that robs it of Greatest Game ever..you have to be fair...Itvisca rooted OT ruke in the NFL and I am ot a fan of any singlevNFL teM so mot biased in any way on this matter .
I woukd have been just
as upset if it was KC denied a chance to respond on offense if they had lost the coin flip and Buffalo scored to win victory .
The NFL must give both deserving teams a chance to score till one fails THE CHANCE
.
Not the luck of a flip limiting equal opportunity.
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No Fun Shogun
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At least if we hire two Indy guys you'd think it would mean they had a good working relationship at least.
madgoat33
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Maybe theyll bring some of thebluck that allowed them to go from peyton to andrew luck
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
Poles is best of that bunch
f*** off with this Wolf nonsense
Don't want a thing to do with anyone from Pats organization
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
The entire sport is geared to give the offense an advantage. Defenses are absolutely gassed at the end of games.
It's a really f***ing stupid rule, simple as.
Why the f*** are the Bears bringing in HCs for second rounds when we aren't even that far with a GM yet? Unreal.
I'm surprised many here want Poles. This is another guy who has only been in a single organization (Chiefs), is young and has most of his experience in scouting. Reminds me a LOT of Pace.
I'm surprised many here want Poles. This is another guy who has only been in a single organization (Chiefs), is young and has most of his experience in scouting. Reminds me a LOT of Pace.
Kaners Bald Spot
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Would it change your mind about Wolf if you knew he was with the Packers for most of his career until a couple years ago?
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That makes it a little more palatable but at the end of the day it's still a guy who has been in only one organization. Even if you have different leadership, everyone knows every place of business has its own culture, no matter who is the leader. If we're hiring a younger/inexperienced guy, I'd much, much prefer someone who has worked in multiple places.
??
He was in the Saints scouting department from 2002 - 2012. Sure, his last job there was director of pro personnel, but most of his time there was in scouting.
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