BE A GM Thread - Part III (NHL 18/NHL 17/whatever)

[Duke16]

2016-17

Pre-Season:
[TOR/WPG] Tobias Lindberg, Alexey Marchenko for Jacob Cederholm, 2017 4th
-
Alex Semin returns from Russia - signs 1y/$2.85M
-
Josh Leivo waived, claimed by VAN

Lineup:
J. vanRiemsdyk (86) - T. Bozak (85) - M. Marner (84)
Z. Hyman (80) - A. Matthews (86) - W. Nylander (83)
L. Komarov (84) - N. Kadri (85) - C. Brown (79)
M. Martin (81) - B. Boyle (84) - A. Semin (83)
Ex. E. Fehr (80)

M. Rielly (85) - C. Carrick (80)
J. Gardiner (85) - N. Zaitsev (83)
M. Hunwick (81) - R. Polak (81)
Ex. M. Marincin (79)

F. Andersen (88)
C. McElhinney (74)
-
Leafs claim D Brandon Davidson off waivers from MTL
-
Martin Marincin waived, clears
-
[TOR/MIN] Martin Marincin, Curtis McElhinney, 2017 4th for Darcy Kuemper

Trade Deadline:
[TOR/MIN] Kasperi Kapanen, 2018 2nd, 2020 2nd for Jared Spurgeon

Record: 45-31-6 (96 PTS)

Playoffs:
Round 1 - Lost 4-1 to NYR

Awards:
Mitch Marner wins Calder Memorial Trophy (86 PTS)

2017 Draft:
1 23 D Erik Brannstrom MED Top 4 D
2 54 RW Kole Lind LOW Top 6 F
2 60 D Cale Fleury LOW Top 4 D
4 111 RW Patrik Bajkov MED AHL Top 6 F
4 113 RW Sami Tamminen LOW Bottom 6 F
5 143 G Veini Vehvilainen MED Fringe Starter
6 173 D Garrett McFadden MED AHL Top 2 D
7 203 D Jonathan Smart MED AHL Top 2 D

Released:
Colin Greening
Ben Smith
Milan Michalek
Stephen Desrocher
Andrew Campbell
Brooks Laich
Nikita Korostelev
Matt Hunwick
Brian Boyle
Sergey Kalinin
Justin Holl
Fabrice Herzog
Seth Griffith
Antoine Bibeau

Re-Signed:
Alex Semin 3y/$2.975M AAV
Martins Dzierkals 3y/$825K AAV ELC
Jeremy Bracco 3y/$775K AAV ELC
Nikita Zaitsev 2y/$2.825M AAV
Calle Rosen 1y/$850K
Zach Hyman 1y/$850K
Connor Brown 4y/$2.75M AAV
Andreas Borgman 2y/$775K AAV 2-way
Garret Sparks 1y/$675K 2-way
Darcy Kuemper 4y/$2.1M AAV
Adam Brooks signs ELC
Erik Brannstrom signs ELC
Vladimir Bobylev signs ELC
Carl Grumdstrom signs ELC
Sami Tamminen signs ELC

FA Signings:
Jordan Weal 1y/$1.4M AAV
Josh Jooris 1y/$1M

[TOR/BOS] Matt Martin for a 2018 7th

 

[Duke16]

2016-17: hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=135067631&postcount=15

2017-18

Pre-Season:
Nikita Soshnikov waived, claimed by STL
-
Jordan Weal waived, clears

Lineup:
W. Nylander (86) - A. Matthews (92) - A. Semin (83)
J. vanRiemsdyk (86) - T. Bozak (87) - M. Marner (86)
L. Komarov (84) - N. Kadri (86) - C. Brown (83)
K. Rychel (80) - J. Jooris (80) - Z. Hyman (81)

M. Rielly (90) - J. Spurgeon (85)
J. Gardiner (86) - N. Zaitsev (83)
C. Rosen (82) - C. Carrick (83)
Ex. B. Davidson (81)

F. Andersen (88)
D. Kuemper (83)
-
BLOCKBUSTER TRADE:
[TOR/CBJ] William Nylander, Rinat Valiev for Seth Jones, Veeti Vainio

Trade Deadline:
[TOR/LA] Connor Carrick for 2019 2nd, 2020 2nd

Record: 38-35-9 (85 PTS)

2018 Draft:
1 10 C Joe Veleno MED Elite
2 40 D Antti Engren LOW 7th D
3 70 G Yuri Dmitriev MED Fringe Starter
4 100 G Jake Draper LOW Fringe Starter
5 130 C Luke Moncada LOW AHL Top 6 F
6 160 D Santeri Salmela MED AHL Top 2 D
7 190 C Krystoph Hrabik MED AHL Top 6 F
7 192 D Andrei Golikov LOW AHL Top 2 D

Released:
Jack Walker
Brandon Davidson
Nicolas Mattinen
Eric Fehr
Josh Jooris
Leo Komarov
Tyler Bozak
James vanRiemsdyk
Frederik Gauthier
Garret Sparks

Re-Signed:
Keaton Middleton signs ELC
Jacob Cederholm signs ELC
Kerby Rychel 1y/$950K
Calle Rosen 2y/$2.75M AAV
Zach Hyman 2y/$1.1M AAV
Veini Vehvilainen signs ELC
Joe Veleno signs ELC
Kole Lind signs ELC

FA Signings:
Patrick Marleau 2y/$5.25M AAV
Mark Letestu 1y/$1.5M AAV
Antoine Vermette 2y/$4.5M AAV

[TOR/LA] Jake Gardiner for Adrian Kempe, Kyle Clifford, 2021 2nd

 

[Duke16]

2017-18: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=135071759&postcount=152

2018-19

Lineup:
P. Marleau (85) - A. Matthews (92) - M. Marner (90)
A. Kempe (85) - N. Kadri (86) - C. Brown (83)
C. Grundstrom (81) - A. Vermette (84) - A. Semin (81)
K. Clifford (80) - M. Letestu (81) - Z. Hyman (81)
Ex. A. Johnsson (80)

M. Rielly (91) - S. Jones (88)
C. Rosen (85) - J. Spurgeon (85)
A. Borgman (82) - N. Zaitsev (83)

F. Andersen (88)
D. Kuemper (83)
-
Kerby Rychel placed on waivers, claimed by WSH

Record: 41-33-8 (90 PTS)

Playoffs:
Round 1: Won 4-3 vs. BUF
Round 2: Won 4-2 vs. MTL
Round 3: Lost 4-3 vs. PHI

2019 Draft:
1 27 RW Teemu Hauhtonen MED Top 9 F
2 44 LW Yury Kapitanov MED Top 9 F
2 57 C Will Marchant MED Top 9 F
3 87 C Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
4 117 LW Cameron Hough
5 147 D Vladislav Utkin
6 177 RW Mathias Laferriere
7 207 G Arvid Soderblom

Released:
Nikita Zaitsev
Mark Letestu
Patrick Bajkov
Jonathan Smart
Nathan Horton Bought Out

Re-Signed:
Cale Fleury signs ELC
Garrett McFadden signs ELC
Auston Matthews 8y/$10M AAV
Adrian Kempe 3y/$3M AAV
Dmytro Timashov 2y/$950K AAV
Andrew Nielsen 1y/$825K
Travis Dermott 1y/825K
Yury Dmitriev signs ELC
Andreas Borgman 1y/$2.3M
Andreas Johnsson 1y/925K
Mitch Marner 5y/$9.2M AAV

Cap Clearing Trades:
[TOR/NYI] Patrick Marleau $1M ret for 2020 3rd
[TOR/STL] Kyle Clifford, Santeri Salmela, Krystoph Hrabik for Cameron Maher
[TOR/VAN] Darcy Kuemper for 2021 3rd

 

[Duke16]

2018-19: hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=135074253&postcount=153

2019-20

Pre-Season:
[TOR/NSH] Andreas Borgman, Zach Hyman for Radek Koblizek, Cam Askew, 2020 2nd
[TOR/MIN] Erik Brannstrom, 2020 2nd for Charlie Coyle, Dmitriy Sokolov

Lineup:
A. Kempe (86) - A. Matthews (92) - M. Marner (93)
C. Grundstrom (84) - N. Kadri (86) - J. Bracco (80)
D. Timashov (82) - C. Coyle (85) - C. Brown (83)
A. Johnsson (83) - V. Bobylev (79) - M. Dzierkals (81)
Ex. A. Semin (81)

M. Rielly (92) - S. Jones (90)
T. Dermott (81) - C. Rosen (86)
A. Nielsen (82) - J. Spurgeon (86)

F. Andersen (88)
V. Vehvilainen (78)

 

[Deku]

I lowered Tarasenko's overall from 93 to 90 (and potential from franchise to medium elite) so he wouldn't get 100 points every season.
In the very first season he scored 69 goals and 109 points

As a result of this, Paul Statsny and Alex Steen were #2 and #3 in NHL scoring, with 95 & 93 points each........

 

[Deku]

Wow this game is broken. I offered my RFA Tanner Pearson 4 years @ 2.75 mil and he accepted. The game somehow signed him to a 1 year, 3.1 million deal that brings him to UFA. What the ****? Where did that come from?????

 

[Cor]

Wow this game is broken. I offered my RFA Tanner Pearson 4 years @ 2.75 mil and he accepted. The game somehow signed him to a 1 year, 3.1 million deal that brings him to UFA. What the ****? Where did that come from?????

Did you qualify him?

 

[Deku]

Did you qualify him?

Oooooooooooh ok yes, that's what happened. I guess he signed the previous QO despite the contract that I gave him.

 

[Cor]

Oooooooooooh ok yes, that's what happened. I guess he signed the previous QO despite the contract that I gave him.

Yup. He accepted the qualifying offer, rather than your contract offer, is all

 

[Deku]

Player growth is so ****ed.

I had an 83 overall center with top 6 potential and very good offensive stats.
At 23 years old he put up 78 points and grew to an 87 for the next season.

Then he took a slight step back and got 65 the next year, but that's still a good point total for an 87 overall. He also had 17 points in 21 playoff games.

Sim to the re-sign phase........ he is back to 83 overall and will probably now be capped there.

 

[n00bxQb]

Their overall changes when you hit preseason as well and you can see in player growth what is causing the overall adjustment.

Odds are he had a lot of gains from stats and morale rather than natural growth.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Have anyone whove played with Hawks,used ADeBrincat in their line up?.

For an experiement i started a new season,(superstar difficulty settings)
i called up Alex from OHL,put him to 1st line (LW) with PKane (RW) and
CGiroux (C)...yes i traded for Giroux before the season begun .

I also put him to 1st PP unit (RW) also 4 on 4 and (RW) 3 on 3 (C)

He started 67 overall,after the off season he finished with 75 overall.
He played in all 82 reg games,scored 15 goals (6 pp goals),40 points
+ and - +15 (finished 5th in rookie scoring) in 26 play-offs games
he scored 5 goals and 11 assists,16 points...i ended up winning the SC
over Philadelphia.

17-18 pre-season in 6 games he scored 4g+6a,so far in 26 reg games
he has 8 goals,22 assists at 76 overall.

 

[Deku]

Their overall changes when you hit preseason as well and you can see in player growth what is causing the overall adjustment.

Odds are he had a lot of gains from stats and morale rather than natural growth.

How do you define "natural" growth though? Performing well isn't natural because the game said so?
It's stupid. He had top 6 forward potential, and he performed like a top six forward. But the game just says no.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Morale ruins the game.

 

[n00bxQb]

How do you define "natural" growth though? Performing well isn't natural because the game said so?
It's stupid. He had top 6 forward potential, and he performed like a top six forward. But the game just says no.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending EA's continuously baffling player development logic. I'm just saying that overall adjustments are determined by the three categories: Natural growth, Statistical growth, and Morale growth.

Natural growth typically increases in their late-teens/early-20s and then decreases in their 30s. I find most players typically stop making significant gains in natural growth around age 22.

Statistical growth and morale growth are both variable depending on morale and the prior year's stats respectively. These will fluctuate and may result in a "regression to the mean" if there are significant gains in those categories and then the player suffers a long-term injury, fails to have continued success, sees decreased ice time, etc.

Morale is based on ice-time relative to role, individual success relative to role, relationships, etc. It's pretty simple to make gains there (put them on a line equal to or above their role, trade disliked players, don't trade well-liked players, etc.)

Statistical growth, I don't know if role is taken into account. I want to say it's not because I've had 4th line FWDs and Depth FWDs and Minor SCR FWDs who have scored 40+ points and not gained a single point in the category.

Poise seems to go up for most players every year in September (though it's never actually listed as going up on any of the pages; only reason I know is because I log player attributes in a spreadsheet on September 15, December 15, and March 15 of each season), so you may occasionally see an older player bump up in overall in September without anything listed in any of the 3 categories.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

I know its a video game,but its frigging awesome
how much ADeBrincat has grown for me.

1st season (82 games) 15g+25a=40pts +12 (6 PP goals)
- 15 points in the play-offs

2nd season (82 games) 20g+40a=60pts +6 (12 pp goals)
- 20 points in the play-offs

He has gone from 67 overall to 85 overall,can't wait how many
goals,points he scores in his 3rd season for me.

 

[Deku]

Look at the tweet on the bottom and then the top one

"Hockey Analyst" is not too smart

 

[n00bxQb]

The Islanders traded John Tavares to the Leafs in 2018 leading up to the trade deadline for two 1sts (2018, 2019) and Bracco.

The Leafs then got bumped in the first round, Tavares signed with the Islanders in July, and just now the Islanders traded Tavares to the Leafs AGAIN leading up to the trade deadline in 2019 for Cam Atkinson, Brian Dumoulin, a 1st (2020), and a 7th.

This time JT has a 6 x $8.3M contract to go with him, so I assume he's sticking around Toronto for a while, but still pretty funny/face-palmy.

 

[cashinstinct]

2016-17 Montreal Canadiens (NHL17)

Pre-Season:

Trades, before pre-season
Trade (get McDavid)
To Edmonton: Shea Weber, Mtl 3rd round 2017, Mtl 5th round 2017
To Montreal: Connor McDavid

Trade (get rid of Desharnais and a contract)
To Florida: David Desharnais, C. Crisp, Mtl 1st round 2017, Mtl 2nd round 2017
To Montreal: Jaromir Jagr, Florida 1st round 2017

Trade (get rid of Plekanec)
To Boston: T. Plekanec, Wsh 2nd round 2017, Mtl 3rd round 2018
To Montreal: Zdeno Chara, D. Pastrnak

Trade (get rid of losers, to sign free agents)
To Washington: B. Farham, M. Mygren, T. Parisi, M. MacMillan, J. Hanley
To Montreal: Wsh 2017 4th, Wsh 2018 4th

Free agents, signed before pre-season:
J. Wisniewski (85) - 1 year 4.750 M$ (Top 4)
T. Kennedy (82) - 2 years- 1.725 M$ per year (3rd C)
M. Richards (81) - 2 years - 1.050 M$ per year (3rd C)

Trade during season:
To Arizona: J. Racine, M. Bradley
To Montreal: R. Vrbata (84)

Line up:
M. Pacioretty (89) - C. McDavid (92) - J. Jagr (87)
R. Vrbata (84) - A. Galchenyuk (88) - A. Radulov (86)
D. Pastrnak (85) - M. Richards (81) - B. Gallagher (86)
T. Kennedy (82) - P. Danault (80) - A. Shaw (83)

Z. Chara (89) - A. Emelin (85)
J. Wisniewski (85) - J. Petry (85)
A. Markov (85) - N. Beaulieu (83)

C. Price (93) - A. Montoya (82)

Bench: T. Mitchell (79), J. De La Rose (79), Z. Redmond (80)

Scores
Forwards 92, Defense 92, Goalies 94
around 2 M$ capspace with 21 players on roster.



End-of-season 2016-2017: 45-33-4, 94 pts, 7th in Eastern.

 

[Lays]

2016-17 Montreal Canadiens (NHL17)

Pre-Season:

Trades, before pre-season
Trade (get McDavid)
To Edmonton: Shea Weber, Mtl 3rd round 2017, Mtl 5th round 2017
To Montreal: Connor McDavid

Trade (get rid of Desharnais and a contract)
To Florida: David Desharnais, C. Crisp, Mtl 1st round 2017, Mtl 2nd round 2017
To Montreal: Jaromir Jagr, Florida 1st round 2017

Trade (get rid of Plekanec)
To Boston: T. Plekanec, Wsh 2nd round 2017, Mtl 3rd round 2018
To Montreal: Zdeno Chara, D. Pastrnak

Trade (get rid of losers, to sign free agents)
To Washington: B. Farham, M. Mygren, T. Parisi, M. MacMillan, J. Hanley
To Montreal: Wsh 2017 4th, Wsh 2018 4th

Free agents, signed before pre-season:
J. Wisniewski (85) - 1 year 4.750 M$ (Top 4)
T. Kennedy (82) - 2 years- 1.725 M$ per year (3rd C)
M. Richards (81) - 2 years - 1.050 M$ per year (3rd C)

Trade during season:
To Arizona: J. Racine, M. Bradley
To Montreal: R. Vrbata (84)

Line up:
M. Pacioretty (89) - C. McDavid (92) - J. Jagr (87)
R. Vrbata (84) - A. Galchenyuk (88) - A. Radulov (86)
D. Pastrnak (85) - M. Richards (81) - B. Gallagher (86)
T. Kennedy (82) - P. Danault (80) - A. Shaw (83)

Z. Chara (89) - A. Emelin (85)
J. Wisniewski (85) - J. Petry (85)
A. Markov (85) - N. Beaulieu (83)

C. Price (93) - A. Montoya (82)

Bench: T. Mitchell (79), J. De La Rose (79), Z. Redmond (80)

Scores
Forwards 92, Defense 92, Goalies 94
around 2 M$ capspace with 21 players on roster.



End-of-season 2016-2017: 45-33-4, 94 pts, 7th in Eastern.

love EA's dumbass CPU GM's. Looked at the first trade and I facepalmed hard. Finished reading the post and my face was red and I had a broken nose

 

[Deku]

The Islanders traded John Tavares to the Leafs in 2018 leading up to the trade deadline for two 1sts (2018, 2019) and Bracco.

The Leafs then got bumped in the first round, Tavares signed with the Islanders in July, and just now the Islanders traded Tavares to the Leafs AGAIN leading up to the trade deadline in 2019 for Cam Atkinson, Brian Dumoulin, a 1st (2020), and a 7th.

This time JT has a 6 x $8.3M contract to go with him, so I assume he's sticking around Toronto for a while, but still pretty funny/face-palmy.

Lmao. "You'll play for us whether you like it or not!!"

 

[cashinstinct]

2016-17 Montreal Canadiens (NHL17)

End-of-season 2016-2017: 45-33-4, 94 pts, 7th in Eastern.

I did a second run of simulation. I did not trade for 2017 1st overall pick because N. Patrick has bad rating.

Lose 1-4 against Buffalo in 1st round.

Chara, Vrbata and Jagr retirement

Trade
To Florida: Florida 1st rnd 2017 (14th), Montreal 1st rnd 2018
To Montreal: Florida 2018 and 2019 1st rnd

contracts
A. Galchenyuk 6 years 6.7 M$ per year
A. Radulov 2 years 4.4 M$ per year
A. Markov 1 year 3.7 M$
D. Pastrnak 4 years 3.3 M$ per year
J. Wisniewski 2 years 3.15 M$ per year
N. Beaulieu 4 years 2.8 M$ per year
C. Hudon 8 years 1.9 M$ per year (1-way)
S. Matteau 8 years 1.55 M$ per year (1-way)
J. De La Rose 8 years 0.95 M$ per year (1-way)
Z. Redmond 3 years 0.95 M$ per year (1-way)
C. Lindgren 8 years 0.75 M$ per year (1-way)

Free agents
T. Oshie 2 years 7.3 M$ per year

A. Saarela 3 years 0.925 M$ per year (max)
J. Bracco 3 years 0.925 M$ per year (max)
R. Hintz 3 years 0.925 M$ per year (max)
N. Korostelev 3 years 0.925 M$ per year (max)
A. Peters 3 years 0.925 M$ per year (max)
M. Joseph 3 years 0.925 M$ per year (max)
C. Shirley 3 years 0.925 M$ per year (max)
K. Kaarlehto 3 years 0.650 M$ per year
I offer maximum cash on 2-way contracts on players 19-21 years old that have multiple contract offers.

Trade
To Nashville: J. Petry, A. Emelin, 2018 Wsh and Chi 2nd rnd picks
To Montreal: M. Ekholm, R. Ellis, C. Wilson

To Washington: J. Gregoire,. B. Lernout, G. Pateryn, D. Carr
To Montreal: 2022 and 2023 4th rnd picks

To Buffalo: A. Shaw, Mtl 2018 2nd and 4th rnd pick, Wsh 2018 4th, Mtl 2019 3rd rnd
To Montreal: Buf 2018 1st rnd pick, P. Cormier

Line up:
M. Pacioretty (89) - C. McDavid (94) - T. Oshie (88)
D. Pastrnak (85) - A. Galchenyuk (88) - A. Radulov (85)
B. Gallagher (86) - C. Hudon (84) - C. Smith (86)
S. Matteau (84) - M. Richards (81) - M. McCaron (83)

M. Ekholm (85) - R. Ellis (86)
A. Markov (85) - J. Wisniewski (85)
N. Beaulieu (83) - M. Sergachev (81)

C. Price (93) - A. Montoya (80)

Bench: T. Kennedy (82), C. Bracco (82), Z. Redmond (80)

Scores
Forwards 92, Defense 92, Goalies 94

 

[Deku]

They need to make trade value lower for impending UFAs. A 32 year old UFA 1st liner shouldnt have the same value as a 25 year old 1st liner. And ****** teams never want to trade their top guys who will clearly leave in free agency.

 

[scrubadam]

Does anyone know if on PS4 NHL 17 will keep offering updated rosters? Its on sale on PSN and was thinking of picking it up. Just wondering if they will continue to update the roster so I can have the correct opening day roster or is that only going to be in NHL 18?

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Does anyone know if on PS4 NHL 17 will keep offering updated rosters? Its on sale on PSN and was thinking of picking it up. Just wondering if they will continue to update the roster so I can have the correct opening day roster or is that only going to be in NHL 18?

haven't played in a while, but they don't update rosters after a certain point. I don't remember them ever doing a free agency roster update.