Post-Game Talk: Bart on the ice for the final minute..... Avs win in the final minute

[Sea Bass Neely]

Did Reilly Smith play today? Serious question.

Don't remember hearing his name once.

He had an assist but didn't have his best game of the young season. Still better than several B's forwards, but that is not saying very much.

 

[Sea Bass Neely]

Is this the overreaction thread?

Anyways, I think things will be fine, but there is too much young blood for this to be the same team last year. We will probably still make the playoffs, but it's going to be ugly.

The good news, we draft better next year. I would tell PC to hold onto his draft picks unless there is a sign we could win this year.

Whoa i just totally agreed with your post, 100%

 

[Lepardi]

NESN just showed the replay and Bartkowski completely left his side of the net and marked the wrong man. Left Briere wide open on the door step.

Could you tell me who Bergeron was marking? He sure wasn't marking "the wrong man", cause he wasn't marking anybody. There were three Bruins playing against the two Avs players on the blue line. That means there's three Avs and two Bruins players closer to the net. Which means an Avs player is bound to be open there, no matter how the D-men play it.

 

[Sea Bass Neely]

Could you tell me who Bergeron was covering? There were two Bruins D-men playing against three Avs players. That means they can't have everyone covered. They need the forwards to help.

Shhhh... it's Bart's responsibility to cover all of them. Seidenberg was covering the all-important gap between Briere and Johnson in case the puck [somehow] came back to the corner with less than 3 seconds remaining in the game. Bart covered Tanguay in the slot while everyone else seemingly was just waiting for the horn to sound and OT to begin, yet he is the goat everyone wants to single out.

I love this place

 

[GloveSave1]

Putting everything else aside, a little weak wrist shot from the blueline should never get anywhere near the net there.

That's gotta be blocked high.

Ugg, I'm sick of seeing weak shots bouncing of someone and going to the side...tap in...

We lost a recent Cup with that crap.

Block more shots high, not down low.

Compeate level. Get in the way. Will it.

Says a lot about the current state. Head and heart out of it.

 

[Lepardi]

I hope not, but the Bruins could be 5 games under 500 by Friday morning....

Which Friday are we talking about? According to the Bruins website they've only got two games left before Friday this week. I can't see how they could lose three games out of two.

 

[GloveSave1]

I hate Bart as much as anyone...but there's so many people that are playing like crap right now, seems kinda silly to pick one.

 

[GloveSave1]

Which Friday are we talking about? According to the Bruins website they've only got two games left before Friday this week. I can't see how they could lose three games out of two.

If there's any team that could find a way.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Which Friday are we talking about? According to the Bruins website they've only got two games left before Friday this week. I can't see how they could lose three games out of two.

Looking at this squad so far, if any team could do the impossible, it's them.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

If there's any team that could find a way.

jinx

 

[HumBucker]

The Bruins are the only team that loses with around .3 seconds left. Not a first around here.

This team is not with it. Not only constantly failing to get it out of the zone, which has been a problem for years, but missing on simple passes at center ice - messing up breaks and turning it over.

There was some improvement today...but I can't take any positive mojo away with that finish.

I guess I always pray for OT and my point...but I was really counting down the seconds...this team is just in a place where "effing things up" is what they do. Just waiting for it.

I'd be really concerned...but they are just so off and out of it, that I can't get a long term read...I mean, they are at their worst...

I think the trade of Boychuk might have taken the wind out of the team.

You seem to be suggesting that this is an ongoing problem from last season, and then surmise a post-Boychuk malaise. Doesn't compute, unless I'm reading you wrong.

If that's the theory, I don't buy it. And even if it is, I'm sure they'll get over it.

 

[GloveSave1]

You seem to be suggesting that this is an ongoing problem from last season, and then surmise a post-Boychuk malaise. Doesn't compute, unless I'm reading you wrong.

If that's the theory, I don't buy it. And even if it is, I'm sure they'll get over it.

I'm just talking about losing within the final second, I believe it was to the Pens, last season...and that, historically, I don't remember the Bruins on the right side of that much.

Maybe it's a recurring problem, or we're just unlucky, I couldn't say. But Bolland's goal in the Finals was a similar kick to the side in front. As I said, block more shots high. That wrister should have never gotten close.

Yes, I'd guess the timing of the Boychuk trade hurt a bit. A contributing factor.

Yes, they will get better. This is pretty bad. Lot's of room to go up, little to go down.

 

[OldFESeides]

I'm just talking about losing within the final second, I believe it was to the Pens, last season...and that, historically, I don't remember the Bruins on the right side of that much.

Maybe it's a recurring problem, or we're just unlucky, I couldn't say. But Bolland's goal in the Finals was a similar kick to the side in front. As I said, block more shots high. That wrister should have never gotten close.

Yes, I'd guess the timing of the Boychuk trade hurt a bit. A contributing factor.

Yes, they will get better. This is pretty bad. Lot's of room to go up, little to go down.

Ummm I think you have this backwards. Yes we've lost a handful of games that way. Last year though I remember DK with a tip in against San Jose with .8 left and something similar with a Chara Bomb from the point against the Pens with seconds left.....I think it was the Orpik/Thornton game.

I do agree on blocking shots high, I think we still need to figure out our D pairings. Despite Bart, Krug has looked rough the past few outings. He has shots on net, but a lot of trouble keeping it inside the blue line.

 

[GloveSave1]

Ummm I think you have this backwards. Yes we've lost a handful of games that way. Last year though I remember DK with a tip in against San Jose with .8 left and something similar with a Chara Bomb from the point against the Pens with seconds left.....I think it was the Orpik/Thornton game.

I do agree on blocking shots high, I think we still need to figure out our D pairings. Despite Bart, Krug has looked rough the past few outings. He has shots on net, but a lot of trouble keeping it inside the blue line.

The .8 I will give you. Must have missed that game. Seconds left is another topic.

Crosby was the Pens game I was thinking of...I hate that guy...

 

[ashnathan]

The .8 I will give you. Must have missed that game. Seconds left is another topic.

Crosby was the Pens game I was thinking of...I hate that guy...

2013 playoffs (i think)

 

[GloveSave1]

2013 playoffs (i think)

.3 seconds left.

November 2013.

http://cityofchampionssports.com/20...ast-second-goal-bruins-top-penguins-overtime/

 

[rickjames]

Almost got the noose out yesterday...

 

[22Brad Park]

Milan Lucic is a stiff.Sick of his act.4 goals in 4 games.This is a forward problem not defence.

 

[Kate08]

Yep, but ya ain`t allowed to say that here mister

Sure you are. I absolutely hate when people say this.

Bergeron made a mistake. A rare mistake, but everyone makes them...even him. His tend to get pointed out and forgiven rather quickly because they are rare, while others get piled on when they do something wrong because they aren't as consistent.

Patrice Bergeron is our best all around player. When he ****s up, it's more easily forgiven because of that, and because he realistically makes what amounts to a handful of costly mistakes throughout the course of a season.

He's not above criticism, he's forgiven more easily...and rightfully so, IMO. There's a huge difference.

 

[ODAAT]

bart honestly played pretty good today besides that last shift.

maybe we trade for a top 6 foward earlier than expected if we continue to struggle but i expect the bruins to turn it around and go on a big winning streak very soon

sure, know any teams who are willing to trade one of those a week into the season?? And I`ll ask another question, what`s the price for a top 6 forward??

 

[ODAAT]

And the current problems aren't a coaching problem.

Julien isn't telling them to skate around and aim for the logo or pass when they should shoot.

This is a "team can't score" with a huge dose of "cap mismanagement" problem. Chia gambled last year and lost and now the team is paying for it.

I don't think this team makes the playoffs without a legit RW who is top 6 ready and/or a giant gaping hole in the defense. If Chia addresses the lack of RW the defense may be able to muddle through but the Boychuk trade and loss of Iginla have made this decidedly worse.

Not sure if it`s cap mismanagement by going all in as it appeared the B`s did last year. Anyone not seeing bodies being forced out for cap reasons hasn`t been following things too well. Most angry that body isn`t or wasn`t Kelly but at the same time, would we not still be having the same argument or discussion??

The return wasn`t what they should have received kind of thing etc...

4th line without the calming effect that Soupy brings will help if it ever happens but still, this has NOTHING to do with the D being bad, nothing to do with the return from the Boychuk trade being unacceptable to fans, this has everything to do with a team who was in the top 3 of scoring last year posting exactly 4 goals in their first 4 games.

The D has been solid, I sure didn`t like the coverage the forwards, most specifically Bergy neglected which would have allowed Bart to take the man low yesterday rather than give the guy in the slot an uncontested shot

 

[Altamira]

Could you tell me who Bergeron was marking? He sure wasn't marking "the wrong man", cause he wasn't marking anybody. There were three Bruins playing against the two Avs players on the blue line. That means there's three Avs and two Bruins players closer to the net. Which means an Avs player is bound to be open there, no matter how the D-men play it.

Unfortunately they played it in the worst way possible. I'm trying to wrap my mind around how if Bergeron or Siedenberg are out of position it makes it OK for Bartkowski to leave Briere wide open. If he covered Briere and the player in the high slot scored somehow I would put zero blame on Bartkowski, it would be on the forwards.

 

[ODAAT]

Sure you are. I absolutely hate when people say this.

Bergeron made a mistake. A rare mistake, but everyone makes them...even him. His tend to get pointed out and forgiven rather quickly because they are rare, while others get piled on when they do something wrong because they aren't as consistent.

Patrice Bergeron is our best all around player. When he ****s up, it's more easily forgiven because of that, and because he realistically makes what amounts to a handful of costly mistakes throughout the course of a season.

He's not above criticism, he's forgiven more easily...and rightfully so, IMO. There's a huge difference.

I agree, but there are many who have clearly, based on their posts, refuse to acknowledge a missed coverage by Bergy, and would rather, just pile on Bart, the easy target

 

[ODAAT]

Unfortunately they played it in the worst way possible. I'm trying to wrap my mind around how if Bergeron or Siedenberg are out of position it makes it OK for Bartkowski to leave Briere wide open. If he covered Briere and the player in the high slot scored somehow I would put zero blame on Bartkowski, it would be on the forwards.

and if the man in the slot buried it, I`d still wager more than a few would hammer Bart for not being proactive enough to take away the shooting lane

 

[Kate08]

I agree, but there are many who have clearly, based on their posts, refuse to acknowledge a missed coverage by Bergy, and would rather, just pile on Bart, the easy target

Would you say it's a fair statement that when it comes to the composition of this team, Bart is a greater concern than Bergeron?

I really scrolled through a lot of the thread but I did see people acknowledging both, skewed towards Bart sure, but haven't seen anyone say that Bergeron was innocent. Same with Seids, another one that typically "gets a pass".

Bart and his place on this team is a concern. Seids and his role is of more concern than Bergeron and his. Doesn't absolve Bergeron of his error, but what's the point of hammering a guy that rarely makes a mistake? Point it out, say it sucks, and move on to larger areas of worry.

To be expected, if you ask me.