Post-Game Talk: Bart on the ice for the final minute..... Avs win in the final minute

[daleand]

With the Bruins attention to protecting their end, when an opportunity to attack quickly comes up, we never seem to create a one-on-one or two-on-one because our forwards are too deep in our end. I know Claude likes to attack as a 5 man unit but by the time we get all our players into the attacking zone, all the defensive players are in position and we turn the puck over countless times without a scoring opportunity. How about letting a forward sneak behind their D for a stretch pass for a change. The other teams know we would never try this so are comfortable in our zone. If we allowed a rover occasionally we might get one of their D trapped and actually create a scoring chance. Because I watched the game with Av's commentators I'm not sure who our players two were but all 5 Colorado players had backchecked and we went in on a 2-on-5 and turned the puck over at their blue line. We need an odd man opportunity in the other end for a change if we hope to score. Montreal does this constantly to us, you would think the coaches would get clued in and try what works against us. We do have some speedy players they just get moving too late.

 

[Bread and Circuses]

With the Bruins attention to protecting their end, when an opportunity to attack quickly comes up, we never seem to create a one-on-one or two-on-one because our forwards are too deep in our end. I know Claude likes to attack as a 5 man unit but by the time we get all our players into the attacking zone, all the defensive players are in position and we turn the puck over countless times without a scoring opportunity. How about letting a forward sneak behind their D for a stretch pass for a change. The other teams know we would never try this so are comfortable in our zone. If we allowed a rover occasionally we might get one of their D trapped and actually create a scoring chance. Because I watched the game with Av's commentators I'm not sure who our players two were but all 5 Colorado players had backchecked and we went in on a 2-on-5 and turned the puck over at their blue line. We need an odd man opportunity in the other end for a change if we hope to score. Montreal does this constantly to us, you would think the coaches would get clued in and try what works against us. We do have some speedy players they just get moving too late.

You make a valid point but I don't think Clode can comprehend that alteration to the system......he would probably have a stroke.

I will always listen what a member who posts less than once a year on average has to say because I figure it must be worth reading.

I am not being sarcastic in any way either.

 

[BadBruins]

Cunningham >> Caron.

I wish they'd make that plug earn his way back to the NHL. No more free passes for being a former 1st round pick. At least Cunningham and Robins got on the body.

That said, these depth guys and rookies underperforming is not the reason this team is 1-3. That's all on the top half of the roster. Coaching staff and management also deserve their share of criticism.

Soderberg only played 14:43. Bergeron 15:41. They've been the two most consistently involved forwards though four games. Was kind of hoping to see Soderberg-Krejci-Eriksson for in the 3rd with the obvious lack of 5 on 5 scoring and Lucic sucking balls.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

With the Bruins attention to protecting their end, when an opportunity to attack quickly comes up, we never seem to create a one-on-one or two-on-one because our forwards are too deep in our end. I know Claude likes to attack as a 5 man unit but by the time we get all our players into the attacking zone, all the defensive players are in position and we turn the puck over countless times without a scoring opportunity. How about letting a forward sneak behind their D for a stretch pass for a change. The other teams know we would never try this so are comfortable in our zone. If we allowed a rover occasionally we might get one of their D trapped and actually create a scoring chance. Because I watched the game with Av's commentators I'm not sure who our players two were but all 5 Colorado players had backchecked and we went in on a 2-on-5 and turned the puck over at their blue line. We need an odd man opportunity in the other end for a change if we hope to score. Montreal does this constantly to us, you would think the coaches would get clued in and try what works against us. We do have some speedy players they just get moving too late.

Forget it man, Claude will stick to his good ol' slow-paced lane hockey from the 50's.

 

[reffree]

This is the simple truth.

No it's not. If one guy miss his assignement it goes domino on everybody after. If Bart keep Brière it open Tanguay who is in a position to score as much as Brière and looking at where the puck his at, the probability the puck goes to Tanguay is higher than the puck going down low to Brière.

Bart was left with two player to cover in the house, he needed to choose one or both would have been open. He did choose to go with the odds, it didn't paid off. It happen, but he was put in a bad situation by Bergy who is primary at fault.

 

[What The Puck]

Is this the overreaction thread?

Anyways, I think things will be fine, but there is too much young blood for this to be the same team last year. We will probably still make the playoffs, but it's going to be ugly.

The good news, we draft better next year. I would tell PC to hold onto his draft picks unless there is a sign we could win this year.

 

[bruinmann77]

Bruins need to find some ofense in the near future

 

[GloveSave1]

The Bruins are the only team that loses with around .3 seconds left. Not a first around here.

This team is not with it. Not only constantly failing to get it out of the zone, which has been a problem for years, but missing on simple passes at center ice - messing up breaks and turning it over.

There was some improvement today...but I can't take any positive mojo away with that finish.

I guess I always pray for OT and my point...but I was really counting down the seconds...this team is just in a place where "effing things up" is what they do. Just waiting for it.

I'd be really concerned...but they are just so off and out of it, that I can't get a long term read...I mean, they are at their worst...

I think the trade of Boychuk might have taken the wind out of the team.

 

[Fossy21]

Is this the overreaction thread?

Anyways, I think things will be fine, but there is too much young blood for this to be the same team last year. We will probably still make the playoffs, but it's going to be ugly.

The good news, we draft better next year. I would tell PC to hold onto his draft picks unless there is a sign we could win this year.

****, you made me agree with a post of yours.

 

[trenton1]

If Bergeron makes a mistake the Bruins are in trouble because there is so much mediocrity behind him. Bartkowski won't be bailing anyone out. Lowest man should always be covered anyway, much tougher to score from dots vs. top of the crease. They all made mistakes but the biggest one is usually the one made nearest the net.

This team is pretty flawed even if they do gel--which we should give them time to do. I don't like what Chiarelli did with Boychuk at all and the offense sucks.

 

[JOKER 192]

Is this the overreaction thread?

Anyways, I think things will be fine, but there is too much young blood for this to be the same team last year. We will probably still make the playoffs, but it's going to be ugly.

The good news, we draft better next year. I would tell PC to hold onto his draft picks unless there is a sign we could win this year.

Exactly,if we're gonna trade those picks to be an also ran, might as well hold on to them.

 

[ChargersRookie]

I think the Bruins need to see the move Callahan pulled on PK Subban tonight and everything will be alright.

 

[member 96824]

Did Reilly Smith play today? Serious question.

Don't remember hearing his name once.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

aside from the outcome and lack of goals I thought the team played a good game overall. Probably their most solid game of the 3 losses.

 

[bruinmann77]

I am curious why was an offensive defenseman out there

 

[unifiedtheory]

I'm going to beat the Christmas rush and panic now.

 

[bb_fan]

aside from the outcome and lack of goals I thought the team played a good game overall. Probably their most solid game of the 3 losses.

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[Hali33]

aside from the outcome and lack of goals I thought the team played a good game overall. Probably their most solid game of the 3 losses.

It's true, if you get rid of all the stuff we did wrong it was a great game

 

[mislysBB]

Our problem is not our goalies (god forbid if they both end up being burned out) but this team has to start scoring, and NOT allow odd man rushes to develop. Today's game wasn't terrible, but there are things that still clearly need to be improved upon.
I'm trying to look at the positive; the year we won the cup, we had a very up and down year. Gotta think that this year is going to be the same way....maybe?

 

[KnightofBoston]

Our problem is not our goalies (god forbid if they both end up being burned out) but this team has to start scoring, and NOT allow odd man rushes to develop. Today's game wasn't terrible, but there are things that still clearly need to be improved upon.
I'm trying to look at the positive; the year we won the cup, we had a very up and down year. Gotta think that this year is going to be the same way....maybe?

Idk it wasn't that up and down, we started very well and Thomas was great all year. This feels more like 09-10

 

[bb_fan]

Bart sucks so much countless times brick would say Bart with a bad pass and the bruins get away with one

also gotta add, this thread title sucks.

just encourages more unwarranted piling on of a player.

 

[BadBruins]

Why is it that forwards who come up from Providence look like deer in the headlights? At the same time most defenseman seem to be capable of filling in seamlessly.... Typically it's the other way around.

 

[Sea Bass Neely]

NESN just showed the replay and Bartkowski completely left his side of the net and marked the wrong man. Left Briere wide open on the door step. This kid straight up sucks.

Bart deserves some blame but it's awfully convenient and single-minded to place it all on him. If you saw the replay you should already know this-- regardless of how much you hate the kid.

Perhaps if one of the forwards had covered Tanguay (or even been within a few feet from him) as he parked himself in the slot, Bart would've had a much better of a chance of seeing Briere quietly sneak his way from behind the net to Sveddy's crease at the last second. At least Bart was covering somebody... Seidenberg and the forwards were apparently just waiting for the OT period to begin.

As a side note; Tanguay (#40) was in almost the exact same spot that Krejci was in last year when he tipped McQuaid's shot past Antti Niemi for a buzzer-beating GWG with exactly 0.08 seconds left in regulation to beat the Sharks at the Garden last season. Again, at least Bart was doing something useful in tying up Tanguay's stick. The same cannot be said for his veteran partner, who was snoozing between two uncovered opponents.

Allowing an opponent to comfortably hang around the slot untouched -- right between the two middle-ice hash marks in the D-zone -- is essentially just as bad/dangerous as leaving them near a post beside your goaltender. One could even argue that at least an alert goalie has the ability to actively use his stick in preventing a pass or shot-pass from reaching the open man sitting on top of him. In any case, there ARE ways in which a goalie can disrupt a potential scoring chance from the crease area. But not even Tim Thomas in 2011 form can do very much to take a man left open in the slot out of the play himself.

The funny part is how Seids will get a pass here despite his literally WATCHING Briere slide to the front of the net while coasting in the waning seconds of the game. Seids was pretty much directly facing Briere when the latter made his move, yet there was barely the slightest reaction/urgency out of #44 even though it was clear his partner was covering Tanguay in the slot and did not see Briere. Very discouraging.

It's that much more unfortunate because on the whole Seids looked pretty good and was IMO more effective in the Avs game than he's looked in the previous games and most of preseason. Given the ACL tear last season i'm being patient, especially since he is a proven NHL D-man, but nonetheless i am more disappointed in Denny than i am in Bart when it comes to that one goal. Effort matters to the final 0.001 second.

Yep, your whipping boy could've done more. And the forwards could've managed a bit more offense too. As terrible an ending as this game had, i thought the team looked better than they have as a unit so far this season and ultimately put together a credible effort against a talented Western team. Still plenty of blame to go around, and not just on Bart. Give it a rest.

 

[ksp1957]

It's true, if you get rid of all the stuff we did wrong it was a great game

So, other than the gunshot, how was the play Mrs Lincoln ?

I got to watch this game unfortunately. I don't know which game Kelly, Lucic and Chara were playing. I just wish it was the game against the Avs. It's too easy to blame Barfkowski for the loss. I guess he picked a player to defense against. Too bad it was the wrong one.

 

[Hali33]

So, other than the gunshot, how was the play Mrs Lincoln ?