ASP eliminated from SHL playoffs. Will be interesting to see how quick he comes over.
Axel Sandin Pellikka Signs Three Year Entry Level Contract
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Holl should never ever get a call up. Legason should have been playing all these games over him, and the team would be in a closer spot to making playoffs. I actually like these pairs:
Ed-Seider
Gavrikov-ASP
Chiarot-Johansson (this pair was great last night)
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Waive Gus while we’re at it and sign a real defenseman.
Sign Grzelcyk and/or Dante Fabbro.
Grzelcyk - Seider
Edvinsson - Johansson
Chiarot - ASP/Fabbro
Gus and Holl in the AHL.
I think that gives the team depth that’s not blocking youth and Seider finally has someone that can move the puck as a partner. Fabbro is a solid 4/5 guy that moves decently and plays the body. Both should come in around 9 mil combined, and moving one or both would be easy.
I like targeting Fabbro. Wish he was a little bigger, but oh well. I'd still be tempted to put Albert with Mo next year, or seeing if he or Chia can be the LD on the second pairing allowing Ed-Mo to be our first pairing all year.
Ed-Mo
Albert-ASP
Chia-Fabbro
I feel like we could give that second pairing some cover with extra OZ starts and playing with the 2nd and 3rd forward lines.
We need to give ASP a spot, not "earn" it only when cap wise it makes sense..
I'd sign/trade for one legit NHLer on the blueline only and then look to improve our top 6
X-Seider
Edvinsson-ASP
Johansson-Chariot
Gus
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Ok, but we also need another good RD, so play Johansson with Seider. Still sign Fabbro.
AlJo - Seider
Edvinsson - ASP
Chiarot - Fabbro
It’s insurance against ASP not managing the NHL well. I think the kid is about as ready as he’s going to get but you never know.
RedHawkDown
still trying to trust the yzerplan
Provorov. And I don’t think we need insurance for asp. Insurance is how we have ended up with all this dead weight.
100%... play him
His insurance is Seider and Edvinsson...if they're not good enough to insulate him then the rebuild is not on track whatsoever...
cjm502
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ASP is definitely more of an offensive guy, but I think people will be impressed with his overall game. That's not to say I don't expect some occasional growing pains once he's in the NHL, but for the most part I don't think he will need to be sheltered or need a strong defensive partner to cover for him. Hes a very cerebral player that could flourish with other highly cerebral players and more structure.
Oddbob
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So if ASP isn't good enough defensively, you want one of Mo or Ed babysitting him? We have already seen that with Mo babysitting Chiarot which only lessens our blueline. If ASP isn't good enough having him on the team won't make any of us any happier about how the Wings are doing. We will know where he stands after he actually plays in the pre season games, as the really good and ready players force their ways on, just as Mo and Ray did. If he doesn't force his way, then he should definitely start in GR.
Our blueline goal, cannot be this much youth all at once. Ed and AlJo will only be in their 2nd full seasons and if ASP makes it, that is 3 lower experience guys, plus still having Craprot which to me is a blueline not helping us make the playoffs. To me Aljo looks like he is what he is, with limited room to be better, and I think he is really a 5th-6th guy. I highly doubt ASP is ready to be a top 4 guy next year and Chiarot needs to badly be gone (I wish) but definitely no higher than 3rd pair.
If Holl is on the team even with injuries I will cry. I hope they just buy him out to be done with him.
If Steve's goal is not adding any good defenceman to our blueline either through trade or signing it will be a terrible frustrating offseason. Patience time has to be nearing its end.
Henkka
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Think the plan is to upgrade the defence from UFA market, to push Chiarot to lesser role 2nd/3rd pair. That would really help us. Chiarot is just fine against lesser competition, but not a 1st pair level of guy.
And for Pellikka, I think a big role at Griffins would do great things for him. Captain Jonathan Pudas still was the 1st PP QB for Skellefteå, Pellikka didn't have that main role. He should get that for one full season at GR, and then hopefully jump to NHL.
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Lane Hutson is 21, but was 20 for most of the season. I seriously hope we don't do this over ripening nonsense with Sandin-Pelikka. When Yzerman fired Lalonde, he made it clear he expects the team to compete for playoff spots. Putting ASP in Grand Rapids would be really bad sign given the state of our defense. The only way I could see sending him down would be if he really struggled, but he's been playing against men in a very competitive league and thriving.
LongTimeDRWF
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SY had always mentioned that if some of the marquee prospects didn't cut it at top 9 F or top 4 D the plan is to ensure they get plenty of meaning minutes until they are ready for it, so unless ASP has a realgud showing in the AHL playoff run and an awesome training camp, he will be in GR for next season, or at least until they deem he is ready.
Even if he is ready, SY I suspect still will plan around him being at GR for the year (Maybe Tuo or Holl stays on the wings opening day), but make or leave space (like Kasper this year) for him, or any of the yutes showing good.
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This lineup is desperate for skill, not sure why anyone would expect Sandin-Pelikka in Grand Rapids next year. It was one thing to do that when you had a team that was a favorite to win a Cup, we really need to take that next step and make the playoffs. That becomes much easier if ASP is a Quinn Hughes, Erik Karlsson, Lane Hutson type of offensive threat.
Thats not exactly what I meant ..
I'm not suggesting Mo or Ed need to babysit ASP ( wouldn't even pair him with seider) but would consider him with Ed but even thats not written in stone..
My comment regarding "insulating" him was that they, Seider and Ed, should be good enough to play the tougher minutes and recieve the tougher assignments and if not, that's bad..that would then free up ASP to do what he does best with more of a leash.
I don't think ASP needs to go to GR just because..while I do agree the AHL is good overall and does benefit some players, I feel at this point in our rebuild the club can and should be able to handle having a dynamic high skilled guy learn on the job, including making mistakes..
Now if he is so far over his head then send him down to that i take no issue but the plan should be to have him here on opening day..I do support SYs overall conservative approach to our rebuild but also acknowledge its okay to take some risks as well from time to time
All of this however is based solely on SY successfully upgrading our top pair this summer via free agency or trade..failing to do so will again leave the team weak on the back end and on the outside looking in come April 2026..
Chariot I feel is here longterm(I can see him be resigned) as having that vet dman presence in the 6th/7th role is desired by this mgmt group..
Holl has negative value who will be here till his contract runs out...waive him, he'll clear, send him to GR as the vet down there who can be recalled if necessary.. A buyout on him in my opinion makes no sense.
Henkka
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I don't think it's anyhow overripening. But also, he could get that 1D role already at this season and have a deep playoff run.
Maybe that's enough and next season he is at NHL.
LongTimeDRWF
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I agree, but knowing the SY MO, ASP will have to show he is ready and the brass agrees, then they will make space or leave it open for him even he if starts the season in GR, just like Kasper this season.
Todd will make his team out of camp, and everyone will get a shot, then up to SY to make the adjustments, there may even be a few surprises this summer yet as T-Mc will have a big enough sample to know who he wants to keep out of the current group. But Petes got part of it right, there will be a lot of yutes playing next year.
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I was hopping ASP with Wings next season, but I have to agree with you about season in GR, maybe call for 5-8 games or so. Yzerman needs to bring veteran defansman, that still good to fix this defence , should of done it 3 seasons ago.
Redwing66
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Absolutely no need at all to waste ASP in GR for a season. Either go into full blown tank mode to get serious draft talent or don't - sitting on talent and watching Holl and Petry every night is pathetic.
No the idea partner for asp is simon edvinsson. Big, can skate, good hockey iq, long reach. That's definitely the most likely and then they just need to find someone to play with seider.
lilidk
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Looking forward Ed and Mo should be our first pair , then your have ASP and some one else
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ASP > Holl, Petry, Gustafsson, AJo, Lagesson
4 in the group won't be back. They will add one via free agency. He will be on the Wings roster.
4 in the group won't be back. They will add one via free agency. He will be on the Wings roster.
