Axel Sandin Pellikka Signs Three Year Entry Level Contract

[Chris Langlois]

He's had plenty of defensive struggles though.

Where? Anytime I watch him play he holds his own defensively and I've watched quite a few of his games.

 

[norrisnick]

He's had plenty of defensive struggles though.

That's obviously not preventing anyone from playing defense for the Wings...

 

[Run the Jewels]

Where? Anytime I watch him play he holds his own defensively and I've watched quite a few of his games.

Pretty sure the poster you are replying to is Ken Holland's burner account.

 

[Reddwit]

He's had plenty of defensive struggles though.

Can you elaborate? He’s a 20 year old defenseman who played a big role on a pro team, so he’s going to make mistakes, but is there something you’ve seen that he routinely struggles with defensively? I’ve always found him surprisingly stable and rugged (for his size) on defense, but my full game viewings have mostly been limited to the WJC.

Im actually kind of annoyed that they aren’t giving ASP the last 2-3 games with the Wings. These games mean nothing. It would give him a little taste of the NHL under low pressure circumstances so he can see where his game needs to be. He can go to GR after that. I just don’t see a drawback taking that route.

 

[DoMakc]

Pretty sure the poster you are replying to is Ken Holland's burner account.

No, he is just the guy, whose clips you usually post in this thread for circle jerk purposes. It is safe to say that if somebody saw a lot of ASP, it’s him not you

 

[Ulysses31]

Given DRw track record developing D i dont expect him to start on the wings useless he has a great camp

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Think the plan is to upgrade the defence from UFA market, to push Chiarot to lesser role 2nd/3rd pair. That would really help us. Chiarot is just fine against lesser competition, but not a 1st pair level of guy.

And for Pellikka, I think a big role at Griffins would do great things for him. Captain Jonathan Pudas still was the 1st PP QB for Skellefteå, Pellikka didn't have that main role. He should get that for one full season at GR, and then hopefully jump to NHL.

ASP rarely plays PPQB. He’s in the Ovechkin spot, sometimes slightly higher. Anyone that thinks he’s PPQB has probably rarely seen him play.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Looking forward Ed and Mo should be our first pair , then your have ASP and some one else

Better splitting Ed and Mo up and having one of them on the ice for 50 mins a night. Pairing them together and having both of them off the ice for 35 mins a night isn’t their best use. They can each hold their own. Give them a partner (AlJo for Ed) and let them cook. All we need is a LHD partner for Mo. Let ASP play 3rd pairing and 1PP for 18 mins a night.

 

[Oddbob]

Better splitting Ed and Mo up and having one of them on the ice for 50 mins a night. Pairing them together and having both of them off the ice for 35 mins a night isn’t their best use. They can each hold their own. Give them a partner (AlJo for Ed) and let them cook. All we need is a LHD partner for Mo. Let ASP play 3rd pairing and 1PP for 18 mins a night.

I disagree. Colorado plays their 2 best together all the time, and I think a number of teams do this. Not comparing Mo to Cale, just that having 25 minutes a night of your two best can easily be good, you just need a competent second pair to play 20-22 a night and then a 3rd pair that isn't a train wreck which we don't have right now.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

ASP rarely plays PPQB. He’s in the Ovechkin spot, sometimes slightly higher. Anyone that thinks he’s PPQB has probably rarely seen him play.

Would the Wings ice two defensemen on the powerplay if this is the case?

 

[lilidk]

Better splitting Ed and Mo up and having one of them on the ice for 50 mins a night. Pairing them together and having both of them off the ice for 35 mins a night isn’t their best use. They can each hold their own. Give them a partner (AlJo for Ed) and let them cook. All we need is a LHD partner for Mo. Let ASP play 3rd pairing and 1PP for 18 mins a night.

if we are talking about next season, sure, but 3-4 years from now that D will be very expensive. You want Seider to have someone much better than Chiarot, you have to pay, both Ed and ASP will be pricey also

 

[Pavels Dog]

Where? Anytime I watch him play he holds his own defensively and I've watched quite a few of his games.

Can you elaborate? He’s a 20 year old defenseman who played a big role on a pro team, so he’s going to make mistakes, but is there something you’ve seen that he routinely struggles with defensively? I’ve always found him surprisingly stable and rugged (for his size) on defense, but my full game viewings have mostly been limited to the WJC.

Mostly what you'd expect from a young guy against pro players. He's on the smaller side and sometimes gets outbattled. He's not a blazing fast skater so occasionally gets burned. Some slightly naive plays with the puck that gets him into trouble.
Nothing concerning in the big picture, just something to keep in mind if we want him on the NHL roster at all costs.

Pretty sure the poster you are replying to is Ken Holland's burner account.

A small word of caution on an otherwise exceptional prospect shouldn't be cause for this.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

if we are talking about next season, sure, but 3-4 years from now that D will be very expensive. You want Seider to have someone much better than Chiarot, you have to pay, both Ed and ASP will be pricey also

Nobody thinks Chiarot is Mo’s partner in 3-4 years, not even his wife.

 

[lilidk]

Nobody thinks Chiarot is Mo’s partner in 3-4 years, not even his wife.

I was talking about Seider and Ed on the same line , then ASP with big stay home physical defansman and that is I think our top 4 should look like in 3-4 years.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

I was talking about Seider and Ed on the same line , then ASP with big stay home physical defansman and that is I think our top 4 should look like in 3-4 years.

Yeah I disagree.

XXX - Seider
Ed - AlJo
XXX - ASP

Seider 25 mins a night (PP/PK)
Ed 25 (PP/PK)
XXX1 20 (PK)
AlJo 20 (PK)
ASP 18 (PP)
XXX 12

Put your aces in their places. ASP biggest value is PP1. Maximize his ice time there.

 

[lilidk]

Yeah I disagree.

XXX - Seider
Ed - AlJo
XXX - ASP

Seider 25 mins a night (PP/PK)
Ed 25 (PP/PK)
XXX1 20 (PK)
AlJo 20 (PK)
ASP 18 (PP)
XXX 12

Put your aces in their places. ASP biggest value is PP1. Maximize his ice time there.

Could be that . But I believe ASP will be smartest guy on ice when he joins the team and keep him on the third pair is not the best . It's all depends on progress our entire d.

 

[Chris Langlois]

Could be that . But I believe ASP will be smartest guy on ice when he joins the team and keep him on the third pair is not the best . It's all depends on progress our entire d.

I agree. Pair him with Ed. Let them have the Swedish connection. Then in key moments to hold leads put simon and mo together.

 

[Ulysses31]

wonder how aljo would do with seider

 

[ItWasJustified]

ASP rarely plays PPQB. He’s in the Ovechkin spot, sometimes slightly higher. Anyone that thinks he’s PPQB has probably rarely seen him play.

He's rarely had any time in the Ovie spot this season. He's had much more time walking the blue line.

 

[cjm502]

wonder how aljo would do with seider

1a.) AlJo-Seider
1b.) Ed-ASP
3.) Chiarot-Not Holl

Both top pairings can play 22-23 minutes a night. AlJo-Seider would probably have more defensive responsibilities and dzone starts. Ed-ASP would absolutely cook offensively. Steady play out of Chiarot and Not Holl would be huge. Maybe Buium-AnJo could end up being a good 3rd pairing in 2 years.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

 

[lilidk]

Are they already in NA ?

 

[HisNoodliness]

He's rarely had any time in the Ovie spot this season. He's had much more time walking the blue line.

That's what I thought too, but hadn't watched enough to contradict someone. Sure he frequently would walk around a guy from the blueline into the high slot or even into the Ovi office to take a shot. I felt like he was mostly at the blueline and cutting down rather than being stationed at the halfwall/circle.

1a.) AlJo-Seider
1b.) Ed-ASP
3.) Chiarot-Not Holl

Both top pairings can play 22-23 minutes a night. AlJo-Seider would probably have more defensive responsibilities and dzone starts. Ed-ASP would absolutely cook offensively. Steady play out of Chiarot and Not Holl would be huge. Maybe Buium-AnJo could end up being a good 3rd pairing in 2 years.

wonder how aljo would do with seider

I do think it would be ideal if ASP can turn into a strong partner for Mo. I just worry about him trying to survive that workload. We task Seider with really tough minutes. And when you need a change of pace you end up running Ed-Seider, AlJo-ASP. Ed and Seider should end up being an absoluetely dominant pairing as they mature. Then AlJo-ASP is perhaps a little small, but fast and capable at moving the puck. Perhaps this setup works better at home where you get last change.

It's a little wild, but I also could see ASP-Seider and Ed-AlJo working. With ASP's shot and hands, he's precisely the kind of D that benefits from being on his off side for shooting purposes. We know that AlJo is good at playing his off side. Run a lefty pair and a righty pair. Make Babcock roll over in his grave

 

[SCD]

Yzerman's history as a GM, both NHL and national teams, is he typically has a L/R shooting defensive pairing. Although AlJo played his off-wing much of the season, that was likely by necessity, not by design.

Don't expect ASP to play with Seider. Edvinsson is more likely to be paired with ASP.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Yzerman's history as a GM, both NHL and national teams, is he typically has a L/R shooting defensive pairing. Although AlJo played his off-wing much of the season, that was likely by necessity, not by design.

Don't expect ASP to play with Seider. Edvinsson is more likely to be paired with ASP.

We need the beastmode pairing of Ed-Seider. We can get a LHD to play with Sandin-Pelikka.