TomppaKoo
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Mikko and Artsi seem to like him. If those guys like him - I am saying bullshit to anyone trying to present him as a bad team mate.
Confirmed with Link: Avs sign Georgiev to 3-year x $3.4M AAV deal
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I have always maintained since my playing days that goalies are f***ing crazy. They have weird routines to get themselves ready for the game, and a lot of times separate themselves from the team as part of that mental and physical preparation. Don't tell me you don't think guys like Roy and Hasek weren't (and still are) whackjobs. At least Roy is a charming whackjob.
Ones I've encountered as a teammate and opponent have been moody, bratty, unstable motherf***ers. So when I read that Georgiev can be a bit of a pissant my reaction is, yeah, he's a goalie, what else is new?
Goalies in the NHL tend to be on one side or the other personality-wise. They're either total grumps like Grubauer or loveable human teddy bears like Frankie and Boods. And then you have a seething asshole like Binnington who's completely off the grid.
Ones I've encountered as a teammate and opponent have been moody, bratty, unstable motherf***ers. So when I read that Georgiev can be a bit of a pissant my reaction is, yeah, he's a goalie, what else is new?
Goalies in the NHL tend to be on one side or the other personality-wise. They're either total grumps like Grubauer or loveable human teddy bears like Frankie and Boods. And then you have a seething asshole like Binnington who's completely off the grid.
Foppa2118
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I don't know why we always talk about Goergie as if there was truth behind the idea he was a bad teammate in New York.
Rumors tend to take on a life of their own, and if the guy on the other side of that divide was Tony DAngelo, then I don't know why we assume Georgie wasn't in the right for sticking up for himself against DeAngelo and whatever other bully dickheads there are on that team including Trouba.
They gave away his starters job, half the team turned against him, there was at least one and probably more abolsute dickheads like DeAngelo giving him shit for losses and goals and who knows what else. Hard to be the happy go lucky backup that goes along with that, and when you're a soft spoken guy like him, that could give the impression you're a worse teammate than you actually are. He just needed out of there.
Rumors tend to take on a life of their own, and if the guy on the other side of that divide was Tony DAngelo, then I don't know why we assume Georgie wasn't in the right for sticking up for himself against DeAngelo and whatever other bully dickheads there are on that team including Trouba.
They gave away his starters job, half the team turned against him, there was at least one and probably more abolsute dickheads like DeAngelo giving him shit for losses and goals and who knows what else. Hard to be the happy go lucky backup that goes along with that, and when you're a soft spoken guy like him, that could give the impression you're a worse teammate than you actually are. He just needed out of there.
henchman21
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Being buddies with a couple guys pretty much means nothing in this regard. His history is pretty well documented, and depending on your perspective he could be viewed as simply being competitive and outspoken... or he could be an entitled asshole who wants things handed to him and lashes out when he doesn't get his way. In many cases, the truth lies in the middle.
One team's bad teammate, can be another team's leader. Or a bad teammate at 23 might end up a fantastic leader at 30. Being a great leader and teammate doesn't mean you are a good person (or vice versa).
dahrougem2
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He stops pucks. IDGAF about anything else.
FTR Varly came with similar baggage when he arrived in Denver. Reportedly he and Ovechkin didn't get along at all.
henchman21
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As long as he's doing that, you won't hear a peep about him being a bad teammate.
Many players have this label. Some deserved, some not. Varly is proof how it can change and evolve. Varly wasn't well liked by the end of his tenure in Washington. Through the years he ended up very well liked in Colorado and he's raved about in the Isles locker room. Maybe the biggest reason they don't move him is that he is so well liked and has helped Sorokin a ton.
As Henchy has pointed out, being a good teammate and being a good person are not mutually exclusive. Patrick Kane continually proves this.
Also, let's not get too hung up about this "bad teammate" thing. There is a huge spectrum to be had here, it's not like a guy can either be a beloved member of the club or a cancer in the locker room. There's a lot of room for different personalities. So the f*** what if he might be kind of an asshole? I don't care so long as he plays well and conducts himself as a reasonably good human outside of the rink.
Right now the guy is playing some fantastic net. That's all that really matters for the time being.
Also, let's not get too hung up about this "bad teammate" thing. There is a huge spectrum to be had here, it's not like a guy can either be a beloved member of the club or a cancer in the locker room. There's a lot of room for different personalities. So the f*** what if he might be kind of an asshole? I don't care so long as he plays well and conducts himself as a reasonably good human outside of the rink.
Right now the guy is playing some fantastic net. That's all that really matters for the time being.
Avs_19
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Third in the league in GSAA now. Can't believe the Rangers chose Igor over him. Fools.
Yea that's blown way out of proportions. Let's be honest, I don't know how anyone could describe MacKinnon as anything but an asshole on and off the ice.
And I think that gets blown out of proportion too. He actually strikes me as quite chill when he's not on the ice.
SaltySkywalker
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Was gonna say this. Sure, he lost it on Bednar and I'm not proud of that, but let's not confuse passion and an insane level of competitiveness for being an asshole. He comes off pretty chill off the ice at least.
He was the only NHL player or coach IMO who had a proper response to Jalen Ramsey's claim that he was athletic enough to learn hockey in like six months or whatever. Everyone else got all butthurt over it, especially Evander Kane. Nate was all, hey, it could be fun.
And really, it feels like him being an asshole over his teammates' eating habits made at least a couple of those players better. Both Nuke and Calvert had career seasons and both attributed it to Nate's rather strong suggestion that they fix their eating habits.
SaltySkywalker
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That's my boy, right there!
niwotsblessing
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Y'all are missing something important regarding Georgiev's time with the Rangers: f*** the Rangers! What a shitshow of team, and a lousy town to play in.
I'm happy for Georgiev that he got out of that zoo and that he is playing to his potential for the Avs.
I'm happy for Georgiev that he got out of that zoo and that he is playing to his potential for the Avs.
Gigantor The Goalie
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Did a small thread on Georgiev, the TL;DR is Georgiev is having a top 5 season via the numbers & if you really go past the surface you can start to make an argument about being a Vezina Finalist. This isn't a goalie being carried like Vanacek.
forsbergavs32
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He's looked really good so far. Yeah, its a small sample size, but he looks so much more positionally sound than Grubauer or Kuemper. He doesn't need to be the best goalie in the league on this team, just stop most of the shots and steal an occasional game for us when we have a bad night.
Hopefully when he has a bad game, HFAvs can remind themselves that all goalies have bad games including top tier goalies like Vasi, Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, Dryden, etc...
Who am I kidding? The whole board will melt down.
Hopefully when he has a bad game, HFAvs can remind themselves that all goalies have bad games including top tier goalies like Vasi, Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, Dryden, etc...
Who am I kidding? The whole board will melt down.
AvsMakar08
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I think that Sakic made a huge mistake. He should have signed Gerogie for 7 years. He seems to be playing better then Kempie or Groobie.
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Looking back on this thread, seems only a handful of posters were upset with this deal.
LOOONG way to go, but there seems to now be some solid evidence on why the Avs kept looking to acquire this guy over the years.
I wonder how much Parkilla had say in getting him. I’d have to assume they run through him at least when it comes to pro scouting for goalies.
LOOONG way to go, but there seems to now be some solid evidence on why the Avs kept looking to acquire this guy over the years.
I wonder how much Parkilla had say in getting him. I’d have to assume they run through him at least when it comes to pro scouting for goalies.
cinchronicity
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Being a native New Yorker, I can tell you what a bunch of a**holes Ranger fans are. And the press. And, of course, that idiot owner Charles Dolan. (Long time Knicks season tix holder, but Islander fan.) Add in some Russian angst ( ever wonder why there is frequently a conflict with a Russian in these types of dialogues?) But I think a few posters here have nailed the answer: Finland. Yes, he is Russian, but has long spoken Finnish, and lived there. So coming to a team with two Finns playing big roles, plus a Finnish goalie coach and Annunen in the wings as a backup must have been like Christmas some early.
It's almost always a huge mistake to go max term with a goalie. And I promise you the cap hit would not have been as palatable as it currently is if Sakic pushed for more years. Right now he's at great value (there are backups making more than he is) up until his age 29-30 year. This also gives them time to develop a goalie in-house.
