Confirmed with Link: Avs sign Evan Rodrigues - 1 year 2M AAV

[Foppa2118]

Yep



Sucks for him because he didn't make a lot of money in his career.

I think he could get that contract next year with a good season and the cap expected to take a big jump soon.

He'd end up missing out on $1.5M, which sucks, but we've seen worse.

Also, if he signs that same 3 year deal next off season, he'd be getting paid $3.5M one year older in the final year of his deal at 33 than the original offer. In which case, if he could only have commanded a $2M deal at 32 after the initial 3 x $10.5M offer, then it'd be a wash.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

@Chiarelli mentioned Rodrigues as more of a Donskoi replacement and I think that's a good comparable.

My nitpick this off-season has been about Colorado potentially heading into the season with one of Blidh, Kaut, MacDermid, or Sedlak in an everyday role. This signing removes that possibility, until injuries strike (and they will).

Yeah..... I gave Chiarelli an upvote too. Good comparison except Donskoi has more size, E-Rod, more speed.

I don't see how anyone can complain about this. At the very least added depth at half the price of Compher. He can easily break out, or maybe he already has.

LOL........I can always complain...... and about just about anything....

 

[AllAboutAvs]

The thing I really like about the ERod/JTC battle this season is that they are both in contract year. Go at it , guys. Show us who wants the money the most.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

The thing I really like about the ERod/JTC battle this season is that they are both in contract year. Go at it , guys. Show us who wants the money the most.

Yep, and both come of the books this summer freeing up some much needed cap space for our re-signings.

 

[jfc64]

Manson easily. Kadris probably ages the worst, but he at least fills by far the biggest hole on the roster for a couple years.

That hole should be filled cheaply. As soon as we would have signed Kadri dynasty years would be over.

 

[jfc64]

Could quite possibly be the steal of free agency. 1 year for only 2M?!?! Sign me tf up. We obviously know Compher has shown he is NOT that guy. He’s had ample opportunity. Newhook also isn’t quite ready for this yet IMO. I think him as a permanent staple on the third with PP2 time would bode well for his development. So we sign the guy that had the stats to show he could be fit for this role (and as certain as life, death, and taxes HF Avs bitches lol). Say he’s not the guy. That’s why we have time till the deadline to figure something out. This team is still so damn good they can coast to a playoff spot with home ice. Say he’s not the guy worst case scenario. Is this lineup really that bad?

Landeskog-MacKinnon-Nichushkin
Lehkonen-2C-Rantanen
Newhook-Compher-Rodrigues
Cogliano-Meyers-Helm/LOC

Still have Blidh, Sedlak, Olausson, Maltsev, Hudson as F depth.

Newhook - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Landeskog - Compher - Rodrigues
Lehkonen - Meyers - Rantanen
Cog - Helmer - LOCO

 

[MaKarter]

Newhook - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Landeskog - Compher - Rodrigues
Lehkonen - Meyers - Rantanen
Cog - Helmer - LOCO

 

[JH21]

I don't have the patience, time nor skill on this board to do it myself but if someone is interested, it could be interesting to make a poll to see if they could choose only 3 of the 4, which of those four contracts fans would select Avs to pass on:
1) 27 years old Nichushkin at 8 x $6.15M
2) 27 years old Lehkonen at 5 x $4.5M
3) 31 years old Kadri at 7 X $7M
4) 30 years old Manson at 4 X $4.5M

I have a feeling that the question is a little simplistic however. I think that they could have passed on a $4.5M Manson or Lehkonen and made it work this year, but would have had a problem next year with the raises to Mac, Byram and Newhook. So part of their decision is not purely based on this year but on projecting for next year also.

If we keep Kadri we most likely cannot afford BOTH Manson and Lehkonen

So the options should be:

1) 27 years old Nichushkin at 8 x $6.15M
2) 27 years old Lehkonen at 5 x $4.5M and 30 years old Manson at 4 X $4.5M
3) 31 years old Kadri at 7 X $7M

 

[Sea Eagles]

I cannot wait to see this warrior playing both ends of the ice for us. This is the line-up I'd predict:

Landeskog - Mackinnon - Nischushkin
Lehkonen - Rodrigues - Rantanen
Newhook - Myers - Compher
Cogliano - Helm - LOC

Toews - Makar
Manson - Byram
Girard - EJ

Georgiev
Francouz

Newhook / Rodrigues swapping situationally - honestly don't see any teams beating that squad. Easily the best roster in the league imo.

 

[RockLobster]

I cannot wait to see this warrior playing both ends of the ice for us. This is the line-up I'd predict:

Landeskog - Mackinnon - Nischushkin
Lehkonen - Rodrigues - Rantanen
Newhook - Myers - Compher
Cogliano - Helm - LOC

Toews - Makar
Manson - Byram
Girard - EJ

Georgiev
Francouz

Newhook / Rodrigues swapping situationally - honestly don't see any teams beating that squad. Easily the best roster in the league imo.

No offense Sea, but the Avs could be icing me and my 37 year old can't-skate-for-shit ass for 20min a night, and you'd still say it's the best roster in the league.

This roster still has risk with it, primarily the 2C, and goalie.

However, if anyone ever is feeling depressed and needs someone to lend legitimate words of encouragement and to hype them up, you're absolutely the man for the job.

 

[The Abusement Park]

That hole should be filled cheaply. As soon as we would have signed Kadri dynasty years would be over.

How will the hole Kadri left be filled cheaply? The defense is stacked without Manson, Kadri’s hole is a much bigger issue than not having Manson.

 

[TomppaKoo]

I cannot wait to see this warrior playing both ends of the ice for us. This is the line-up I'd predict:

Landeskog - Mackinnon - Nischushkin
Lehkonen - Rodrigues - Rantanen
Newhook - Myers - Compher
Cogliano - Helm - LOC

Toews - Makar
Manson - Byram
Girard - EJ

Georgiev
Francouz

Newhook / Rodrigues swapping situationally - honestly don't see any teams beating that squad. Easily the best roster in the league imo.

I think they should give Rantanen a shot at 2C. He was about 2 points/game last season when he was given that shot. Lehkonen needs to be in second/first line. Not sure where Erod/Newhook/JT will spot in this scenario. I think there will be a lot of experimenting during regular season. This is an awesome depth, still and the D is best in the league.

 

[the_fan]

How will the hole Kadri left be filled cheaply? The defense is stacked without Manson, Kadri’s hole is a much bigger issue than not having Manson.

I disagree. First of all without Manson Avs would be forced to put one of Byram or Girard on their off side. They're both left D and one of them had to play the right side, and secondly they'd be one injury away, perhaps to Girard again or anyone else from calling up MacDonald. They can withstand forward injuries because you can put Mikko at C of needed etc..

 

[The Abusement Park]

I disagree. First of all without Manson Avs would be forced to put one of Byram or Girard on their off side. They're both left D and one of them had to play the right side, and secondly they'd be one injury away, perhaps to Girard again or anyone else of calling up MacDonald. They can withstand forward injuries because you can put Mikko at C of needed etc..

I mean Mikko isn’t a C so that isn’t really a solution to the C issue. Also they could’ve just signed a bottom paring guy and it wouldn’t have mattered because of how deep the defense is. You say we’re one injury away from McDonald, but we are before injuries stuck with Compher or Eric freaking Rodrigues at 2C.

 

[the_fan]

I mean Mikko isn’t a C so that isn’t really a solution to the C issue. Also they could’ve just signed a bottom paring guy and it wouldn’t have mattered because of how deep the defense is. You say we’re one injury away from McDonald, but we are before injuries stuck with Compher or Eric freaking Rodrigues at 2C.

I rather have E Rod at 2 C than Mcdonald or EJ playing top 4 for any long period of time. Without Manson that's what would happen. One injury to either Makar, Toews, Girard or Byram and that top 4 is suddenly pretty weak. EJ can fill in to top 4 for short period of time but you don't want him doing it for long.

Forwards are easily to replace or find solutions. Moving Mikko down or Landeskog down, still have Nichushkin and Lehkonen and E Rod should be decent at 2 C. Maybe Newhook will take a step forward etc..

 

[henchman21]

I rather have E Rod at 2 C than Mcdonald or EJ playing top 4 for any long period of time. Without Manson that's what would happen. One injury to either Makar, Toews, Girard or Byram and that top 4 is suddenly pretty weak. EJ can fill in to top 4 for short period of time but you don't want him doing it for long.

Forwards are easily to replace or find solutions. Moving Mikko down or Landeskog down, still have Nichushkin and Lehkonen and E Rod should be decent at 2 C. Maybe Newhook will take a step forward etc..

You can make the same argument for center... say MacK goes down and you could be looking at ERod as the 1c....

 

[Steerpike]

I rather have E Rod at 2 C than Mcdonald or EJ playing top 4 for any long period of time. Without Manson that's what would happen. One injury to either Makar, Toews, Girard or Byram and that top 4 is suddenly pretty weak. EJ can fill in to top 4 for short period of time but you don't want him doing it for long.

Forwards are easily to replace or find solutions. Moving Mikko down or Landeskog down, still have Nichushkin and Lehkonen and E Rod should be decent at 2 C. Maybe Newhook will take a step forward etc..

Hey I just wanted to say that I noticed your writing is strangely perfect now. I used to read a post and would just know it was "the_fan" without looking at the author.

 

[the_fan]

Hey I just wanted to say that I noticed your writing is strangely perfect now. I used to read a post and would just know it was "the_fan" without looking at the author.

LOL ok...

I mean grammar wise or we're talking attitude? Because I was much nicer before

 

[Steerpike]

LOL ok...

I mean grammar wise or we're talking attitude? Because I was much nicer before

Lol grammar.

 

[the_fan]

Lol grammar.

Oh ok....

Yes, I recently graduated from Harvard

You can make the same argument for center... say MacK goes down and you could be looking at ERod as the 1c....

That's true, but I think d depth is more important to this team specially with Georgiev and Francouz tandem

 

[Richard88]

You can make the same argument for center... say MacK goes down and you could be looking at ERod as the 1c....

Pretty sure it would be Rantanen at 1C if MacKinnon went down for any length of time.

 

[Murzu]

Pretty sure it would be Rantanen at 1C if MacKinnon went down for any length of time.

Agreed.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

You can make the same argument for center... say MacK goes down and you could be looking at ERod as the 1c....

Not that I disagree with the point of your post but in this scenario I am sure Mikko would move to 1C. He did last year when Mack was off the lineup.

Edit: I see you guys beat me to it. Lol

 

[Steerpike]

Every team will have positions of strength and posituons of weakness. Every teams' roster will look gnarly if you take away their best player at that position, yet alone one of the best centers in the league.

Criticizing a 1 year, $2 million signing because it doesn't effectively replace Nathan MacKinnon in the lineup is batshit crazy.

A one year deal is wildly ideal. Shelling out more money and term for a slightly better 2 center would require us to start shipping out core players next year rather than like 3 years from now. This gives Newhook one more year to prove that he's the guy.

Not making this signing is like penciling rookies into your top 6 as meaningful contributors.

Making a long-term commitment to some half washed up star center makes it impossible for Newhook to ever efficiently fill the role.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

About as good of a signing they can make this late into the offseason. Added a player they needed for cheap with no term or risk. Some of the criticism makes very little sense.