Mikko Rantanen
Nikita Zadarov
Jerome Iginla
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Giordano
Bouma
It is Jarome and we don't need him.
Value of: Avs Firesale, truly this time...
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It is Jarome and we don't need him.
I wouldn't say his value has dropped, he's just had a slow start to the season. We're loaded at wing and desperately need an upgrade at 1C to slide Wennberg and Dubinsky down a spot. Like I said in the post, Murray is the most well-rounded defenseman the Jackets have. I think the Jackets do consider moving the two of them together if it means a player like Duchene is coming back.
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This is kind of a funny post given that other fan bases have had to endure the numerous threads/posts from Oiler's fans telling other fan bases what their defensemen were and were not worth over the past 2 years.
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In reality, players aren't "worth" anything until/unless they're traded. Then and only then is their value decided.
This off season we learned that Shea Weber is worth P.K. Subban and that Adam Larsson is worth Taylor Hall.
This off season we learned that Shea Weber is worth P.K. Subban and that Adam Larsson is worth Taylor Hall.
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JVR + Carrick for Barrie
Avs save some cap dollars and add some scoring and size up front in JVR.. Carrick would fit in to the defense and has been playing pretty good this year being a +2 on a weaker team and playing in all situations.
Landeskog - Duchene - Iginla
JVR - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Leafs solidify their top 4 moving forward
Reilly - Barrie
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Avs save some cap dollars and add some scoring and size up front in JVR.. Carrick would fit in to the defense and has been playing pretty good this year being a +2 on a weaker team and playing in all situations.
Landeskog - Duchene - Iginla
JVR - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Leafs solidify their top 4 moving forward
Reilly - Barrie
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Avs44
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...And here is the Avs' defense
Zadorov - Johnson
Tyutin - Beauchemin
Weircioch - Carrick
I think not. Really, really easy no. Avs don't need cap space right now, and will have it in abundance after this year, and JVR is a UFA in less than two years.
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Baile de Los Locos
Johnson
Sustr
Condra
For
Barrie
Martinsen
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Reinhart
Franson
Girgensons
For
Barrie
Sustr
Condra
For
Barrie
Martinsen
EDIT:
Reinhart
Franson
Girgensons
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Barrie
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i really dont think colorado could turn down the second one, buffalo might though
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Avs fan here, only players that should be safe if we miss the playoffs again this year are Rants and Zadorov. Everyone else should be available.
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Avs44
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No way in hell. A soon to be 30 year old Marc Staal signed until 2021, with a NMC, with an average of 5.7 million per year. Good god, no.
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Ah yes, someone else who hasn't watched him for a year. Staal is not a detractor in any deal. His contract is not ideal but he plays well as a top 4 D. Funny how you completely ignored JT Miller btw...
Avs44
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I didn't ignore Miller, I just didn't post about him. The deal is an easy no, with Miller included. Pretty straightforward.
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So what is your price for Barrie then?
What would you be looking for in abstract terms (Top 6 forward, prospects, picks, Dmen, etc.)?
And what would you be looking for from the Rangers?
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He really can't be moved for a forward right now, because then the defense is a mess. The second pairing would probably end up a 36 year old Beauchemin and a 33 year old Tyutin, and they'd both be gone within the next two years with no replacement in sight. Basically, unless the Avs are acquiring a high end, youngish (in age with core) top four defensman from elsewhere, Barrie can't be moved, unless the return is something like a Trouba in a 1 for 1.
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EJ is a top pairing D...why trade him for a lesser piece?
Do you people not see that this is a process?
Crawford posted a 37 save shutout ffs. The Avs who aren't favorites by any stretch actually outshot the effing annual Cup contender Blackhawks. There times it took them 2 games to even get 37 shots last year.
The right processes are there, the bad luck is too. A Varly that's been below average hasn't helped. The Avs may be losing but it's certainly not due to a lack of trying and playing hard.
They're only 4-5. Season is young. Give the Avs til game 20 to see where they're at.
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Oh hell no. The Flames don't do that at all.
How is a potential top 5 pick not quality? Trading Landeskog for Brodie doesn't meet the whole firesale thing and the Flames wouldn't do that straight up, nevermind "starting with Brodie"
One top piece isn't how firesales work and with that 1st being a potential top 5 pick, that is a top piece.
