Value of: Avs Firesale, truly this time...

[Flamesjustwin]

Mikko Rantanen
Nikita Zadarov
Jerome Iginla

for

Giordano
Bouma

It is Jarome and we don't need him.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Has Jenner's stock dropped that much? Or am I just badly overrating Murray? Doesn't seem like Columbus would do that.

I wouldn't say his value has dropped, he's just had a slow start to the season. We're loaded at wing and desperately need an upgrade at 1C to slide Wennberg and Dubinsky down a spot. Like I said in the post, Murray is the most well-rounded defenseman the Jackets have. I think the Jackets do consider moving the two of them together if it means a player like Duchene is coming back.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

No. This whole thread turned into Av's fans TELLING US what their players are worth in Oiler dollars.

Barrie isnt worth RNH and its utterly irrelevant whether Avs fans think he is. We aint trading Nurse, and we can just add the whole thing to the previous 43,276 threads of other fanbases comparing their players to Oiler players.

This is kind of a funny post given that other fan bases have had to endure the numerous threads/posts from Oiler's fans telling other fan bases what their defensemen were and were not worth over the past 2 years.

 

[strictlyrandy]

In reality, players aren't "worth" anything until/unless they're traded. Then and only then is their value decided.

This off season we learned that Shea Weber is worth P.K. Subban and that Adam Larsson is worth Taylor Hall.

 

[TorontoTrades]

JVR + Carrick for Barrie


Avs save some cap dollars and add some scoring and size up front in JVR.. Carrick would fit in to the defense and has been playing pretty good this year being a +2 on a weaker team and playing in all situations.

Landeskog - Duchene - Iginla
JVR - MacKinnon - Rantanen

Leafs solidify their top 4 moving forward

Reilly - Barrie
Gardiner - Zaitsev

 

[Avs44]

JVR + Carrick for Barrie


Avs save some cap dollars and add some scoring and size up front in JVR.. Carrick would fit in to the defense and has been playing pretty good this year being a +2 on a weaker team and playing in all situations.

Landeskog - Duchene - Iginla
JVR - MacKinnon - Rantanen

Leafs solidify their top 4 moving forward

Reilly - Barrie
Gardiner - Zaitsev

...And here is the Avs' defense

Zadorov - Johnson
Tyutin - Beauchemin
Weircioch - Carrick


I think not. Really, really easy no. Avs don't need cap space right now, and will have it in abundance after this year, and JVR is a UFA in less than two years.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Johnson
Sustr
Condra

For

Barrie
Martinsen

EDIT:

Reinhart
Franson
Girgensons

For

Barrie

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Johnson
Sustr
Condra

For

Barrie
Martinsen

EDIT:

Reinhart
Franson
Girgensons

For

Barrie

i really dont think colorado could turn down the second one, buffalo might though

 

[Legend123]

i really dont think colorado could turn down the second one, buffalo might though

they def would...imo

 

[The Abusement Park]

they def would...imo

That 2nd trade is very good for the Avs, I'd do that for sure.

 

[finds71]

Duchene for top pairing.
Barrie for young top 6 forward
EJ for top 4 D
And Varly for a 1st
Anybody interested?

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

How about JT Miller and Marc Staal for Tyson Barrie?

 

[finds71]

How about JT Miller and Marc Staal for Tyson Barrie?

Not sure about cap space but yep value wise Id do it

 

[missionAvs]

Avs fan here, only players that should be safe if we miss the playoffs again this year are Rants and Zadorov. Everyone else should be available.

 

[finds71]

Avs fan here, only players that should be safe if we miss the playoffs again this year are Rants and Zadorov. Everyone else should be available.

Mackinnon is not going anywhere

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Not sure about cap space but yep value wise Id do it

Cap won't work. AVs will have to send a small contract back to the Rangers

 

[HockeyFan100]

Mackinnon is not going anywhere

He will be going if he doesn't step it up

 

[Avs44]

Not sure about cap space but yep value wise Id do it

No way in hell. A soon to be 30 year old Marc Staal signed until 2021, with a NMC, with an average of 5.7 million per year. Good god, no.

 

[Alluckks]

No way in hell. A soon to be 30 year old Marc Staal signed until 2021, with a NMC, with an average of 5.7 million per year. Good god, no.

Ah yes, someone else who hasn't watched him for a year. Staal is not a detractor in any deal. His contract is not ideal but he plays well as a top 4 D. Funny how you completely ignored JT Miller btw...

 

[Avs44]

Ah yes, someone else who hasn't watched him for a year. Staal is not a detractor in any deal. His contract is not ideal but he plays well as a top 4 D. Funny how you completely ignored JT Miller btw...

I didn't ignore Miller, I just didn't post about him. The deal is an easy no, with Miller included. Pretty straightforward.

 

[Alluckks]

I didn't ignore Miller, I just didn't post about him. The deal is an easy no, with Miller included. Pretty straightforward.

So what is your price for Barrie then?

What would you be looking for in abstract terms (Top 6 forward, prospects, picks, Dmen, etc.)?

And what would you be looking for from the Rangers?

 

[Avs44]

So what is your price for Barrie then?

What would you be looking for in abstract terms (Top 6 forward, prospects, picks, Dmen, etc.)?

And what would you be looking for from the Rangers?

He really can't be moved for a forward right now, because then the defense is a mess. The second pairing would probably end up a 36 year old Beauchemin and a 33 year old Tyutin, and they'd both be gone within the next two years with no replacement in sight. Basically, unless the Avs are acquiring a high end, youngish (in age with core) top four defensman from elsewhere, Barrie can't be moved, unless the return is something like a Trouba in a 1 for 1.

 

[Joe Sakic]

Untouchables:

MacKinnon
Landeskog

 

[strictlyrandy]

Duchene for top pairing.
Barrie for young top 6 forward
EJ for top 4 D
And Varly for a 1st
Anybody interested?

EJ is a top pairing D...why trade him for a lesser piece?

Do you people not see that this is a process?

Crawford posted a 37 save shutout ffs. The Avs who aren't favorites by any stretch actually outshot the effing annual Cup contender Blackhawks. There times it took them 2 games to even get 37 shots last year.

The right processes are there, the bad luck is too. A Varly that's been below average hasn't helped. The Avs may be losing but it's certainly not due to a lack of trying and playing hard.

They're only 4-5. Season is young. Give the Avs til game 20 to see where they're at.

 

[Lunatik]

Flames offer for Landeskog:

Matt Stajan (salary reasons)
1st round pick
Hunter Shinkaruk
Rasmus Amdersson

Oh hell no. The Flames don't do that at all.

More quality, less quantity.

Landeskog starts with TJ Brodie.

How is a potential top 5 pick not quality? Trading Landeskog for Brodie doesn't meet the whole firesale thing and the Flames wouldn't do that straight up, nevermind "starting with Brodie"

I'm sorry, GTFO with garbage offers like that. That's an insult. Offer one top piece in return.

One top piece isn't how firesales work and with that 1st being a potential top 5 pick, that is a top piece.