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Any thoughts on the proposed Murray+Jenner for Duchene+Gelinas swap?
I'd do that at as well. I'm a big fan of Murray, I like his game.
Any thoughts on the proposed Murray+Jenner for Duchene+Gelinas swap?
Blues look terrible to start the season. Haven't watched the Avs but sounds like they've been terrible as well. Time for a shakeup:
Nathan Mackinnon
Mikko Rantanen
Vladimir Tarasenko
Robby Fabbri
Duchene's really the only one pulling his weight completely on this team right now. With Roy gone, there's never really been a worse time to trade him, and neither of those Columbus players are worth rolling the dice.
Is Ryan Murray really even much of anything? I wouldn't trade Barrie for him and Barrie was awful last night
So how about something around this:
Stepan 6.5, Zuc, 4.5 and McDonagh 4.7
for
MacKinnon + Barrie don't remember exactly, but with a small add that is close
Call me crazy, but I think the Avs don't trade a core player and they stick with the plan which is clearly an improvement systems wise over whatever it was Roy trotted out. The Avs are outshooting opponents, they're playing incredibly well as a whole (definitely room for improvement in some areas). Call me even crazier, but I think they're gonna start scoring and winning games. These things usually happen.
Call me crazy too cause nothing lasts forever not even avalanche scoring draught
How about JT Miller and Marc Staal for Tyson Barrie?
in theory we could reduce Staal and bribe you to take the NMC, but we would have to agree on the compensation to do thatNo way in hell. A soon to be 30 year old Marc Staal signed until 2021, with a NMC, with an average of 5.7 million per year. Good god, no.
No way in hell I do that deal from a Rangers perspective.
Staal has been playing great this year and finished last year playing well. He might be overpaid, but is still a top-4 defenseman and there's no way in hell I give up a top-4 defender and a top-6 forward for Tyson Barrie.
Drew Doughty? Alright, let's talk about ponying up pieces.
Not a fan of either club, but wow, this is the single worst trade proposal in all my time at HFBoards.
I actually full on burst out laughing reading this.
If Duchene ever gets moved, it will be to Carolina and we get Hanifin
NO
in theory we could reduce Staal and bribe you to take the NMC, but we would have to agree on the compensation to do that
BINGO
Happy to provide comic relief
but seriously...
McD is a premium/elite piece
MacK is a slightly to medium higher premium/elite piece
Rangers are adding a premium (not elite) piece in Zuc
Whatever you value Barrie vs Stepan, who is like 20th best C, approx, no more no less, how off could this be?
3 great pieces, vs 2, plus cap dumps...
Hanifin costs more
Leafs may have an interest in Erik Johnson. Cost??
He's been the best defenseman on the Avs and has paired incredibly well with Zadorov. Sooo...in reality...we'd want another Erik Johnson or better in return.
And why would anyone wanna trade MacKinnon and think they'll get something better back? Kid's 21 and will improve a lot in these next 7 years as avs
This was not the firesale I was expecting. Lol.
This was not the firesale I was expecting. Lol.
Well why would you expect a team to trade their best players that are actually playing well?
Remember when the Avs were beating teams that they shouldn't have beaten and were winning despite being outplayed? Yeah, that's what's happening here, we're just on the receiving end and it sucks.
The OP severely overreacted. The team is 4-5 under a brand new coach that came in on short notice. He's been breaking the guys of all the bad habits Roy taught them and they're better for it. Watch the Avs win both games this weekend and all of a sudden they're the best thing ever. Fans are incredibly irrational.
While I agree to an extent, there is still some concerns I think have been warranted against the player's efforts themselves. We're still seeing the same exact stuff we were seeing even when Sacco was coaching.
I know it's just fantasyland, but Faulk or Hanifin for Duchene or Landeskog. Fair?