Confirmed with Link: Avs acquire C Brock Nelson (50% retained) + F William Dufour for F Cal Ritchie + D Oliver Kylington + 2026 1st + Cond. 2028 3rd

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Haha this f***ing site is hilarious.

We've apparently been wasting years of Mack and Mak primes.

But also fawning over some prospect who may or may not have panned out.

Do you want to win it now or not? Ritchie doesn't help us at all right now.

CMac has massive cajones this year. Let's go.
Yeah, I'm guilty of this. But Ritchie was our best trade piece, would have loved to see it used to help with both this playoff run and the next. Time will tell whether the gamble was worth it!
 
Holy shit, what an awful trade.

We gave up more than Pittsburgh did for Marian Hossa, just to get a way inferior player. Nelson is above-average, but he looked f***ing awful in the Four Nations and IMHO doesn't tilt our team to a contender. And we gave up our future 2nd line centre in return with a ton of RFA years on top of that.

I immensely dislike this all around.
I think @RoyIsALegend is too high on Nelson but you're too low. We'll all meet in the middle.
 
Holy shit, what an awful trade.

We gave up more than Pittsburgh did for Marian Hossa, just to get a way inferior player. Nelson is above-average, but he looked f***ing awful in the Four Nations and IMHO doesn't tilt our team to a contender. And we gave up our future 2nd line centre in return with a ton of RFA years on top of that.

I immensely dislike this all around.
Brother did you seriously compare this trade to one made 17 years ago? Lol
Agreed on this, but we need a another RD over a depth forward I believe.
I think if this team wants to win, they need a 3rd liner with speed and skill to add some offensive punch.

If the top line gets shut down, you need that second wave.
 
Vegas has been good example of how to do this. You can hate them as much as you ever want, but the fact is they have been successful doing this. They "always" trade the first rounders away and concentrates on the current season and worry about the future later. They don't necessarily win that many cups, but they are almost without exception serious contenders.
Smart pro scouting, offseason signings, and cap wizardry are what make a successful team. Draft picks and futures do not. The Buffalo Sabres are a prime example of this.
 
Holy shit, what an awful trade.

We gave up more than Pittsburgh did for Marian Hossa, just to get a way inferior player. Nelson is above-average, but he looked f***ing awful in the Four Nations and IMHO doesn't tilt our team to a contender. And we gave up our future 2nd line centre in return with a ton of RFA years on top of that.

I immensely dislike this all around.

PITTSBURGH WITH MARIAN HOSSA LOL

That trade was 16 years ago!

How many teams were in on Hossa? Didn't Hossa have a no-trade clause and controlled his destiny?

10-12 teams were in on Nelson, he was the #1 most coveted player on the market going into tomorrow.
 
Smart pro scouting, offseason signings, and cap wizardry are what make a successful team. Draft picks and futures do not. The Buffalo Sabres are a prime example of this.
Also aggressive trading - which of course requires that smart pro scouting, but when there are jackeichels and noahhanifins available you go and get them instead of this what this thread shows as "oh I think he might someday maybe become an ok player if lucky and i feel like it might have been a bad move to maybe consider moving him". You pull the trigger and actually go for it.
 
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Isles fan coming in peace. Hopefully the deal works out for both teams. Brock is a good guy and a good player. I can see him re-signing with you guys - not sure if the MN stuff was anything more than rumors/assumptions. And yeah he's 33, but he's got size and has been healthy his whole career and doesn't play a style that depends on speed/recklessness. In other words, I can see him being effective for another several years. Anyway, good luck - I want the 3rd round pick :sarcasm: (and would be rooting for Brock anyway).
 
lol, why are you constantly harping on how he looked in the 4Nations??

It’s a random 4 game sample with a bunch of guys with no structure.
It is just four games, 100% accurate, but it is a pretty big tournament not only for yourself internally, but also to compare yourself against the best of the league. It's not a "random sample size" brethren. The Stanley Cup playoffs, especially going in the deeper rounds, is more of the best of and he didn't stand up to the test.

I am not against acquiring him, I am against paying this much for a player who is at best, above-average. He is closer to Mittelstadt in terms of performance on the ice than he is to Lehkonen.
 
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