Auston Matthews Discussion Thread

[nuck]

Yep one of the very best All disciplines players in the League on both sides of the puck.

Nice results for Matty. Really surprised to see Barzal that highly ranked as his reputation had always been offense creation first (not one dimensional but mostly the points). The Trotz effect is squeezing his offense and still making him harder to play against. Also go JT!

 

[TMLeafer]

I need a GIF of that play to keep the puck in the zone on the PP last night.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

You might be attributing something to me in error.

If you go back to my replies and exchanges I do say, McDavid should easily win the Hart this year.

Why easily? I don’t know i agree

 

[Wafflewhipper]

To put more context.

60 plus goal seasons have occurred 39 times in the NHL. 140 point seasons have occurred only 15 times.

This year we don’t know if McDavid and Matthews can sustain their current pace over a 82 game season.

There are two players Gretzky and Lemieux that you could likely eliminate to adjust them numbers to the rest of the mortals. The Gods fudge the numbers
Here is the list in this link of 60 goal scorers. It’s really notable that gretz and Mario done it 9 times combined. Then Espo and and a couple others that make up a big number of them like Hull,Bure and Kurri etc.It’s elite company and they all won awards for scoring prowess. Most Goals in One NHL Season
Lots of repeats but arare feat to score 60. Same can be said on 140 point seasons. 16 of 24 140 points plus seasons were done by Gretz and Mario. Espo done it twice and no others on the list repeated the trick.

 

[Petrus]

I just think McDavid’s 145 point pace is a big deal in addition to the fact Oilers rely so much on the Draistl-McDavid Line.

 

[zeke]

I need a GIF of that play to keep the puck in the zone on the PP last night.

take the time to appreciate this subtle genius we get to watch game in and game out his whole career:

(also, credit to Mo for reading it so well - mo's a bit of a keep-in genius himself).

 

[Pinto]

take the time to appreciate this subtle genius we get to watch game in and game out his whole career:

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(also, credit to Mo for reading it so well - mo's a bit of a keep-in genius himself).

I didn’t even notice this when it happened.

We are very lucky.

 

[striker3]

good territory, goal scoring was also significantly higher during those seasons.

That graphic is slightly wrong. Mogilny/teemu lead the league in goals in 92/93 with 76 in 77 and 84 respectively. Both of which still above that .81 clip. Lemieux led in goals per game though. (69 in 60)

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I just think McDavid’s 145 point pace is a big deal in addition to the fact Oilers rely so much on the Draistl-McDavid Line.

Matthews 12 game winners gives this team swagger. There is something to be said for how much value Matthews bring to his team too.

We have a deeper roster that anyone else in the north but he is our bread and butter scoring machine. He’s every bit the threat McDavid is for my thinking overall.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

take the time to appreciate this subtle genius we get to watch game in and game out his whole career:

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(also, credit to Mo for reading it so well - mo's a bit of a keep-in genius himself).

Wow he flipped that with the pressure to Mo lol. Thats insane.

 

[Petrus]

Matthews 12 game winners gives this team swagger. There is something to be said for how much value Matthews bring to his team too.

We have a deeper roster that anyone else in the north but he is our bread and butter scoring machine. He’s every bit the threat McDavid is for my thinking overall.

I think If the Leafs were #1 in the League with Matthews performing as is, he has a legit shot.

 

[Confucius]

At least he is getting more respect on the mainboards, gone are the days when some were saying he wasn't even top 10. Some have now relented he is 2nd or 3rd. Good for AM 34.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I think If the Leafs were #1 in the League with Matthews performing as is, he has a legit shot.

We could be 3rd overall in the league. The higher the better for last change is important. Keefe is still going to manage minutes these last set of games while trying to finish as high as possible

 

[LadyLala]

It’s not anything personal against Matthews, it just amounts to others not being able to stand the Leafs having anything good. They say they’re not jealous and no cup since ‘67 blah blah blah, but it absolutely eats away at people to see Matthews doing what he’s doing for the Leafs. Any other team they wouldn’t even care and would have no issue with giving him the credit he deserves.

 

[123offtheglass]

That graphic is slightly wrong. Mogilny/teemu lead the league in goals in 92/93 with 76 in 77 and 84 respectively. Both of which still above that .81 clip. Lemieux led in goals per game though. (69 in 60)

You're right, should have checked myself before I posted that; surprised how often they mess these things up.

 

[authentic]

18 goals in his first 18 games

Then he hurt his wrist

Now in his last 17 he’s got 17 goals

Literally goal per game when healthy. Generational and possibly the best goal scorer ever (TBD) who’s been held back by Babcock and injuries

Greatest Maple Leaf of all time when it’s all said and done. No doubt in my mind.

This doesn't even seem like it should be possible for a center that plays a great two-way game. Just unbelievable.

 

[authentic]

Just pass him the puck! he can score from the stands, while buying a hot dog.

Kessel + Ovechkin Hybrid.

 

[3blizzard4]

It’s not anything personal against Matthews, it just amounts to others not being able to stand the Leafs having anything good. They say they’re not jealous and no cup since ‘67 blah blah blah, but it absolutely eats away at people to see Matthews doing what he’s doing for the Leafs. Any other team they wouldn’t even care and would have no issue with giving him the credit he deserves.

yes there is tons of jealousy. On any given day venture into the Oilers board. The Leafs are what get the convo going there.
The irony on that board is such low hanging fruit.

 

[authentic]

If he could keep this level of dominance in the playoffs...imagine the possibilities.

Playoff goal record is 18. It will certainly be a lot harder than this regular season though.

 

[authentic]

Love this stat:

Career Goals/60 all active players:
1. Matthews: 1.862
2. Ovi: 1.754
3. Stamkos: 1.621
4. Pasta: 1.583
5. Laine: 1.469

Career even-strength Goals/60 all active players:
1. Matthews: 1.651
2. Ovi: 1.435
3. Stamkos: 1.275
4. Vrana: 1.266
5. McDavid: 1.263

Matthews has more career even-strength goals/60 than any other active player has career even strength+PP goals/60 except for Ovi.

That is just bonkers.

 

[authentic]

Really wish we had 5v5 vs PP for that era. I suspect it brings these players closer than the per-game stats suggest.

Lemieux scored over half his points on the powerplay in 1995-96. Someone posted it here a while ago, and Lemieux also had 41% of his career points on the powerplay. In his comeback season he averaged almost 6 minutes of powerplay time per game, so I can only imagine how much he averaged in the prime of his career when scoring was way higher.

 

[Mats13]

This doesn't even seem like it should be possible for a center that plays a great two-way game. Just unbelievable.

Like I said, he’s simple generational. Anyone denying that is willfully ignorant and usually just salty that he’s a Leaf.

 

[Havoc]

I just think McDavid’s 145 point pace is a big deal in addition to the fact Oilers rely so much on the Draistl-McDavid Line.

meh. the only difference in their points comes from the PP really.

Our team ruined Matthews stats with our garbage PP.

 

[HellasLEAF]

It's not out of the realm of possibility yet that Matthews gets 50. He would need to really go off in one game but it's possible.

 

[zeke]

It’s not anything personal against Matthews, it just amounts to others not being able to stand the Leafs having anything good. They say they’re not jealous and no cup since ‘67 blah blah blah, but it absolutely eats away at people to see Matthews doing what he’s doing for the Leafs. Any other team they wouldn’t even care and would have no issue with giving him the credit he deserves.

It's just kinda sad that they've taken away from themselves the joy of watching Matthews make magic out there, just cuz they hate the leafs.