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HolyCrap said:
I’m a huge Mathews fan. And your completely correct. Our core (including Mathews) has no pushback or willingness to take it to another level both physically, mentally and athletically. Other than Willy, who surprised me personally we need a core that is willing to fight. I find myself saying this every damn year and here we are again. No cup winner didn’t have a core and team around them that were soft. Even the physical players we brought in forgot how to play tough the moment they wore the Leafs jersey. When I say soft I don’t just mean physically I mean in general.
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Let's assume half the teams miss playoffs...what makes you think Toronto won't get worse in changing things and become one of those teams. I'm not sure changing things works...so they changed babcock..lamariello....no Fred anderson...are we looking to keep mixing it up?? I never liked matthews without puck..mcdavid is tons better all around and makes things happrn..likely mvp 3 times now. His demeanor, his facial expression..his post game interview game 7...he looked like a kid with special needs...this is your star??
 
Am I allowed to post link to post game comments game 7 toronto...marner n matthews looked like they were 12 yrs old...kid u not
 
JT AM da real deal said:
Matty, like Mitch, got paid before he earned it .. they were both from financially struggling families which is a bigger push to get paid more and faster.. best bet is always to pay for performance once people have performed so you know they can .. until then bridge deals .. paying guys off before they have proven themselves is always a mistake .. makes them feel good financially but also impacts their motivation to get next contract
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Do you know I basically posted the same thing you did couple years ago and got torched buy a lot of the usual posters like I don’t know what I’m talking about why don’t I go somewhere else even up to yesterday was clearly told are use are going to run and hide when they win tonight yeah where are they today
 
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Stephen said:
The difference between Matthews and Marner is Matthews was really good and the Leafs were winning up until the start of Game 5. He had a coming out party, everyone loved seeing him lead the Leafs to victory. The back to back games were road wins in a 24 hour window where he didn’t produce but he hit, won faceoffs and was impactful. Then the radio shows started feeling good, the series felt like a lay up and the wheels completely fell off.
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Matthews is a star player who had a good series but wasn't a star, which happens all of the time to star players every year. He still did lots of good things and was overall a net positive. Marner is a completely different story, as he was absolutely terrible in many key aspects of the game and was overall a net negative. From a star player and leader, that never happens and is completely unacceptable
 
i said this before, its easier to shut down a star player when the other 2 linemates are doing less than nothing. nobody even had to respect marner because they all knew he wasnt going to do anything but try to pass to matthews. and i love hyman but he wasnt the same hyman we have seen the past 2 seasons.
 
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CantLoseWithMatthews said:
Matthews is a star player who had a good series but wasn't a star, which happens all of the time to star players every year. He still did lots of good things and was overall a net positive. Marner is a completely different story, as he was absolutely terrible in many key aspects of the game and was overall a net negative. From a star player and leader, that never happens and is completely unacceptable
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Marner has 25 career playoff points in 32 games.

Matthews has 24 career playoff points in 32 games.

Let's not pretend one is untouchable.
 
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Scott r said:
Let's assume half the teams miss playoffs...what makes you think Toronto won't get worse in changing things and become one of those teams. I'm not sure changing things works...so they changed babcock..lamariello....no Fred anderson...are we looking to keep mixing it up?? I never liked matthews without puck..mcdavid is tons better all around and makes things happrn..likely mvp 3 times now. His demeanor, his facial expression..his post game interview game 7...he looked like a kid with special needs...this is your star??
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If you think the leafs should stay the course and things will eventually turn around that’s fine. They have to compete in the Atlantic nextyear I bet they are in tough to make the playoffs anyways so why not retool? As for McDavid I never mentioned anything about him. He plays for an even worse built and managed team. He won’t stick around that long there but the Oilers will have more options with cap space than leafs to retool.
 
CantLoseWithMatthews said:
Matthews is a star player who had a good series but wasn't a star, which happens all of the time to star players every year. He still did lots of good things and was overall a net positive. Marner is a completely different story, as he was absolutely terrible in many key aspects of the game and was overall a net negative. From a star player and leader, that never happens and is completely unacceptable
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I love matthews but be honest with yourself. He did not have a good series.

If he was just overall good throughout the series the leafs would be off to the 2nd rd.
 
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BigGulpsEh said:
I love matthews but be honest with yourself. He did not have a good series.

If he was just overall good throughout the series the leafs would be off to the 2nd rd.
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Saying he had a good series is embarrassing. Come on, why is the guy untouchable. Just look at the film, he literally checked out and was mentally defeated. Marner was a disaster and I’d explore options where he is concerned. Right beside him is 34, no heart, no jam, he faded more and more as the games became more important. It’s inexcusable, good is the new awful I guess. Is Auston accountable, everyone else is apparently, yet golden boy gets excuses. He was our third best center in the series.
 
BigGulpsEh said:
I love matthews but be honest with yourself. He did not have a good series.

If he was just overall good throughout the series the leafs would be off to the 2nd rd.
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There's a difference between good and good relative to expectations. He was good, but that's obviously not enough from a player expected to be dominant. And it's very different from the series Marner had
 
Has matthews ever won a series in his life?

He lost first round back in Switzerland.

Every year he's been with the leafs we have lost in our first series.

The guy just disappears when the games get intense.

Why was he paid so much when he had proven so little? I genuinely have no idea what dubas was thinking.
 
Plat87 said:
Who's smiling now, Auston?
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A true champion and leader... I'm sure Hyman regretted his decision to get involved

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DarkKnight said:
Yep, I’d at least consider trading Mitch as I sit here today, see what the options are. That said, Big Papi was so disengaged, so non chalant, I seriously question if this guy has another gear, the inner fire to win anything. His performance was disgraceful.
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I don't think he does. I think he's still essentially a "frat boy" who has always gotten by on pure talent. But that's obviously just an impression with no actual proof.
 
weems said:
Our powerplay is our enforcer.

That didnt exactly age very well :laugh:
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Like a lot of pro-Dubas, Matthews, Keefe posts here... totally didn't age well.

We just witnessed the worst collapse in a half century.

We need to suck on that for awhile.
 
egd27 said:
I don't think he does. I think he's still essentially a "frat boy" who has always gotten by on pure talent. But that's obviously just an impression with no actual proof.
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How anyone can come out so listless and flat in the game of his life is unreal. The last three games he literally was waiting for the game to come to him. No champion thinks that way, they grab the game. I think things have come too easy for Matthews, perhaps he lacks the royal jelly. Returns aren’t good so far, people can say he was good before, all I know he’s the big dog on a team that can’t win a round.
 
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Pookie said:
Marner has 25 career playoff points in 32 games.

Matthews has 24 career playoff points in 32 games.

Let's not pretend one is untouchable.
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One gets double teamed because no one has to cover the other.
 
A1LeafNation said:
One gets double teamed because no one has to cover the other.
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Well, then we'd be better off not having a player that gets double teamed and can't produce. Best to spread that cap hit around into 2 balanced players that can't be double teamed
 
Pookie said:
Well, then we'd be better off not having a player that gets double teamed and can't produce. Best to spread that cap hit around into 2 balanced players that can't be double teamed
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Doesn't it make more sense to get rid of the player with the same cap hit that can't produce when no one defends them instead lol.
 
Pookie said:
Well, then we'd be better off not having a player that gets double teamed and can't produce. Best to spread that cap hit around into 2 balanced players that can't be double teamed
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Or you give him a winger that could shoot the puck.
 
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