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These guys are way more focused on team success this year. Nobody who watches the games should be worried about Matthews. poor guy will only have 100 pts!

Points mean nothing when you're losing. Same goes for the playoffs. I think everyone has been noticeably better this year from the eye test than theyve ever been.
 
I don't think it's that far fetched for Matthews to put up 25 goals and 53+ points in the second half.

If he ends up with 45 goals and 100+ points while he continues his stellar two way play then that's a top tier player. Especially if this is his down year.
League scoring is up so high though that a 100 point season may land him outside the top 15 in league scoring and an entire 50 points below 1st place which is insane. Top tier player sure but probably not earning practically top 3 cap hit.

Doesn't matter to me as long as he brings it during the playoffs
 
League scoring is up so high though that a 100 point season may land him outside the top 15 in league scoring and an entire 50 points below 1st place which is insane. Top tier player sure but probably not earning practically top 3 cap hit.

Doesn't matter to me as long as he brings it during the playoffs

100 points will not be as low as 15th place and McDavid very likely doesn’t finish with 150 points.
 
100 points will not be as low as 15th place and McDavid very likely doesn’t finish with 150 points.
Thats what the pacing looks like for players with more points than Matthews. Considering McDavid put 123 points last year and has been on a steady tear the entire season i would say it is definitely a possibility
 
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He hasn't been traded, he is a game time decision.

McCann is a big Albertan. Might be a good time to see his first game.

The Leafs also announced that star forward Auston Matthews missed practice because of a maintenance day and will be a game-time decision for Wednesday's game against Nashville.

 
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These guys are way more focused on team success this year. Nobody who watches the games should be worried about Matthews. poor guy will only have 100 pts!

Points mean nothing when you're losing. Same goes for the playoffs. I think everyone has been noticeably better this year from the eye test than theyve ever been.

That's why you never hear fans talk about Marcel Dionne, a dominant player in his time on one of the greatest lines in history and his stats reflect this. Ditto for Gilbert Perreault, a lesser player but still a household name during his career. Neither won a Cup even though they had some fantastic individual stats.

Win just one Cup and if you are a star you name will be pronounced decades after you retire. Win multiple Cups and be immortalized, even moreso if you are a stud.
 
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I'm not going to get into the Drai vs Matthews debate



But there is absolutely zero comparison between 97 an34



Its like comparing Iginla to Crosby all time



McDavid will be the greatest to ever play hockey when he retires.



His rookie season is better/equal to matthews 2nd best year (mcdavid was 3rd in ppg, while Matthews was 7th or 8th in his first rocket season)



Anyone who thinking matthews compares to McDavid does so because he's wearing a maple leafs sweater.



No body since 66 played compares to McDavid.
False. Matthews plays all three zones, has a better shot., Doesent seem to get caught with random woman on camera.

Matthews when he's on, like last year is the best player in the world..
 
Seems to be a mixture of a few things...

1. Some bad puck luck. He's had a ton of missed shots/posts/crossbars/would-be goals hitting knobs of goalie sticks this season, often during some of his best chances, leading to an unsustainably low conversion rate so far.
2. No free or easy goals. All of his ES goals are 5v5. No extra ES goals 3v3, 4v4, 6v5, or into an empty net. Rantanen, for example, has a league-leading 21 ES goals, but only 14 are 5v5. Ovechkin has 20 ES goals, but only 12 are 5v5.
3. He's being shadowed and double teamed like crazy after last year's MVP season. No time or space to do anything but quickly pass a lot this year.
4. Perhaps as a result of #3, or perhaps just an attempt to expand his skillset, he seems to be focusing more on playmaking this year.
5. Quite frankly, he doesn't mesh well with Nylander. They play a different style of game, and now that Marner isn't there, Matthews has to take on pretty much all of the defensive responsibility of the line.

I wouldn't worry too much. The line is still producing well, and an underrated amount of that is because of Matthews, even if he's not the one getting the goals (or an abnormal amount of times, even the points). He's doing so much of the work and opening up so much space and opportunity for Nylander/Bunting to do their thing.

It was funny seeing people run to declare Nylander our MVP because he had like 1 more point over less than half a season, in part because of all the uncredited work Matthews was putting in. Personally, I'm encouraged by how committed Matthews is to team over individual, and I'm sure Matthews will hit a hot stretch at some point.

unnecessary nylander hate.
 
That's why you never hear fans talk about Marcel Dionne, a dominant player in his time on one of the greatest lines in history and his stats reflect this. Ditto for Gilbert Perreault, a lesser player but still a household name during his career. Neither won a Cup even though they had some fantastic individual stats.

Win just one Cup and if you are a star you name will be pronounced decades after you retire. Win multiple Cups and be immortalized, even moreso if you are a stud.

Marcel Dionne never had fantastic stats in the playoffs though, just like Joe Thornton.
 
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@Zur En Arrh



I'm not going to get into the Drai vs Matthews debate



But there is absolutely zero comparison between 97 an34



Its like comparing Iginla to Crosby all time



McDavid will be the greatest to ever play hockey when he retires.



His rookie season is better/equal to matthews 2nd best year (mcdavid was 3rd in ppg, while Matthews was 7th or 8th in his first rocket season)



Anyone who thinking matthews compares to McDavid does so because he's wearing a maple leafs sweater.



No body since 66 played compares to McDavid.

Dude wtf is this crap, nobody since Lemieux compares to McDavid? Crosby and Jagr were just as dominant over their peers.
 
Marcel Dionne never had fantastic stats in the playoffs though, just like Joe Thornton.

It's why Gamers are so hard to find. When you get them, don't let them go easily. They have to basically play themselves out of town one way or another.

I think of Claude Lemieux and how he levelled up come playoffs, or more currently a Braden Point. No excuses, no gas is left in the tank, just go through a wall for the ring.

It's funny how no one ever refers to Claude Lemiuex as being just a good hockey player in the regular season, they talk about his playoff performances, his Conn Smythe, 4 Cups with three different teams and unfortunately for him, they talk about his hit on Shanahans old teammate Kris Draper (a hit that was bad but only made worse due to the unfortunate location along the boards).

Leafs need some guys in the image of these players, minus the controversy, or at least not so much.
 
@Zur En Arrh



I'm not going to get into the Drai vs Matthews debate



But there is absolutely zero comparison between 97 an34



Its like comparing Iginla to Crosby all time



McDavid will be the greatest to ever play hockey when he retires.



His rookie season is better/equal to matthews 2nd best year (mcdavid was 3rd in ppg, while Matthews was 7th or 8th in his first rocket season)



Anyone who thinking matthews compares to McDavid does so because he's wearing a maple leafs sweater.



No body since 66 played compares to McDavid.
McDavid is closer to Crosby than he is to Gretzky… imagine every team in the NHL retiring the 97 jersey?

Wayne was so good… nobody even wanted to wear 99.

Retired jersey in every NHL arena… besides the Great One’s records, McJesus has a ways to go still.
 
He hasn't been traded, he is a game time decision.

McCann is a big Albertan. Might be a good time to see his first game.

The Leafs also announced that star forward Auston Matthews missed practice because of a maintenance day and will be a game-time decision for Wednesday's game against Nashville.

Phewww. Figured for sure he was traded. ;)
 
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It's why Gamers are so hard to find. When you get them, don't let them go easily. They have to basically play themselves out of town one way or another.

I think of Claude Lemieux and how he levelled up come playoffs, or more currently a Braden Point. No excuses, no gas is left in the tank, just go through a wall for the ring.

It's funny how no one ever refers to Claude Lemiuex as being just a good hockey player in the regular season, they talk about his playoff performances, his Conn Smythe, 4 Cups with three different teams and unfortunately for him, they talk about his hit on Shanahans old teammate Kris Draper (a hit that was bad but only made worse due to the unfortunate location along the boards).

Leafs need some guys in the image of these players, minus the controversy, or at least not so much.
This team needs a guy like Darcy Tucker.
 

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