News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[ToDavid]

Interesting chart - has cap hit % of star player contracts when signed and also translates them into what their aav would be next season

Interesting, but weirdly setup. Seems like he's needlessly repeating players for every year of their contract when the only relevant data is the cap hit % at signing and implied cap hit today. That graphic could be an easy to read list of like 30 guys instead of a sprawling table.

It's also a bit misleading without the context of the article. He's adjusting guys who signed pre-2013 backdiving deals to reflect what their cap hit would have been if you include only the first 8 years of their contract (so Shea Weber gets adjusted to an $11.5m AAV or 19.2% of the $60m cap). That's not exactly a fair adjustment. I agree that just taking their now-illegal contract structure at face value isn't a great comparison either, but its not realistic to assume they would have gotten the salary they did over the first 8 years without the backdiving structure bringing down the cap hit. That's simply not the contract they signed and its not a contract any team would have signed at the time.

Take out those wonky contracts and it seems like there's a pretty strong case for him to be around 15%, or $12m-$12.5m, which would not really be all that surprising. And even that's putting him in a group with mostly guys who have had significant playoff success, which he's lacking.

The rest of the article can basically be summed up as: "but he should change the landscape and sign for way more anyway."

I like a lot of Dom's stuff but this article is just him trying to cash in on the Matthews contract rage bait.

 

[Budz]

If he wants 8@16 per.
Trade him for the best offer you get.

So sick of this core.

 

[ToneDog]

just a daily reminder that he is 35....I'm 32 and he looks like he could be my dad.


my bad

OV is 37. What does grey hair have to do with a person's character and credibility ?

Perhaps Frank dyes the grey into his hair to look wiser. You know like our ex-GM wearing fake glasses. LOL.

 

[nuck]

This is my sentiment as well. If Matthews doesn't want to commit, there's only one option.

This issue is what does the club see as a commitment. Four years would give you his peak and if the money wasn't obscene and the last year was M-NT that seems like a doable deal. Three years with full NM is a hard pass coming off an 85 point season.

I can't think of another player signing a 3-4 year deal so the agent seems like they are trying to break new ground. I doubt that AM personally concocted this sort of mercenary strategy any more than the actual players came up with the idea of pct of the cap vs this is your salary. The first GM to do that opened the floodgates at the expense of all their lower paid players. Will ShannyTree be the new pioneers?

 

[ACC1224]

If he wants 8@16 per.
Trade him for the best offer you get.

So sick of this core.

Now it's 16......it'll be at 25 by the time he signs.

 

[WillNy29]

OV is 37. What does grey hair have to do with a person's character and credibility ?

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Perhaps Frank dyes the grey into his hair to look wiser. You know like our ex-GM wearing fake glasses. LOL.

its not the greys...its the combination of greys and stress eating lol

If im not mistaken ovechkin had a gnarly smoking habit when he came over to NA lol

 

[Budz]

Now it's 16......it'll be at 25 by the time he signs.

Right? Like how are we supposed to root for these guys.

It’s so gross.

 

[ACC1224]

Right? Like how are we supposed to root for these guys.

It’s so gross.

Not believing everything that you read and waiting until he signs to determine whether you can root for him or not.

 

[ToneDog]

Right? Like how are we supposed to root for these guys.

It’s so gross.

You are letting your mind run wild. Hell Matty could surprise us and sign a team friendly deal. LOL.

 

[Budz]

You are letting your mind run wild. Hell Matty could surprise us and sign a team friendly deal. LOL.

Not holding my breath.

Too many insiders sharing big numbers on his (34) side. Kipper, EF, CJ. None reporting expect Matthews to show his desire to win a cup by taking a team friendly deal.

Words never spoken.

 

[MCR74]

just a daily reminder that he is 35....I'm 32 and he looks like he could be my dad.

 

[Niagara Bill]

As I said, "I'm sure the Leafs have a very good idea where his head is at".
They don't need to put on a meaningless display to make people feel better.

The Leafs may not but AM should. If you think meaningless is what our fans are, you would be wrong. This team has failed us for 56yrs.
I hope you are right, but if no deal is in place the Leafs could be screwed.

 

[ACC1224]

The Leafs may not but AM should. If you think meaningless is what our fans are, you would be wrong. This team has failed us for 56yrs.
I hope you are right, but if no deal is in place the Leafs could be screwed.

Meaningless as in what is said today could change by next week.
I'm not worried, everything will work out fine.

 

[myleafs]

Last day to concentrate on signing AM, then a dual focus must start...sign or trade, which ever comes first.
Would you trade even up for Makar?
Would you accept 3 first round draft choices?
Would you take Karlson and a first rounder?
Would you trade to Chicago for this year's first rounder?

Not saying these are possible, but losing AM for nothing next July is 100% wrong!
He plays fast a loose over $1m bucks per yr. but what he is really doing is playing with MY desire after 56 flippin yrs to see a Stanley Cup victory.
Screw you AM, get on the wagon or leave the Ponderosa.

yes
no
no
yes

 

[myleafs]

First question Tre should have asked Matty is "do you want to be here"? If no, you ask him to give you a list of teams he will extend with and you start taking bids immediately.

I am assuming the answer was yes and the Leafs did not freak over his ask so a deal might already be done or will be done on July 1st when it can become official.

I am guessing they will want to throw their pissed off fans a bone on July 1st by announcing a Matty extension.

And if that extension has a 14-15 beside it, the fan base will once again/still be divided.

It would be so Leafy to have 4 players with virtually zero playoff success making $10+m. You would seriously have to question the competence of the management team and the suits above them.

Your just coming to that conclusion now?

 

[myleafs]

Now it's 16......it'll be at 25 by the time he signs.

Im getting vibes that 16 is being thrown out there so when he signs for 14+ people will be relieved

 

[ACC1224]

Im getting vibes that 16 is being thrown out there so when he signs for 14+ people will be relieved

Who is saying 16 other than that poster I quoted?

 

[Albz]

Ppl wanting to trade Marner literally our best player are just crazy...... trade marner and you will never see Matthew's score over 40 in a season.

 

[Budz]

Who is saying 16 other than that poster I quoted?

We’ve heard a lot of 3 years @ 15 - so it’s not hard to believe he would want this for max term.

 

[nuck]

Ppl wanting to trade Marner literally our best player are just crazy...... trade marner and you will never see Matthew's score over 40 in a season.

He scored 40 as a rookie with Nylander beside him and 37 in 68 when Mitch was beside Tavares so I think he will be okay. It might be something to spook him with in negotiations though.

 

[Budz]

He scored 40 as a rookie with Nylander beside him and 37 in 68 when Mitch was beside Tavares so I think he will be okay. It might be something to spook him with in negotiations though.

Exactly, we don’t need him to score 60.
Score 40-50, play a 200 game and round out the rest of the team with depth who can chip in goals and play gritty.

 

[nuck]

We’ve heard a lot of 3 years @ 15 - so it’s not hard to believe he would want this for max term.

This is all smoke and the talking heads. Anything that may have originated with the agent is intentional fuel. They aren't giving away their actual negotiation strategy to a sports reporter. And anything not from the agent is just worthless. 10 days to go and no point in being led around by TSN and Sportsnet. Worrying won't change the outcome.

 

[myleafs]

Who is saying 16 other than that poster I quoted?

I was just hopping on your sentiment. 14-15 are numbers that have been thrown out there and are just about as bad as 16.

 

[thewave]

OV is 37. What does grey hair have to do with a person's character and credibility ?

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Perhaps Frank dyes the grey into his hair to look wiser. You know like our ex-GM wearing fake glasses. LOL.

I always knew they were fake glasses, I knew it! lol

 

[myleafs]

Ppl wanting to trade Marner literally our best player are just crazy...... trade marner and you will never see Matthew's score over 40 in a season.

We cant trade Marner cause he is our best player, we cant trade Matthews cause he scored 60, we cant trade Nylander cause he got 40 and can skate so good.......so lets just overpay again and cross our fingers it will work out this time?