Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

TheBeastCoast

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How about the fact that OV did it with a rookie Backstrom, and had to create his own offense and space, while Matthews did it by getting to areas where one of the most established passers in the game can find him?
Matthews has 10 goals in his last 10 games playing with Bertuzzi and Domi. I really do not understand this need to tear one player down to prop up another. You are allowed to appreciate what Matthews is doing without it somehow being disrespectful to Ovi lol
 

v00d00daddy

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This stat is so ridiculously flawed. You can’t just pretend like Matthews is more effective at drawing penalties and scoring on them. On some level a player has control over this stat.

OV in 08’ drew 1.8 penalties per 60 mins. He scored on those penalties at an unreal rate. This makes him more impressive to me, that he couldn’t be contained and forced the other team short handed.

Now if Matthews was able to draw penalties as a similar rate, you might have something. But he can’t, and doesn’t, and so you can’t punish Ov for being better than him in this area.


And if the queen had you know what she would be the King. In 08 OV was an unstoppable force and he drew more penalties than Matthews does this season. Deal with it instead of trying to bend stats to fit your narrative.
Who’s bending stats. Matthews just matched Ovi’s best in fewer games.

Matthews has just put up the best goal scoring season since 95/96

He’s also already put up more 60 goal seasons than Ovi.

Will matthews ever score as many goals as Ovi? Only time will tell.

Is matthews a better goal scorer than Ovi? Yes
 

Mitch nylander

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How about the fact that OV did it with a rookie Backstrom, and had to create his own offense and space, while Matthews did it by getting to areas where one of the most established passers in the game can find him?

He's had 10 goals 10 assists 20 points in his last 11 playing with Domi and Bertuzzi.

The stretch before with Marner, he only had 3 in 10. I think this narrative is getting old.
 

Strangle

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Exactly, we can’t take away goals from OV because he is a more effective scorer on the PP. You see how that is flawed?

Agreed. But if he doesn’t hit close to 70, it won’t be as impressive. You can’t just pretend like the leafs/Matthews should have drawn more PPs and scored on them when he didn’t.

But you can take goals away from Matthew’s or literally anyone outside of Ovechkin’s era?

You don’t see how that’s flawed?

Or excuse me, give other players a fraction of a goal per each of Ovechkin’s goals. So Ovechkin’s goals are worth 1.0, but everyone else’s is worth < 1.0

Makes total sense
 

Strangle

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How is Stutzle not better? He has 4 more goals than Matthews.

Oh wait whoops that’s points, he has 4 more points than Matthews has goals.

The Tim “Plus $5 Million” Stutzle “The Great One”

66 goals is out of this world.

Ya but that’s only, like 35 goals compared to Ovechkin’s goals. Which were 40% more difficult to score

Because goa scoring is a judged sport now, ranked on a nebulous difficulty scale I got from an excel worksheet I found on the internet
 
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