Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96
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The only players with more goals drafted since 2007 are Patrick Kane, Jamie Benn, Stamkos and Tavares. Matthews was drafted in 2016. His goal scoring has been nuts. Outside Tavares and Benn, most of the guys active in the league who have more goals than him are first ballot hall of famers in their mid to late 30s like Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Kane, Kopitar, and Stamkos. or guys who entered the league full decade or more before him like Marchand, Pavelski, Parise, and Jeff Carter.
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I mean, that’s true. But he hasn’t been trash
Living up to his regular season stats isn’t even a reasonable expectation and would be one of the greatest playoff performances of all time if he did it
That’s a hell of a high bar, and I hope he does it. But it’s really not reasonable
A generational goal scorer like Matthews should be dominant in the playoffs. Not every year but certainly in some. Orr was, Gretzky was, Lemieux was and Crosby has been. Heck even Ovie has had a couple of superb playoffs. Matthews has yet to be that guy. Buy he still has time to do so.
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When I’ve seen people do some work on adjusted stats to compare over time, Ovie’s 65 goal season tends to go very high up in rankings, and also Brett Hull’s season comes out very high. If you want to compare numbers across time they have to be adjusted somehow to be relevant, but it won’t be perfect. That’s why I like to look at scoring titles - how many seasons did a player score the most goals of all players in the league.
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This is a very good illustration of why some adjustments is necessary. This may not be the best way of doing it, I don’t know, but if you don’t like it, come up with a better way and explain.
Divine
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Okay, now do all of Matthews seasons adjusted to 3.11 per 82 games.
Hint: He has more than 2 60 goal seasons.
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He won’t get any in the 3.11 adjusted column, that doesn’t include pace.
OV was always available to play despite his reckless style of running through everything, first half of his career.
Divine
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He added a pace column for Ovechkin. Why leave it out for Matthews?
Seems quite a one-sided comparison. Can we adjust it for PP time?
Update, he just scored again
64 goals in 75 games
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I feel like he is gonna end up stuck on like 68 goals or something, unless he can throw out a hat trick before the final 2 games.
Divine
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Likely beats both Ovi and McDavid. They both played 82 games too. Matthews is at 75.
Enjoy the best goalscoring season in the last 30 years.
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It will take 70+ to make this season better than Ovechkin's 65 in 08.
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Turin
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Why would I care about PP time? If Ovechkin scored all those goals on the powerplay it would still be the best by a good margin since he did it in 2008.
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Divine
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We really are in a golden era of talent.
So happy the days of Jamie Benn winning scoring titles with 82 points are long past.
Matthews is a better goalscorer than Ovechkin but is also an elite two-way center. A player like him would've been a fever dream in 2014. Insane to see the skillsets of the players develop.
So happy the days of Jamie Benn winning scoring titles with 82 points are long past.
Matthews is a better goalscorer than Ovechkin but is also an elite two-way center. A player like him would've been a fever dream in 2014. Insane to see the skillsets of the players develop.
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Because powerplay goals count? Ovechkin had 43 even strength goals in 2008. 8 more than second place. Anybody who watched Ovechkin that year knows that in this scoring environment he would have blitzed passed 70, likely would have flirted with a goal a game.
Kinda crazy how a ton of these Toronto posters literally are not old enough to have watched the 2008 season. It's so over.
Divine
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PP goals count, so do all goals.
Why are you adjusting for scoring if all goals are the same? Maybe the players are just more talented today?
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