Eh, 60 goals today isn’t as good as some of Ovechkin’s 50+ goal seasons in the 2010s. Though competition is a fair point. As good as Ovechkin was, it was a weak period for goal scoring competition in many of those years. I don’t think winning as many rockets is necessary.
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Eh, 60 goals today isn’t as good as some of Ovechkin’s 50+ goal seasons in the 2010s. Though competition is a fair point. As good as Ovechkin was, it was a weak period for goal scoring competition in many of those years. I don’t think winning as many rockets is necessary.
Sure, but he also played 7 minutes a game on a powerplay with Jagr and Francis at their peaks, then when the powerplays dried up the next season his overall scoring plummeted. Sometimes it’s a positive to be able to score more at ES. If Matthews has over 7 minutes on the powerplay I feel pretty confident he would be closer to the single season goals record than 70-75.
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Matthews could still have the claim as most goals by an American born and trained player.
Hull played college puck but played Junior A in Canada so I don't know if he would even qualify as "American trained"
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I think Francis, 14 years into his career, looked better than he actually was playing alongside those horses.
Lemieux led the NHL in points the following season by basically the exact same margin of points. Overall league scoring plummeted, that's why his production was cut so much.
Funny, but after an NHL team drafts a player, the team that drafts him always lays claim to developing the player.
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Ok?
Doesn't change the fact that Modano's still got the record for US-born players, and Matthews is well on his way to breaking it.
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Jagr had nearly the same points per game as him the next season, same with Lindros. Lemieux’s ES scoring remained nearly the same as well. This is what makes his 1992-93 season so amazing, best even strength scoring rate of all-time and still amazing on the powerplay.
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If your favorite team is playing the leafs, yes there is a good chance at Austin Matthews score some goals but we will also let in as many or more
It's also easier to score in this era compared to when Ovechkin started out in the league.
Agreed since the trap is gone and there are more teams than ever the competition, which is still all world is not nearly as stiff as when there were less team plus AM is one of the tougher players to like based on the fact h plays for the Leafs (ugghh) and has an arrogance to him that Ovi, Gretzky and other superior stars never showed.
I do think the Leafs should plan a parade because he will lead them to a cup either this year or next.
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60 goals today is just impressive. I dont know what world you live in where 60 goals in a season can be considered less than previous seasons. remind me.... how many 60 goal scorers have we seen in the past 10 or even 20 years?
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okay well if scoring is up now, then why have we only seen two 60 goal scorers? shouldn't we have like ALOT more if its so much easier to score now? scoring 60 is still extremely difficult to do,
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He is a Canucks fan. Pettersson is a 20 odd goal scorer through 98% of his career. Average player. He can’t stand that Matthews is the best in the world and no player on his team is in the same universe.
Haha. Yeah right.
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We’ve seen three in the past two seasons and will see another this year.
Ovechkin was the only player to hit 50 goals between 13-14 and 17-18 and he did it three times.
I never said 60 isn’t still extremely difficult to do. Perhaps you shouldn’t jump to conclusions that anything that isn’t blowing smoke up Matthews’ mooning ass is considered criticism. I’m suggesting that if Matthews is going to be considered the greatest goal scorer over Ovechkin, as was the conversation, he might not need as many Rockets, but that scoring 60 isn’t automatically better than Ovechkin winning the Rocket with a massive lead while scoring 50+ in lower scoring seasons.
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okay so how many more goals should Matthews, Pastrnak or McDavid put in to make up then? just seems like your pushing the goal posts here 3 players put 60 in since Stammer and before him Ovechkin. I dont think this is holding up as much as you think it does. very very very low amount of players hitting or exceeding 60.
this thread isn't to say Matthews will finish his career with more goals but more so if it's possible. and the pace he's going at literally makes this conversation possible.
yes he has a long way to go. but his pace and comparing him at the same games played and seeing where Matthews is at. makes it a little interesting does it not?
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Love seeing a troll get trolled by a troll. It’s poetry; like Auston Matthews.
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I was just clarifying what the other poster was saying. “Statistically best years behind him” and “prime” are not mutually exclusive. Give Gretzky’s and Lemieux’s stats a look. They had a statistical peak, followed by a long prime that never matched that peak.
And of course it’s not a fact—what a silly question. And here’s hoping it doesn’t, because this is quite exiting.
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