Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

[SkinsFan09]

I think most people agree that Matthews is the best goal scorer in a long time. But what's annoying is the people that are overly confident that he's got a great shot at being the GOAT.

Guy will be 27 next season and will still be 6 rockets back of Ovechkin.

He has the talent to do so. How he ages will be interesting. And of course injuries.

 

[Drytoast]

TOR 4th G 8th Pts
MTL 8th G 12th Pts
NYR 2nd G 7th Pts
DET 7th G 11th Pts
CHI 5th G 11th Pts
BOS 7th G 12th Pts

Sundin has 420 goals as the Leaf's top goal scorer of all time.

Matthews is at what? 350 now? That's 1 more season. 1 more season and he's gonna surpass Sundin. giving him 2 more season with the Leafs at the least to place a buffer on his record. I don't think he's worried too much with points. That's not his forte.

 

[Peltz]

What else can you say? He's impressive as hell and borderline unstoppable at times.

 

[34]

The post I replied to said he was the greatest player in the NHL, that I disagree with.

As far as this season if folks want to say he should sweep every award, you'll get no argument.

What about 2 seasons ago when he won the Rocket, Hart and Ted Lindsay. Also scored 51 goals in 50 games. 60 goal season. Not good? McDavid was better??

 

[Guinnes66]

Weird that Matthews seamingly never gets any empy net goals every year. He would probably be a lock for 75 if he could pot a few freebies to make life easier on himself. Does matthews not get any time during empty net situations or something? Or are ENGs just a product of luck?

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Sundin has 420 goals as the Leaf's top goal scorer of all time.

Matthews is at what? 350 now? That's 1 more season. 1 more season and he's gonna surpass Sundin. giving him 2 more season with the Leafs at the least to place a buffer on his record. I don't think he's worried too much with points. That's not his forte.

In two to three years he is probably ahead of everyone but Howe, Hull and Yzerman from O6.

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

To be fair to Mario, he got cancer, others he might be the all time leader in goals and even if not 800 would have been a lock.

Not wrong and sucks he got cancer. But that’s kind of my point. When you are more than 500 goals away so much can happen. Injury, rule changes, cancer, bad coach or GM hire, decision being the all time goal scorer doesn’t matter to you.

 

[Spargon]

He was tied for 14-19th in goals and 22nd in points, thats really bad for an elite player in 74 games.

My point was that he's such a good player that 40g is a bad year. Most players would be happy with 40g seasons even in this higher scoring time.

 

[Drytoast]

In two to three years he is probably ahead of everyone but Howe, Hull and Yzerman from O6.

Montreal Rocket Richard 544G
New York Rod Gilbert 406G
Boston Johnny Bucyk 545G
Detroit Gordie Howe 786G
Chicago Bobby Hull 604G
Toronto Sundin 420G

Ya I agree! By the end of next season he will be ahead of Toronto and New York. By the end of this current contract he will probably catch everyone but Howe and Hull.

 

[Duder54]

He is the greatest player in the NHL. Wow.

There are several players I'd pick over Matthews as "best in the NHL", but that shouldn't take anything away from the season he's having. The most exciting goal scorer since prime Ovechkin.

 

[filinski77]

He does have a shot at being the GOAT goal scorer. Absolutely he does.

I'm not denying that he doesn't have a shot. McDavid also has a shot at breaking Gretzky's Ross record... doesn't mean it's anywhere near a good shot or reasonable.

It's the way some fans are acting as if it's a done deal or very likely. Matthews has statistically his best ages behind him, and still needs 6 more rockets after this season. Not that it's not possible, but it's extremely unlikely.

he'll be one rocket ahead of ovechkin at the same age

Your point? What Ovechkin did from 27 onwards is significantly harder than what he did from 20-27 (from a goalscoring perspective).

 

[Confucius]

Weird that Matthews seamingly never gets any empy net goals every year. He would probably be a lock for 75 if he could pot a few freebies to make life easier on himself. Does matthews not get any time during empty net situations or something? Or are ENGs just a product of luck?

What’s really weird is he has hit 15 posts/crossbars already this season. I know I know not even a shot on net but an incredible stat just the same

 

[Dr Pepper]

I'm not denying that he doesn't have a shot. McDavid also has a shot at breaking Gretzky's Ross record... doesn't mean it's anywhere near a good shot or reasonable.

It's the way some fans are acting as if it's a done deal or very likely. Matthews has statistically his best ages behind him, and still needs 6 more rockets after this season. Not that it's not possible, but it's extremely unlikely.


Your point? What Ovechkin did from 27 onwards is significantly harder than what he did from 20-27 (from a goalscoring perspective).

I mean he's more or less got this year's in the bag already, but even if he never won the Rocket again I wouldn't put it past him to still hit 800+.

Dude is remarkably consistent so even if, every season, there was one player who just edged him out for the Rocket, it wouldn't surprise me if Matthews just kept scoring at will.

That said, I bet he'd trade a Rocket or two for some actual team success.

 

[Drytoast]

He is the greatest player in the NHL. Wow.

why do you have to be ridiculous?

 

[Confucius]

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[TeamRenzo]

He is crazy good, best goal scorer in a long time. When all is said and done I bet he is above Ovie in that dept

 

[All Mod Cons]

Stutzle > Matthews last summer.

Never forget.

It is crazy that fans would rather have Stutzle, Thompson, Barzal, Laine, Aho, Larkin or Scheifele than Matthews.

 

[LivingRentFree]

why do you have to be ridiculous?

He’s going to win the Rocket, Hart, Lindsay again (for the 2nd time in 3 years). Will also get Selke votes. I’d say that makes him the best player in the NHL currently.

 

[Voight]

Sundin has 420 goals as the Leaf's top goal scorer of all time.

Matthews is at what? 350 now? That's 1 more season. 1 more season and he's gonna surpass Sundin. giving him 2 more season with the Leafs at the least to place a buffer on his record. I don't think he's worried too much with points. That's not his forte.

I believe as long as he scores 85 points per year (including this season), he'll pass Sundin on the points list before his contracts up as well.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Montreal Rocket Richard 544G
New York Rod Gilbert 406G
Boston Johnny Bucyk 545G
Detroit Gordie Howe 786G
Chicago Bobby Hull 604G
Toronto Sundin 420G

Ya I agree! By the end of next season he will be ahead of Toronto and New York. By the end of this current contract he will probably catch everyone but Howe and Hull.

Win or lose, people really need to sit back and enjoy / realize the rarity of what they are witnessing. Gilmour’s two year peak was probably the greatest individual thing I have seen from a Leaf and I have been watching parts of 6 different decades. Matthews for a long period takes it up a notch.

Guys like Sundin and Clark were great in their own way but the only other one I remember being in this category of awe inspiring was Borje.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Auston Matthews cannot be stopped.

If your favorite team is playing the Leafs, AM is going to wreck you and there's nothing you can do about it.

He is the goal scoring equivalent of Meng from pro wrestling bar fights.

 

[Da Mash]

Hard to score now compared to other era's ......Players now are so much faster and stronger...and goalies are just bigger with bigger equipment.

Hard to compare goal scorer in different era's.

What Mathews is doing is just elite.....makes it look to easy and he is one of the best two way centers in the league. His stats are not as padded as others from the PP either.

Enjoy his greatness like others that have played. So many biased fans that hate are blinded. Imagine if he fought......there would be a statue already of him and all the Don Cherry fans would cheer...

 

[Guinnes66]

I'm not denying that he doesn't have a shot. McDavid also has a shot at breaking Gretzky's Ross record... doesn't mean it's anywhere near a good shot or reasonable.

It's the way some fans are acting as if it's a done deal or very likely. Matthews has statistically his best ages behind him, and still needs 6 more rockets after this season. Not that it's not possible, but it's extremely unlikely.

I don't see a single person saying it's a done deal that Matthews will break the all time goal record. So far Matthews is at least on pace to break the record so it's certainly in the realm of possibility. If mcdavid was ever on pace to break gretzky 215 point season after around 40 games then that would also be talked about as a realistic possibility.

 

[Voight]

What Matthews is doing is indeed special.

But he didn’t beat The Rock and Stone Cold in the same night…

 

[Busher]

If Matthews scores 70 goals this season, that would be historic. It would be a signature season in hockey. Like McDavid’s 153 points last year.

No one has scored 70 goals in over 30 years, and that amount of time represents a massive chunk of all of hockey history. In fact, almost all 70 goal seasons happened from 1981-1993, with one in 1971. And most of them involved Gretzky or Lemieux, or someone who played with Gretzky, Lemieux or Orr.

If you told me 3 years ago someone would score 70 goals; I wouldn’t have believed it. It’s great for hockey. McDavid is shattering thinking of what’s possible with points, and Matthews is shattering thinking of what’s possible with goals.