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No one is comparing Reinhart to Matthews straight up. Absolutely no one.

The mere idea that Reinhart is a great defensive player this season is what is in question here.

What's that got to do with Matthews scoring 68 goals?

Reinhart is a good defensive player. He's also never scored 34 goals before this season. Matthews has never scored under 34 goals in a season in his entire career, including his rookie season and a 52 game season. Completely different players.
 

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What's that got to do with Matthews scoring 68 goals?

Reinhart is a good defensive player. He's also never scored 34 goals before this season. Matthews has never scored under 34 goals in a season in his entire career, including his rookie season and shortened seasons. Completely different players.
Probably started when the Leaf fan claimed that Matthews was better defensively than any other top scorer in the league “by a long shot”… just a theory.

No one is comparing Matthews to Reinhart straight up, or claiming that Reinhart is in the same league as Matthews overall offensively.

Matthews being compared to Mario Lemieux however…
 
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Probably started when the Leaf fan claimed that Matthews was better defensively than any other top scorer in the league “by a long shot”… just a theory.
And those leafs fans would be absolutely correct. Matthews is better than Reinhart at legimately every aspect of hockey. I would have been less insulted if Matthews was compared to Griffin Reinhart, because at least I would know they were joking.
 
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Probably started when the Leaf fan claimed that Matthews was better defensively than any other top scorer in the league “by a long shot”… just a theory.

No one is comparing Matthews to Reinhart straight up, or claiming that Reinhart is in the same league as Matthews overall offensively.

Matthews being compared to Mario Lemieux however…

Most goals in a season since Mario Lemieux scored 69.

It's a fact.
 

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And those leafs fans would be absolutely correct. Matthews is better than Reinhart at legimately every aspect of hockey. I would have been less insulted if Matthews was compared to Griffin Reinhart, because at least I would know they were joking.
Yes, I know Leaf fans believe that Auston Matthews is a Selke level defensive forward, and better than any other top scoring player in the league “by a long shot”.

Most goals in a season since Mario Lemieux scored 69.

It's a fact.
Yes, I know that Leaf fans believe that Auston Matthews and Mario Lemieux are comparable players.
 
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Sam Reinhart: 694 games: 252 goals

In his 10th NHL season, he's scored 252 goals.

Matthews has scored 25% of his career goals this season alone. People are really comparing Reinhart to Matthews? :laugh:
In your haste to post that, you failed to understand that some people were discussing their defensive habilities, not their offensive prowesses.

But to err is human and to forgive is divine, n'est-ce pas ?

Some people will spout out any stupid thing that crosses their mind once in a while.
Evidence #1...
 

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Yes, I know Leaf fans believe that Auston Matthews is a Selke level defensive forward, and better than any other top scoring player in the league “by a long shot”.

I mean it's not crazy talk bud. He gets votes for it near every year, hell he was 10th two years ago. He won't win this year, but he'll be in the names again, while scoring whatever cap-era record number of goals he finishes with. Here's hoping 70.

What is it you dispute about the argument? The voters are wrong? "Long shot" I guess if ones wants to hang the hat on it?

Dude is good on D, recognized by peers and voters. Google it, don't believe me.
 
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I checked this year against 07/08 and it’s 40% difference, not 25%. I also checked the leafs PP opportunities this year vs those Caps and that was 55%. It’s more about accuracy than it is being sexy.

Also of course Ovechkin’s skills had something to do with how they planned their powerplays, I never suggested otherwise. So does coaching philosophy and other factors though. Matthews could play all of every powerplay like Ovie typically did, but he’s not deployed that way.
Great, this year isn’t even over with, so way to be intellectually honest. There’s a ton more games to be played league wide.
 

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Probably started when the Leaf fan claimed that Matthews was better defensively than any other top scorer in the league “by a long shot”… just a theory.

No one is comparing Matthews to Reinhart straight up, or claiming that Reinhart is in the same league as Matthews overall offensively.

Matthews being compared to Mario Lemieux however…
Matthews is certainly up there as one of the best defensive forwards. I think hes 4th in takeaways and doesn't give up any at all.
 

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Probably started when the Leaf fan claimed that Matthews was better defensively than any other top scorer in the league “by a long shot”… just a theory.

No one is comparing Matthews to Reinhart straight up, or claiming that Reinhart is in the same league as Matthews overall offensively.

Matthews being compared to Mario Lemieux however…
I mean, he is, but go ahead and keep being offended lol

Yes, I know Leaf fans believe that Auston Matthews is a Selke level defensive forward, and better than any other top scoring player in the league “by a long shot”.


Yes, I know that Leaf fans believe that Auston Matthews and Mario Lemieux are comparable players.
You sound so bitter it’s hilarious.
 

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I mean, he is, but go ahead and keep being offended lol

You sound so bitter it’s hilarious.
The notion that Auston Matthews is now comparable to Mario Lemieux is honestly the funniest thing I have ever read on this forum. I am grateful to have been able to experience it.
 

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The notion that Auston Matthews is now comparable to Mario Lemieux is honestly the funniest thing I have ever read on this forum. I am grateful to have been able to experience it.
Is there a legit quote for this, like one where some crazy ass Leaf fan suggested AM was in Mario's league? I've never seen one, but bud, let's see it and all laugh at it, because that's a ridiculous assertion.
 

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Is there a legit quote for this, like one where some crazy ass Leaf fan suggested AM was in Mario's league? I've never seen one, but bud, let's see it and all laugh at it, because that's a ridiculous assertion.

Probably started when the Leaf fan claimed that Matthews was better defensively than any other top scorer in the league “by a long shot”… just a theory.

No one is comparing Matthews to Reinhart straight up, or claiming that Reinhart is in the same league as Matthews overall offensively.

Matthews being compared to Mario Lemieux however…

Most goals in a season since Mario Lemieux scored 69.

It's a fact.

Here’s one, right on this page.

You think Mario Lemieux would be scoring around the same as Auston Matthews?

Yes.

Matthews is having one of the best goal scoring seasons ever when era adjusted. I'd expect Lemieux to be right around there - some years higher some years slightly lower.
Here’s another.
 

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This is just getting absolutely insane.

Auston Matthews is not comparable in any way to Mario Lemieux.

What does “some years higher, some years lower” even mean?

Dude obviously Lemieux is a better player than Matthews, he'd be putting up insane point totals in any NHL era.

But Matthews and Ovechkin are generational goal scorers, no different than Hull or Lemieux etc.

Just look at all of the goals Matthews and Ovechkin have scored on MUCH better goaltending.

No player in NHL history will be putting up consistent 70+ goal season in today's NHL, Lemieux included.
And another.
 

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