Auston Matthew 50 in 50 watch (37 in 42 so far)

[bobholly39]

My prediction at start of year wasn't necessarily 50 in 50, but rather 70+ goals overall. He likely falls short of 50 in 50, even though he's putting a hell of a run towards it - but 70 goals seems very real. Would be insane.

 

[Goose]

What blows me away is that there are still people on the site who disagree that he’s on pace to be one of the greatest goal scorers of all time.

Even if he retired today, with only 500 games played or whatever, he’d still be remembered and talked about, probably similar to how people remember Bure as one of the great goal scorers even though he only played 700ish games and never scored 500 goals.

 

[Toby91ca]

What blows me away is that there are still people on the site who disagree that he’s on pace to be one of the greatest goal scorers of all time.

Even if he retired today, with only 500 games played or whatever, he’d still be remembered and talked about, probably similar to how people remember Bure as one of the great goal scorers even though he only played 700ish games and never scored 500 goals.

Don’t disagree, but if he keeps playing and doesn’t produce much year after year he’ll no longer be looked at that way….but yeah, he’s tracking as an all time great goal scorer right now

 

[hatterson]

He’s had streaks that are close to 13 in 7 before, so it’s possible to hit 50 in 50.

Very, very unlikely though.

Still absurdly impressive pace.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Update the title lol

 

[keglu]

Think about it though for like 3 million less we could’ve had Tim Stutzle and another one of Domi’s sons

5m going forward, probably more in few years.

 

[The90]

Yeah, he was 20 goals ahead of #2 Bossy after potting his 50th (and 40 points ahead of #2 Stastny in the scoring race).

50 goals and 108 points through 39 games.

Would finish up with 42 goals and 104 points in his remaining 41 games.

Is that good?

 

[daver]

What blows me away is that there are still people on the site who disagree that he’s on pace to be one of the greatest goal scorers of all time.

Even if he retired today, with only 500 games played or whatever, he’d still be remembered and talked about, probably similar to how people remember Bure as one of the great goal scorers even though he only played 700ish games and never scored 500 goals.

10th in Playoff GPG doesn't help his case.

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[DamonDRW]

What blows me away is that there are still people on the site who disagree that he’s on pace to be one of the greatest goal scorers of all time.

Even if he retired today, with only 500 games played or whatever, he’d still be remembered and talked about, probably similar to how people remember Bure as one of the great goal scorers even though he only played 700ish games and never scored 500 goals.

Contrarily to Bossy, Bure, Ovie, and other great goal scorers he also has an excellent skill of dissappearing in the playoffs.

Give me Claude Lemeaux and keep your Matthews.

 

[The90]

That's worth emphasizing. A lot of people have dismissed Gretzky's best goal-scoring years because the league was much higher scoring than today. True, there were more goals per game - but nobody was even close:

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Gretzky was 67% ahead of the next closest player (Mike Bossy - who was at/near his peak, and universally considered a top ten goal-scorer in NHL history). Granted, there were some weaker players in the top ten, but Gretzky nearly doubled the output of Hall of Famers like Messier, Dionne and Ciccarelli - and he did this while being 1st by far in assists.

Gretzkys records are further ahead than any other sports all time great. There was a great DVD that came out in the mid 2000’s that was called Ultimate Gretzky, went into detail about how far ahead he was to his next closest competitor.

That being said, where would Mario have been with full health?

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[MacMacandBarbie]

What blows me away is that there are still people on the site who disagree that he’s on pace to be one of the greatest goal scorers of all time.

Even if he retired today, with only 500 games played or whatever, he’d still be remembered and talked about, probably similar to how people remember Bure as one of the great goal scorers even though he only played 700ish games and never scored 500 goals.

How does that really blow you away? He is pacing but still really early, if he is pacing this way after 500-600 goals the talks will heat up, but there’s nothing but speculation to suggest he’s going to separate himself from the likes of Stamkos, Iginla, Sakic, etc because it’s just too early to tell

Tbh he doesn’t rely on speed so I can see him compiling similar to Selanne but he simply doesn’t have the shot for me to really see him among the goal scoring GOATs like OV, Mario, Hull, etc. and if I’m being honest, we probably have already seen enough from him to say that even if he passed Bobby or Mario in the leaderboard he would never be considered better than those guys.

 

[WingsFan95]

Gretzkys records are further ahead than any other sports all time great. There was a great DVD that came out in the mid 2000’s that was called Ultimate Gretzky, went into detail about how far ahead he was to his next closest competitor.

That being said, where would Mario have been with full health?

Wilt Chamberlain should really ring a bell if we're looking at obliterating colleagues in league development years. And I know the NHL dated back long before NBA but the truth of the matter is six teams is six teams. Don Hutson in the NFL early days, Jim Brown in their modern era, etc.

The greats are greats for a reason. You can play it both ways with Gretzky. Hockey requiring more further equipment and additional skillset while paying less? That can create a storm of its own and I think Lemieux's accomplishments showcase at least one other legitimate peer meaning Gretzky wasn't a complete outlier by himself, just in career numbers, but then look at Tom Brady in the NFL who very much like Gretzky has arguably unreachable numbers and what's more is one of those is Championships while in Gretzky's era he captured less titles (yes it's unfair but point remains).

 

[Discoverer]

How does that really blow you away? He is pacing but still really early, if he is pacing this way after 500-600 goals the talks will heat up, but there’s nothing but speculation to suggest he’s going to separate himself from the likes of Stamkos, Iginla, Sakic, etc because it’s just too early to tell

Tbh he doesn’t rely on speed so I can see him compiling similar to Selanne but he simply doesn’t have the shot for me to really see him among the goal scoring GOATs like OV, Mario, Hull, etc. and if I’m being honest, we probably have already seen enough from him to say that even if he passed Bobby or Mario in the leaderboard he would never be considered better than those guys.

Through 8 seasons, Sakic had 51 fewer goals than Matthews has now. Iginla had 86 fewer. Stamkos was much closer at just 24 back, but it'll likely be somewhere around 50 back since Matthews still has the rest of the season to go.

You can question whether he'll maintain the separation between them, but there's no question he's already separated himself to this point in their careers.

 

[Lahey]

37 in 42 now

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Through 8 seasons, Sakic had 51 fewer goals than Matthews has now. Iginla had 86 fewer. Stamkos was much closer at just 24 back, but it'll likely be somewhere around 50 back since Matthews still has the rest of the season to go.

You can question whether he'll maintain the separation between them, but there's no question he's already separated himself to this point in their careers.

3 guys that played in some of the lowest scoring eras in league history. Matthews plays in the high flying 80s compared to the late 90s/00s

 

[WingsFan95]

Through 8 seasons, Sakic had 51 fewer goals than Matthews has now. Iginla had 86 fewer. Stamkos was much closer at just 24 back, but it'll likely be somewhere around 50 back since Matthews still has the rest of the season to go.

You can question whether he'll maintain the separation between them, but there's no question he's already separated himself to this point in their careers.

Selanne was a .645 after his 3rd Rocket (7th season)
Bure was .645 after his 3rd Rocket (10th season)
Yzerman was .587 after his 10th season never leading the league (way more games as he missed little time)

 

[Busher]

Selanne was a .645 after his 3rd Rocket (7th season)
Bure was .645 after his 3rd Rocket (10th season)
Yzerman was .587 after his 10th season never leading the league (way more games as he missed little time)

Selanne, Bure and Yzerman are Matthews’ goal scoring comparables.

Those other three (Sakic, Iginla and Stamkos) are not. Matthews has already proven to be a higher caliber goal scorer.

 

[bobholly39]

What blows me away is that there are still people on the site who disagree that he’s on pace to be one of the greatest goal scorers of all time.

Even if he retired today, with only 500 games played or whatever, he’d still be remembered and talked about, probably similar to how people remember Bure as one of the great goal scorers even though he only played 700ish games and never scored 500 goals.

Who disagrees? And also - it depends what you mean by one of the greatest goal-scorers of all-time. Do you mean top ~10-15? Or top ~3-5?

Short of any huge career injury or falling off a cliff dramatically, to me he's going to finish ~10th all-time minimum. But also - anything above 10 is far from guarantee. That's where you get into the Brett Hull or Mike Bossy or some of those guys territory...and that's without even talking of guys like Bobby Hull, Gretzky, Lemieux or Ovechkin.

So ~10th all-time he's on target for.
Top 5? Nope. Maybe if he ages like Ovechkin, but seems unlikely.
Top ~6-9? Maybe. but we'll see.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Through 8 seasons, Sakic had 51 fewer goals than Matthews has now. Iginla had 86 fewer. Stamkos was much closer at just 24 back, but it'll likely be somewhere around 50 back since Matthews still has the rest of the season to go.

You can question whether he'll maintain the separation between them, but there's no question he's already separated himself to this point in their careers.

So are you just talking about statistically, and his ability to pass them on the leaderboard?

Matthews will likely pass Bobby and Mario, but it’s pretty evident he isn’t on their level in goal scoring.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Selanne, Bure and Yzerman are Matthews’ goal scoring comparables.

Those other three (Sakic, Iginla and Stamkos) are not. Matthews has already proven to be a higher caliber goal scorer.

Going to disagree as pre-leg injury Stammer was just as good as Matthews. Let’s hope Matthews doesn’t have something big happen to him, and hope his wrist problems are behind him.

 

[ToDavid]

Probably not happening but man he’s making a fight of it.

 

[kevsh]

50/50 is still very doubtful but what he's doing so far is still incredibly impressive. Looking past that I'm watching to see if he breaks 60 again.

The Leafs have 39 games left for AM to score 23 goals for 60, which means that unless he misses a significant # of games (at least 5+), he's probably getting it.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Probably not happening but man he’s making a fight of it.

if only if only, he learned to play with heart and consistency, probably carry the leafs to a cup. Alas...

 

[Discoverer]

3 guys that played in some of the lowest scoring eras in league history. Matthews plays in the high flying 80s compared to the late 90s/00s

League GAA during their first 8 years
Stamkos 2.58
Iginla 2.59
Matthews 2.82
Sakic 3.31

Sakic's first 8 were '88-'89 to '95-96. Fair on Iginla and Stamkos, since they definitely started off in a lower scoring era, but Matthews era is closer to theirs than it is to Sakic's.

 

[The90]

if only if only, he learned to play with heart and consistency, probably carry the leafs to a cup. Alas...

He’s the most consistent goal scorer since he entered the league lol. He’s scored the most goals, but he’s also scored in the most games of anyone else