Attendance changes so far this season

TheBeerNerd

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I remember it had those boards with the blue kickplates for a while, too. I miss when arenas had little character things that set them apart, like the boards at Montreal Forum looking like some guy made them out of wood in his basement

Ghettolands arena is probably a lot brighter place today. I believe it's a shopping mall or something like that
The arena is still standing but I think it's exclusively used as a tune-up place for bands playing at MetLife. And yeah, the American Dream Mall is there. It's not much but it does have a good indoor water park.
 
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Ratsreign

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No.

Saw I think as low as 16,000 this month (usually 17,000 to 18,000 plus.)

Plus, aren't some games 18,000 plus and some games over 19,000? Not sure if 19,000 is even possible anymore, as maybe seating was reduced with perhaps any offseason remodeling?

Wild has a certain sellout figure -- but I don't think I've ever seen any game there listed as that. Maybe 18,292 then 18,555 then 18,094 then 17,654, etc. I think only 16,000 recently.

Most teams have a set sellout figure though a few don't, as maybe some arenas offer standing room and others don't?

...

Panthers this year have ranged between 17,000 and 19,000 plus... but I think capacity is 17,000 plus...so it allows standing room?
Panthers arena seats 19,000
 

Ratsreign

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Isn't it all NBA Timberwolves now after their great season and multiple Wild disappointments?

Timberwolves sold out every game last year and so far this year. I don't think that's ever happened...maybe when an expansion team and a novelty long ago?

Wild never had that competition from Timberwolves in recent times, as Wolves were irrelevant for so long and drawing as few as 11,000-12,000 on some weeknights.

Wild missed playoffs, so I'm sure they lost season ticket holders, especially after the sudden Timberwolves success and good playoff run.

Walkups likely can't compensate, especially in early season even with a great start.
It’s also football season. The Vikings are doing well so far this year.
 

FunkySeeFunkyDo

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There are only 7 American NHL MSA’s smaller than Pittsburgh and 7 American NHL teams have less attendance, so despite the drop, Pittsburgh is doing fine. Replace Guentzel with Gryzlck in your team’s top 5 TOI and see how their attendance does.
 
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Hockey4Lyfe

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Minnesota seems weird given how high they fly this year.


Aren`t steelers home games always sold out anyway?
Pittsburgh is first and foremost a NFL city. Penguins and Pirates will always take back seats to them.

And yes, Steelers home games have been sold out since like the 70’s or some ridiculous year like that.
 

freakydallas13

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People are tired of watching this coach go out and do the same thing over and over again with different players.

It's hard to care when the organization is telling you they don't care.

But hey, come watch Sid and Malkin end their careers.
Falls pretty hollow complaining about your generational stars being old when many teams have never had one in the first place.
 

StreetHawk

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Fans will still show up if the team tries and ownership cares. But when fans see ownership doesn't care and prioritizes the coach over all else but acts like they care about winning and you see teams fire their coaches for doing less shit than Sullivan has and Sullivan somehow still survives, fans get sick of it.

Pens fans are still showing up but it's dropping. It's hard to care when the ownership doesn't care enough to fire Sullivan and push for a change to get back to winning.

They wax poetic about if you don't have a Sullivan you're looking for a Sullivan and that isn't specifically Mike Sullivan. It's finding a coach that can make the same impact and there's several. Mike Sullivan wasn't a Mike Sullivan when he was hired, they thought Mike Johnston was the next Bylsma for 2009. He wasn't. Then Sullivan had 2015-2017 with Tocchet. He's now the new Bylsma. So that comment is bs the way it's misconstrued.

There's a next Sully/Bylsma. It could be Montgomery, Nelson, literally anyone else but what Sullivan has become since 2017-18.
Pens will be dropping in the standings and will be a bad team in the coming years. Rest of the 202X's is not going to look great for them. They will price their tickets to maximize revenue.

I don't expect teams that were down last season or prior couple of years to suddenly see a massive uptick in attendance this season through 9/10 home games. Those fans would want to see if it's sustainable or just a good run.
 

Honour Over Glory

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Pens will be dropping in the standings and will be a bad team in the coming years. Rest of the 202X's is not going to look great for them. They will price their tickets to maximize revenue.
If they keep Sullivan, they will.

If they fire Sullivan, they won't. It's quite literally that simple.
I don't expect teams that were down last season or prior couple of years to suddenly see a massive uptick in attendance this season through 9/10 home games. Those fans would want to see if it's sustainable or just a good run.
Pens attendance has dropped since 2019, it doesn't look to be bouncing back because fans are disillusioned to believing ownership wants to ice a competitive team, Sullivan keeps getting his rosters overhauled and the team continuously looks worse, worse teams have better attendance because at least there's some fun to the games and there's less expectations other than "we just want to try not to suck" vs "We think this team is a playoff contender" and then keep Sullivan and see him doing the same dumb shit and fans are getting wise to it and sick of it.
 

gojetsgo

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Jets avg attendance 23/24 13490
Jets avg attendance 24/25 13910


increase 3.11%
it's almost as if these numbers are based on november of last season 11,874 and november of this season 13,764 which is an increase of 15.9%, congrats on your first post though...
 

stats1

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Pittsburgh f***ing blows tbh. Unless they’re winning they don’t show up. Just wait until the rebuild starts. It’ll go back to the old igloo days. It’s actually pathetic
 
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tmg

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I think the Metlife game from last year is skewing those numbers because I think they have sold out almost every home game they have had so far.

Speaking of games in atypical places skewing numbers … both Buffalo and New Jersey being near the bottom makes me wonder if the handling of the Prague games is mucking with the attendance numbers.
 

BB79

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Until they pick McKenna first overall
They already had McKenna

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Speaking of games in atypical places skewing numbers … both Buffalo and New Jersey being near the bottom makes me wonder if the handling of the Prague games is mucking with the attendance numbers.
I'm thinking it's more inflation taking people's recreational spending down a notch. $7 for eggs sucks. Buffalo being a rustbelt city and metro NYC isn't cheap
 

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