Athletic: Dubas Job on the Line this Season (contract expiring after this season)

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You doubt what? He was asked about it because it was out there.
I doubt that he not signing an extension diminishes him. He was asked about the extension after he brought it up. The first question to him was " ... Why have you decided not to sign an extension until the end of the season if one is even forthcoming?"
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I doubt that he not signing an extension diminishes him. He was asked about the extension after he brought it up. The first question to him was " ... Why have you decided not to sign an extension until the end of the season if one is even forthcoming?"
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Then why did he extend Keefe so didn’t have to worry about it?

Just accept it.
 
The NHL and particularly the Toronto Maple Leafs who are a fortune 500 company are not a training on the job organization.

There is no need to suffer as an organization, when Management costs is not a part of the Salary Cap, and you can spend as much and higher the best people for the job.

"Sports is a results oriented business" and when you can identify management inexperience and constant mistakes as the #1 downfall of the organization then the answer is clear.
 
Dubas when he wins round 1 game 7 OT against the Bruins
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The NHL and particularly the Toronto Maple Leafs who are a fortune 500 company are not a training on the job organization.

There is no need to suffer as an organization, when Management costs is not a part of the Salary Cap, and you can spend as much and higher the best people for the job.

"Sports is a results oriented business" and when you can identify management inexperience and constant mistakes as the #1 downfall of the organization then the answer is clear.
Obviously, that is why Nonis, Burke, Lou and Babcock were let go. Perhaps Dubas won't get an extention- he is in the last year of his contract after all, or he might leave on his own accord.
 
I doubt that he not signing an extension diminishes him. He was asked about the extension after he brought it up. The first question to him was " ... Why have you decided not to sign an extension until the end of the season if one is even forthcoming?"
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In my opinion he spoke perfectly on each point

Also in my opinion he has his serious face on.. that was well done
 
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Dubas gave Keefe an extension so he didn’t have the uncertainty over his head, quite the statement Shanny is fine with it.

I know it will be rationalized away, well here anyways, but having this out in the public really diminishes Dubas. To my mind, it also means Shanahan is going to be more hands on this season.
Feels like a bit of an olive branch to frustrated fans after how things were handled post loss six.
 
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His negotiating position will be improved by orders of magnitude if this ends up being the team’s breakthrough season. And even if it doesn’t, ownership would be taking a massive risk by cutting ties with Dubas on the precipice of a summer where Auston Matthews is eligible to sign his own extension.

Dubas has a strong relationship with the reigning Hart Trophy winner and his agent Judd Moldaver. They’ve already engaged in some degree of dialogue about the path ahead. Everyone is comfortable with the process.
It was not insignificant that Matthews showed up at training camp and spoke so glowingly without prompting about the team and the city, saying “I consider it home now.”

Remember that he essentially has full control over the circumstances surrounding his next contract since it can’t officially be signed until July 1, 2023 – the same day his no-movement clause kicks in.

Given what Matthews means to the organization and the positive undertones about his future here, it would hardly seem sensible to introduce a new GM into the mix weeks before the Leafs need his signature on a deal.
 
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I have a feeling this is more of an indictment on Shanahan than Dubas.

Overall the team has improved on and off the ice, underlying stats and in the standings. I think yes the playoff failures are a factor but I think there is a bigger factor at play.

Dubas is Shannys guy, but so was Babcock. Best coach in the NHL when he was hired and Leafs are now paying him 20m to not coach the team. Perhaps the board is taking time and waiting until after the playoffs before giving thr go ahead for this group.
 


Good no extension is deserved right now. The Dubas Ass kissers, and there are A LOT of you here can talk all they want about 54 wins, 115 points, 2021 regular season division title etc.

His regular season record is spectacular.

The problem is it's the regular season and this isn't 2017 the regular season doesn't mean shit at this point.

The reality is Kyle Dubas will be judged by his playoff record and by that standard Kyle Dubas has been a failure.

Kyle Dubas was GIFT WRAPPED the most talented core in the history of the franchise and he's done Jack shit with it.

Maybe this year they break through, go on ao on a deep run and his job is saved and he's given a 3 year extension and if that happens great he will have earned it.

But as of today he's a failure because he has ZERO NHL playoff success and this much talent you can't do that.

Also if he does get that extension and doesn't get Matthews signed then he should be fired immediately

One other thing Shanny isn't far behind either, I think he's got a little more rope but not much he probably gets to hire 1 new GM and coach and that's it.
 
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I have a feeling this is more of an indictment on Shanahan than Dubas.

Overall the team has improved on and off the ice, underlying stats and in the standings. I think yes the playoff failures are a factor but I think there is a bigger factor at play.

Dubas is Shannys guy, but so was Babcock. Best coach in the NHL when he was hired and Leafs are now paying him 20m to not coach the team. Perhaps the board is taking time and waiting until after the playoffs before giving thr go ahead for this group.
I agree .the board likely presented Shanahan with a question on why should they extend anyone ?
It's not like DUBAS AND SHANAHAN invented hockey
The boards job is to constantly be reassured that the very best people run this hockey club
Right now they a have a team that can't win in the playoffs.
Their job is to research the league and compare other franchises with similar payroll and decide if they are missing something
The non tender of an extension is rare , but it's was Shanahan that was likely closer to being fired than Dubas
 
That's because you and other members of the cult of Kyle Dubas are OK with failure if you weren't you would have been calling for his job after 2021 against Montreal.

You didn't because you and others like you are OK with failure
I am not in your cult. I have no interest in the cult you just made up. Don't try to recruit me.
 
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The core is "unique" in the fact that they are the only core in NHL history to have lost in the first round of the playoffs 6 years in a row.

So yeah, "unique".


This ain't no party
This ain't no disco
This ain't no foolin' around.
How many current teams have been in the playoffs the last 6 years in a row?
 
How many current teams have been in the playoffs the last 6 years in a row?
current active streaks

Pens 16 years
Nashville 8 years
Caps 8 years
Leafs 6 years
Bruins 6 years
Tampa and Colorado are at 5 ( not quite 6 but they have some hardware to make up for the missing season).
 
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The impression I got from yesterday's presser: for the first time in a while Dubas seemed uncomfortable in his lame duck/no contract status. It actually made me feel a little different about him and Shanny. The training wheels for Shanny/Kyle/Keefe are finally off!
 
That's because you and other members of the cult of Kyle Dubas are OK with failure
There is no "cult of Dubas", and nobody is okay with failure. Most just understand that there's a lot more than just the team's contextless "series wins" that goes into evaluating a GM's performance, and making counterproductive moves because you're disappointed in past series outcomes doesn't help future results.
 
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