ATD 2024 Draft Thread II

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ATD 2024: The 20th Anniversary Edition

The all-time draft is a what-if scenario, the counterfactual reasoning tool of the academic discipline of History. The greatest players of all time, from the amateur era to the NHL to the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Sweden, WHA, etc are drafted BASED on their whole career. No peak vs. career; instead, peak and career, all considerations. A player who was injury prone will be no less so in an all-time competition.

GMs are encouraged to provide bio info like stats, quotes and/or comments when at the podium to announce their picks.

(NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!)

Note for new GMs:
Active players today in the 2023-2024 season are judged BASED on their career to date, meaning no projections of what he will do in the future, but instead: Imagine they suffered a freak career-ending accident the day you draft them.

The draft clock will begin Monday, February 5th at noon Eastern. The 1st round clock will be 24 hours long, dropping to 12 hours for round 2.

2). Time Limits.

24 hrs for round 1
12 for round 2
10 for rounds 3-10
8 for 11-14
6 for 15-20
4 for rest.

There will be 24 rounds, with 18 starting skaters, 2 goalies, a coach and three others for the bench. After the draft there will be votes tallied by an ex-ATDer or mod and a regular season standings list resulting. Then playoff match-ups.

Time Deductions
Voight -2 hour
The Macho Man -2 hour
Claude The Fraud -1 hour
ResilientBeast & rmartin65 -1 hour

Round 1:

1. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Bobby Orr, D
2. tony d - California Golden Seals - Gordie Howe, RW
3. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Wayne Gretzky, C
4. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Mario Lemieux, C
5. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Doug Harvey, D
6. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires- Jean Beliveau, C
7. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Raymond Bourque, D
8. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Nicklas Lidstrom, D
9. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Denis Potvin, D
10. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Eddie Shore, D
11. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Sidney Crosby, C
12. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Bobby Hull, LW
13. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Maurice Richard, RW
14. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Red Kelly, D/C
15. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Howie Morenz, C
16. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Connor McDavid, C
17. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Mark Messier, C
18. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Larry Robinson, D
19. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Dominik Hasek, G
20. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Patrick Roy, G
21. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Viacheslav Fetisov, D
22. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Jaromir Jagr, RW
23. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Guy Lafleur, RW

Round 2:

24. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Alexander Ovechkin, W
25. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Chris Chelios, D
26. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Sergei Makarov, RW
27. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Stan Mikita, C
28. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Brad Park, D
29. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Bobby Clarke, C
30. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Frank Nighbor, C
31. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brian Leetch, D
32. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Paul Coffey, D
33. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bryan Trottier, C
34. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Ted Lindsay, LW
35. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - King Clancy, D
36. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Jacques Plante, G
37. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Bill Cook, RW
38. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Joe Sakic, C
39. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Chris Pronger, D
40. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Phil Esposito, C
41. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Mike Bossy, RW
42. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
43. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Al MacInnis, D
44. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Scott Stevens, D
45. tony d - California Golden Seals - Steve Yzerman, C
46. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Frank Boucher, C

Round 3:

47. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Charlie Conacher, RW
48. tony d - California Golden Seals - Sprague Cleghorn, D
49. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Zdeno Chara, D
50. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Pierre Pilote, D
51. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Martin Brodeur, G
52. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Earl Seibert, D
53. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Henri Richard, C
54. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Milt Schmidt, C
55. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
56. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Peter Forsberg, C
57. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Tim Horton, D
58. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Glenn Hall, G
59. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Dit Clapper, D/RW
60. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Ken Dryden, G
61. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Bernie Geoffrion, RW
62. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Jari Kurri, RW
63. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Terry Sawchuk, G
64. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Newsy Lalonde, C
65. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Syl Apps, C
66. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Borje Salming, D
67. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Ted Kennedy, C
68. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Bill Gadsby, D
69. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Eddie Gerard, D/LW

Round 4:

70. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Victor Hedman, D
71. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Anatoli Firsov, LW
72. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Vladislav Tretiak, G
73. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Evgeni Malkin, C
74. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Duncan Keith, D
75. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Andy Bathgate, RW
76. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Cy Denneny, LW
77. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Drew Doughty, D
78. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Dickie Moore, LW
79. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brett Hull, RW
80. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Serge Savard, D
81. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Elmer Lach, C
82. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Aurele Joliet, LW
83. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Sid Abel, C/LW
84. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Teemu Selanne, RW
85. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Boris Mikhailov, RW
86. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Erik Karlsson, D
87. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Mark Howe, D
88. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Nikita Kucherov, RW
89. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Jarome Iginla, RW
90. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Rob Blake, D
91. tony d - California Golden Seals - Sergei Fedorov, C
92. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Patrick Kane, RW

Round 5:

93. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Scott Niedermayer, D
94. tony d - California Golden Seals - Jack Stewart, D
95. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Pavel Bure, RW
96. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Rod Langway, D
97. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Guy Lapointe, D
98. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires- Toe Blake, LW
99. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Frank Mahovlich, LW
100. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Alex Delvecchio, LW/C
101. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Shea Weber, D
102. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Bill Quackenbush, D
103. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Marcel Pronovost, D
104. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Martin St. Louis, RW
105. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Frank Brimsek, G
106. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Georges Boucher, D
107. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Valeri Vasiliev, D
108. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Johnny Bucyk, LW
109. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Jacques Laperriere, D
110. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Georges Vezina, G
111. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Ivan Johnson, D
112. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Alexei Kasatonov, D
113. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Vladimir Krutov, LW
114. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Ebbie Goodfellow, D/C
115. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Norm Ullman, C

Round 6:

116. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW
117. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Marcel Dionne, C
118. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Doug Bentley, LW/C
119. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Tommy Phillips, LW
120. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Brad Marchand, LW
121. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Hod Stuart, D
122. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Moose Johnson, D
123. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bryan Hextall Sr, RW
124. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS- Joe Malone, C
125. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brendan Shanahan, LW
126. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Harry Cameron, D
127. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Lionel Conacher, D
128. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Eric Lindros, C
129. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Charlie Gardiner, G
130. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Doug Gilmour, C
131. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - JC Tremblay, D
132. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Busher Jackson, LW
133. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Henrik Zetterberg, LW/C
134. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Sweeney Schriner, LW
135. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - John Leclair, LW
136. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Dave Keon, C
137. tony d - California Golden Seals - Syd Howe, LW/C
138. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Hooley Smith, C/RW

Round 7:

139. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Art Coulter, D
140. tony d - California Golden Seals - Turk Broda, G
141. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Patrice Bergeron, C
142. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Marian Hossa, RW
143. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Russell Bowie, C
144. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Ed Belfour, G
145. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Clint Benedict, G
146. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Bill Durnan, G
147. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Mark Recchi, RW
148. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Vladimir Martinec, RW
149. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Cam Neely, RW
150. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Bert Olmstead, LW
151. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Max Bentley, C
152. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Nathan Mackinnon, C
153. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
154. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Emile Bouchard, D
155. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Babe Siebert, D/LW
156. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Paul Kariya, LW
157. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Pavel Datsyuk, C
158. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Rick Middleton, RW
159. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Jan Suchy, D
160. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Ron Francis, C
161. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Mike Modano, C

Round 8:

162. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jonathan Toews, C
163. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Nels Stewart, C/LW
164. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Frantisek Pospisil, D
165. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Lanny McDonald, RW
166. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Bob Gainey, LW
167. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Sylvio Mantha, D
168. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Tom Johnson, D
169. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Patrik Elias, LW
170. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Larry Murphy, D
171. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Harry Howell, D
172. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Anze Kopitar, C
173. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Carl Brewer, D
174. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Bill White, D
175. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Baldy Northcott, LW
176. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Luc Robitaille, LW
177. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Bill Cowley, C
178. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Ken Reardon. D
179. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Frank Fredrickson, C
180. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Lester Patrick, D
181. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Michel Goulet, LW
182. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Alexander Yakushev, LW
183. tony d - California Golden Seals - Sergei Zubov, D
184. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Jamie Benn, LW

Round 9:

185. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Allan Stanley, D
186. tony d - California Golden Seals - Roy Conacher, LW
187. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
188. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Rod Brind'amour, C/LW
189. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Paul Thompson, LW
190. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Brent Burns, D/RW
191. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Fern Flaman, D
192. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Frank Foyston, LW/C
193. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Alex Pietrangelo, D
194. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Peter Stastny, C
195. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Woody Dumart, LW
196. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Cecil Dillon, RW
197. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Frank McGee, C
198. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Scotty Bowman, coach
199. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Adam Oates, C
200. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Steven Stamkos, C/RW
201. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Bob Pulford, LW/C
202. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Reg Noble, LW/C
203. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Alf Smith, RW
204. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Cale Makar, D
205. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Al Arbour, Coach
206. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - George Armstrong, RW
207. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jimmy Thomson, D

Round 10:

208. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Roman Josi, D
209. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Toe Blake, Coach
210. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Vladimir Petrov, C
211. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Weldy Young, D
212. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Claude Provost, RW
213. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Doug Wilson, D
214. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Didier Pitre, RW/D
215. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bernie Parent, G
216. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Herb Gardiner, D
217. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Keith Tkachuk, LW
218. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Theoren Fleury, RW
219. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Jean Ratelle, C
220. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Babe Dye, RW
221. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Lester Patrick, Coach
222. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
223. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Brad McCrimmon, D
224. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Rod Gilbert, RW
225. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Dany Heatley, W
226. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Harvey Pulford, D
227. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Johnny Bower, G
228. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Eric Desjardins, D
229. tony d - California Golden Seals - Steve Larmer, RW
230. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Joe Thornton, C

Round 11:

231. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Tommy Ivan, coach
232. tony d - California Golden Seals - Red Horner, D
233. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Bill Barber, LW
234. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Mats Sundin, C
235. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Marty Barry, C
236. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Jacques Lemaire, C
237. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Glen Sather, coach
238. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Helmuts Balderis, RW
239. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Tony Esposito, G
240. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Derian Hatcher, D
241. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Auston Matthews, C
242. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Lionel Hitchman, D
243. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - George Hay, LW
244. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Hap Day, D
245. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Hugh Lehman, G
246. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Jon Cooper, coach
247. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Punch Broadbent, RW
248. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Guy Carbonneau, C
249. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Jack Crawford, D
250. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Markus Naslund, LW
251. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Igor Larionov, C
252. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Corey Perry, RW
253. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Hap Day, Coach

Round 12:

254. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Andrei Vasilevskiy, G
255. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Jack Campbell, D
256. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Sergei Gonchar, D
257. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Cooney Weiland, C
258. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Mike Gartner, RW
259. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Fred Shero, coach
260. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Herbie Lewis, LW
261. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Art Ross, D
262. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Jere Lehtinen, RW/LW
263. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Rick Tocchet, RW
264. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Dave Taylor, RW
265. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Marty Pavelich, LW
266. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Pat Stapleton, D
267. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Jiri Holik, LW
268. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Ryan Getzlaf, C
269. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Anatoly Tarasov, coach
270. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Gordie Drillon, RW
271. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Mickey Mackay, C/RW
272. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Bernie Morris, RW/C
273. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Vladimir Lutchenko, D
274. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Billy Smith, G
275. tony d - California Golden Seals - Craig Ramsay, LW
276. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Gordon Roberts, RW

Round 13:

277. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Grant Fuhr, G
278. tony d - California Golden Seals - Tommy Gorman, coach
279. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Claude Giroux, C/LW
280. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Jack Walker, C/LW
281. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Tony Leswick, RW/LW
282. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires- Ryan Suter, D
283. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Duke Keats, C
284. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Johnny Gottselig, LW
285. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Ryan Kesler, C/RW
286. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Joe Simpson, D
287. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Dean Prentice, LW
288. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Vyacheslav Starshinov, C
289. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Alex Ragulin, D
290. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Darryl Sittler, C
291. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Pete Green, coach
292. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Nicklas Backstrom, C
293. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Don Marshall, LW/C
294. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Glenn Anderson, W
295. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Jeremy Roenick, C
296. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Ace Bailey, RW
297. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Vaclav Nedomansky, C/RW
298. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Bun Cook, LW
299. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Larry Aurie, RW

Round 14:

300. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - John Tonelli, LW
301. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Ralph Backstrom C
302. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Ed WestFall, RW
303. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Dick Irvin Sr, Coach
304. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Ilya Kovalchuk, W
305. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Brian Propp, LW
306. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Leon Draisaitl, C
307. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bobby Rousseau, RW
308. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Esa Tikkanen, LW
309. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Clark Gillies, LW
310. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Cecil Hart, coach
311. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - John Madden, C/LW
312. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Mike Peca, C
313. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Neil Colville, C
314. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Kris Letang, D
315. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Pit Lepine, C
316. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Joe Klukay, W
317. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Bob Goldham, D
318. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Claude Lemieux, RW
319. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Dave Poulin, C
320. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Zigmund Palffy, RW
321. tony d - California Golden Seals - Moose Vasko, D
322. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Jim Schoenfeld, D

Round 15:

323. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Artemi Panarin, LW
324. tony d - California Golden Seals - Gilbert Perreault, C
325. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Pat Burns, coach
326. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Gus Mortson, D
327. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Mike Grant, D
328. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Smokey Harris, LW
329. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - David Pastrnak, RW
330. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Cy Wentworth, D
331. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Wayne Cashman, W
332. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Jimmy Ward, RW
333. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Adam Foote, D
334. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Teppo Numminen, D
335. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Sergei Kapustin, LW
336. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Flash Hollet, D
337. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Alexander Mogilny, RW
338. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Don Luce, C
339. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Babe Pratt, D
340. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Dale Hawerchuk, C
341. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Bobby Baun, D
342. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Joe Hall, D
343. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Eric Nesterenko, RW
344. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Nick Metz, LW/C
345. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Steve Shutt, LW

Round 16:

346. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Joe Pavelski, C/RW
347. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Henrik Lundqvist, G
348. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Red Dutton, D
349. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Dave Andreychuk, LW
350. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Ryan O'Reilly, C
351. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Frank Finnigan, RW
352. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Jack Darragh, RW
353. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Don Marcotte, F
354. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Kevin Lowe, D
355. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mark Giordano, D
356. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Frank Patrick, D
357. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Joe Mullen, RW
358. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Dirk Graham, RW
359. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Kevin Hatcher, D
360. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Phil Housley, D
361. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Reggie Leach, RW
362. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Joel Otto, C
363. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Vincent Damphousse, LW/C
364. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Bobby Bauer, RW
365. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Zach Parise, LW
366. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Pat Lafontaine, C
367. tony d - California Golden Seals - Tony Amonte, RW
368. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Ken Mosdell, C

Round 17:

369. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Dan Boyle, D
370. tony d - California Golden Seals - Steve Kasper, C
371. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - John Carlson, D
372. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Art Ross, coach
373. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Punch Imlach, coach
374. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Barry Trotz, coach
375. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Mark Stone, RW
376. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Edgar Laprade, C
377. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Rene Robert, RW
378. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Matthew Tkachuk, LW
379. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Lloyd Cook, D
380. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Joel Quenneville, coach
381. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Allan Cameron, D
382. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mitch Marner, RW
383. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Ted Green, D
384. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bill Hajt, D
385. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Blake Wheeler, RW
386. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Rusty Crawford, F/D
387. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Ken Hitchcock, coach
388. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Jerry Toppazzini, RW
389. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Gary Roberts, LW
390. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Art Duncan, D
391. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Roy Worters, G

Round 18:

392. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Aleksander Barkov, C
393. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Brian Rolston, F
394. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Derek Sanderson, C
395. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Jiri Holecek, G
396. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Bob Nevin, RW
397. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Peter Bondra, RW
398. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Joe Nieuwendyk, C
399. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Kevin Stevens, LW
400. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Doug Jarvis, C
401. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mats Naslund, LW/C
402. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - George Hainsworth, G
403. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Tim Kerr, RW
404. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Daniel Sedin, LW
405. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Connor Hellebuyck, G
406. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Darryl Sutter, coach
407. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Owen Nolan, RW
408. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Roberto Luongo, G
409. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Doug Mohns, D/LW
410. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Jack Marshall, D/C
411. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Brian Rafalski, D
412. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Gary Suter, D
413. tony d - California Golden Seals - Curtis Joseph, G
414. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Vic Stasiuk, W

Round 19:

415. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Blair Russel, LW
416. tony d - California Golden Seals - Jiri Bubla, D
417. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Ed Litzenberger, RW/C
418. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Vladimir Vikulov, C/RW
419. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Bob Bourne, F
420. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Gilles Tremblay, LW
421. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - PK Subban, D
422. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Dick Duff, LW
423. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Denis Savard, C
424. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Leo Reise Jr, D
425. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Roger Neilson, coach
426. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Rick Nash, LW
427. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Dolly Swift, F
428. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brent Sutter, C
429. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Pekka Rinne, G
430. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Floyd Curry, RW
431. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Leo Boivin, D
432. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Ryan McDonagh, D
433. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Gump Worsley, G
434. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Butch Goring, C
435. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Mike Ramsey, D
436. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Eddie Oatman, RW/D
437. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Terry Harper, D

Round 20:

438. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jim Neilson, D
439. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Rod Flett, D
440. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Tiny Thompson, G
441. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Vitali Davydov, D
442. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Mark Tinordi, D
443. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Ott Heller, D
444. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Gennadiy Tsygankov, D
445. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brent Seabrook, D
446. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Patrick Sharp, W
447. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brad Richards, C/RW
448. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Red Sullivan, C
449. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Brian Campbell, D
450. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Shane Doan, RW
451. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Dan Bain, C
452. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Taylor Hall, LW
453. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Jean-Guy Talbot, D
454. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Glen Harmon, D
455. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Ken Randall, RW/D
456. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Fleming Mackell, F
457. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Carey Price, G
458. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Wendel Clark, LW
459. tony d - California Golden Seals - Danny Gare, RW
460. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Hap Holmes, G

Round 21:

461. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Scotty Davidson, F
462. tony d - California Golden Seals - Jimmy Watson, D
463. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Jonathan Quick, G
464. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Sid Smith, LW
465. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Si Griffis, D/C
466. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Eddie Giacomin, G
467. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Rick Martin, LW
468. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Harry Lumley, G
469. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Miikka Kiprusoff, G
470. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Phil Watson, C/RW
471. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Odie Cleghorn, RW
472. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Ben Bishop, G
473. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Marian Gaborik, RW
474. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Alec Connell, G
475. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Charlie Simmer, LW
476. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Tuukka Rask, G
477. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Terry O'Reilly, RW
478. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Dickie Boon, D
479. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Tommy Dunderdale, C
480. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Brian Sutter, LW
481. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Kirk Muller, LW/C
482. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Chuck Rayner, G
483. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bob Davidson, LW

Round 22:

484. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Barry Beck, D
485. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Billy Reay, coach
486. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Kent Nilsson, C
487. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Rat Westwick, F
488. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Gabriel Landeskog, LW
489. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Tom Barrasso, G
490. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Peter Laviolette, coach
491. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Dustin Byfuglien, D/F
492. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Adam Fox, D
493. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Wally Stanowski, D
494. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Shirley Davidson, F
495. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Vincent Lecavalier, C
496. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Marc-André Fleury, G
497. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Andrei Markov, D
498. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Bernie Federko, C
499. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Wade Redden, D
500. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Henrik Sedin, C
501. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Ernie Russell, RW/C
502. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Bob Johnson, coach
503. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Pierre Turgeon, C (Dropped for Dale Hunter)
504. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Justin Williams, RW
505. tony d - California Golden Seals - Patrick Marleau, LW/C
506. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmead Lunas - Lennart Svedberg, D

Round 23:

507. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - David Backes, C/RW
508. tony d - California Golden Seals - John Tavares, C
509. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Milan Novy, C
510. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Robert Svehla, D
511. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Percy LeSueur, G
512. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Sandis Ozolinsh, D
513. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Willie Mitchell, D
514. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Arkady Chernyshev, coach
515. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Steve Duchesne, D
516. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Bobby Holik, C
517. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Camille Henry, LW/C
518. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Albert Leduc, D
519. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Fred Higginbotham, D
520. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Jordan Staal, C/RW
521. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Johnny Gaudreau, LW
522. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Trevor Linden, C/RW
523. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Joe Primeau, C
524. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Ken Hodge, RW
525. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Bucko McDonald, D
526. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Viktor Kuzkin, D
527. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Randy Carlyle, D
528. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Marty Walsh, C
529. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Walt Tkaczuk, C

Round 24:

530. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Réjean Houle, F
531. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Walter Smaill, D/LW/C
532. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Pat Verbeek, RW
533. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Bob McDougall, F
534. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Sebastian Aho, LW/C
535. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Alex Kovalev, RW
536. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Rogatien Vachon, G
537. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bobby Rowe, D/RW
538. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Kris Draper, C
539. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gaye Stewart, F
540. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Chauncey Kirby, F
541. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Ondrej Palat, LW
542. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Hamby Shore, D
543. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Brady Tkachuk, LW
544. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Doug Weight, C
545. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Ron Ellis, RW
546. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Mikko Rantanen, RW
547. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Eric Staal, C/LW
548. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Jack Adams, C/LW
549. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Phil Kessel, RW
550. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Carol Vadnais, D
551. tony d - California Golden Seals - Todd Bertuzzi, W
552. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmead Lunas - Mitch Korn, goalie coach

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[jigglysquishy]

Can clocks get reduced more that 4 hours? I'm trying to figure out if I need to send a list or if I'll pick before going to bed.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Can clocks get reduced more that 4 hours? I'm trying to figure out if I need to send a list or if I'll pick before going to bed.

4 hours is the minimum for everyone, regardless of clock penalties.

 

[nabby12]

Flett?

Winnipeg Victorias legend.

Great pick and nice to see the three-time Stanley Cup winning Victorias get some love.

 

[VanIslander]

Can clocks get reduced more that 4 hours?

Never less than 4 hours... the 7th dman and 13th forward are still valuable, in terms of hockey history role, and in term of honoring. As are p/t backup goalies, ass. coaches, goons, etc.

 

[jigglysquishy]

Anyone want to take a list then?

 

[tinyzombies]

Winnipeg Victorias legend.

Great pick and nice to see the three-time Stanley Cup winning Victorias get some love.

I seem to recall a hipster stash

 

[ImporterExporter]

This isn't me taking a shot at your pick- I think he's just fine here, we are at that point in the draft where I think there is a pretty wide pool of players who are suitable, and it is really just about fit/individual GM interest in a player/team/era. But I have some questions-


What new information actually came out about Marshall? Particularly, what information came out that would raise his profile? We've always known that he was versatile and played on several winners. If anything, I think the project lowered his standing. Was he ever more than the 3rd best player on one of his championship teams? We had this discussion a little bit here. I think there may be a case for 1903, but it isn't cut and dry.


I realize you aren't necessarily being literal, but no, no he didn't.

First- I have no record of him actually playing during the 1901 SC games he is credited with. Obviously I can't post what I do have here, since it is, by nature, full of undrafteds, but I don't have him listed. Maybe he got in as a sub somewhere and I missed recording it, but he wasn't one of the main guys according to the sources I have seen (The Winnipeg Tribune, 30 January 1901 page 2 and 5, The Gazette, 30 January 1901 page 2, and The Montreal Star, 30 January 1901 page 2 and he Winnipeg Tribune, 1 February 1901 page 5 and 7, The Gazette, 1 February 1901 page 2, and The Montreal Star, 1 February 1901 page 2). And if I did indeed err and miss him getting into those games, I think it speaks volumes that his contributions were so small that I overlooked them.

2nd- He didn't technically win with the Montagnards in 1907. While they were leading the league, they ended up withdrawing because they had been caught using ineligible players and were being forced to replay a game. Plus, the FAHL was not a strong league. It was almost certainly no better than the 3rd best league at the time (after the ECAHA and IPHL), and even that is probably only because of my ignorance of other leagues. And looking it over, he only played 3 games there, haha, so maybe we can ignore this comment.

3rd- The bigger one (since we'll toss the Montagnards example), is that he didn't win with the Montreal Shamrocks, in 21 games over the 1908 and 1909 seasons. Those were bad teams, but they are the only two seasons in the AHAC/CAHL/ECAHA that Marshall was in the conversation for best player on his team. And 1908 shouldn't have even been that bad- they had two already ATD-drafted players on it in Joe Hall (4 games), Didier Pitre (10 games), and now Marshall (9 games), plus three other fairly big names for the era that I can't mention yet because of our undrafted rule. But I think that this is more evidence that Marshall was more of a secondary piece than "the guy". Which is obviously fine here, considering how deep we are in the draft.


I only have his 1902-1909, so he may have demonstrated play at other positions in his other seasons, but I think he was very solidly a Center/Cover for the aforementioned time period. Still, a very useful combination.

1902

Team	Game	Date	Opponent	Position	Goals	Assists
Montreal HC	Game #2	5 January 1902	Montreal Shamrocks	Forward	2	0
Montreal HC	Game #5	18 January 1902	Ottawa HC	Rover	1.5	0.5
Montreal HC	Game #7	22 January 1902	Montreal Victorias	Forward	1	0
Montreal HC	Game #10	1 February 1902	Quebec HC	Forward	1	0
Montreal HC	Game #12	8 February 1902	Quebec HC	Forward	2	0
Montreal HC	Game #16	15 February 1902	Montreal Shamrocks	Center	1	0
Montreal HC	Game #17	22 February 1902	Ottawa HC	Forward	1	0
Montreal HC	Game #19	26 February 1902	Montreal Victorias	Forward	2	0
Montreal HC	SC Game	13 March 1902	Winnipeg VIctorias	Center	0	0
Montreal HC	SC Game	15 March 1902	Winnipeg VIctorias	Center	1.5	1
Montreal HC	SC Game	17 March 1902	Winnipeg VIctorias	Center	1	0
				Games	Goals	Assists	Points
				11	14	1.5	15.5

1903

Team	Game	Date	Opponent	Position	Goals	Assists
Montreal HC	Game #2	3 January 1903	Montreal Shamrocks	Center	2.5	1
Montreal HC	Game #5	17 January 1903	Ottawa HC	Forward	0	0
Montreal HC	Game #7	21 January 1903	Montreal Victorias	Center	1	3
Montreal HC	SC Game	29 January 1903	Winnipeg Victorias	Center	2	0
Montreal HC	SC Game	31 January 1903	Winnipeg Victorias	Center	0	0
Montreal HC	SC Game	2 February 1903	Winnipeg Victorias	Center	1.5	0
Montreal HC	SC Game	4 February 1903	Winnipeg Victorias	Center	1.5	0
Montreal HC	Game #12	7 February 1903	Quebec HC	Center	2	0
Montreal HC	Game #16	14 February 1903	Montreal Shamrocks	Forward	1	0
Montreal HC	Game #17	21 February 1903	Ottawa HC	Center	0	0
Montreal HC	Game #19	25 February 1903	Montreal Victorias	Center	1	0
				Games	Goals	Assists	Totals
				11	12.5	4	16.5

1904

Team	Game	Date	Opponent	Position	Goals	Assists
Montreal Wanderers	Game #3	15 January 1904	Cornwall HC	Forward	2	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #4	20 January 1904	Ottawa Capitals	Center	5.5	2
Montreal Wanderers	Game #6	27 January 1904	Montreal Le National	Center	2	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #8	3 February 1904	Montreal Le National	Center	1	0
Montreal Wanderers	PO Game	2 March 1904	Ottawa HC	Center	1	0
				Games	Goals	Assists	Points
				5	11.5	2	13.5

1905

Team	Game	Date	Opponent	Position	Goals	Assists
Montreal Wanderers	Game #1	31 December 1904	Cornwall HC	Forward	0	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #3	7 January 1905	Ottawa HC	Center	2	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #5	13 January 1905	Montreal Montagnards	Forward	3	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #9	28 January 1905	Brockville HC	RW	1	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #10	1 February 1905	Brockville HC	Rover	2	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #14	11 February 1905	Ottawa HC	Center	0	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #17	18 February 1905	Cornwall HC	Center	2	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #19	25 February 1905	Montreal Montagnards	Center	3	0
				Games	Goals	Assists	Points
				8	13	0	13

1907

Team	Game	Date	Opponent	Position	Goals	Assists
Montreal Montagnards	Game #1	28 December 1906	Ottawa Victorias	Cover	0	0
Montreal Montagnards	Game #3	12 January 1907	Ottawa Victorias	Cover	1.5	0
Montreal Montagnards	Game #4	14 January 1907	Morrisburg HC	RW	2	0
Montreal Wanderers	SC Game	21 January 1907	Kenora Thistles	RW	1	1.5
Montreal Wanderers	Game #12	26 January 1907	Quebec HC	Wing	0	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #22	20 February 1907	Montreal Shamrocks	Rover	4	0
Montreal Wanderers	Game #28	6 March 1907	Montreal Shamrocks	Rover	1	0
				Games	Goals	Assists	Points
				7	9.5	1.5	11

1908

Team	Game	Date	Opponent	Position	Goals	Assists
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #1	28 December 1907	Montreal HC	Center	5	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #3	4 January 1908	Montreal Victorias	Center	2	1
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #8	18 January 1908	Ottawa HC	Center	1	2
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #10	22 January 1908	Montreal Wanderers	Center	1	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #17	8 February 1908	Montreal HC	Center	5	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #18	12 February 1908	Montreal Victorias	Center	2	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #19	13 February 1908	Quebec HC	Center	0	1
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #23	22 February 1908	Ottawa HC	Center	0	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #30	7 March 1908	Quebec HC	Center	2.5	0
				Games	Goals	Assists	Points
				9	18.5	4	22.5

1909

Team	Game	Date	Opponent	Position	Goals	Assists
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #1	2 January 1909	Quebec HC	Cover	1.5	2
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #2	6 January 1909	Quebec HC	Cover	0	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #5	13 January 1909	Ottawa HC	Rover	1.5	0.5
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #7	16 January 1909	Ottawa HC	Cover	3	2
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #9	20 January 1909	Montreal Wanderers	Cover	0	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #11	27 January 1909	Montreal Wanderers	Cover	0	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #13	30 January 1909	Quebec HC	Cover	1	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #15	6 February 1909	Quebec HC	Cover	0	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #16	10 February 1909	Montreal Wanderers	Cover	1	1
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #18	17 February 1909	Montreal Wanderers	Cover	0	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #19	20 February 1909	Ottawa HC	Cover	1	0
Montreal Shamrocks	Game #21	27 February 1909	Ottawa HC	Point	0	0
				Games	Goals	Assists	Points
				12	9	5.5	14.5

Looking at your roster, you actually have quite a few of the old-timers who bounced back between a forward position and a defense position- Taylor, Patrick, now Marshall. Was that intentional? You could do some really interesting things there, I'm excited to see what you guys do moving forward.

Sorry for the late reply! Been a busy couple of days, but great nonetheless!

Thanks for the clarification on Marshall.

What stood out for him was his legitimate standing at C and then D later in his career. There aren't many players who have that C/D (vice versa) capability in the ATD. Most of the 2 way players seem to be W/D. And our roster construction needed someone like him to make the mix and matching work to the maximum degree (explained later).

And while say the 1st Cup win in 1901 saw Marshall as a spare rather than starter, I haven't seen any of his credited where he wasn't a part of the team and playing in some capacity.

In 1902, he scored 2 goals in game 2 of the Cup final (went 3 games).

1903 he scored 7 goals in 4 games on another Cup winner. One of the best players of the series.

He scored 11 goals in 4 games, which was the best mark in the 1904 FAHL season as Dey needed 6 games to score the same amount.

He tied McGee with the most goals in 1905 but played in 2 more games than McGee.

So there was some offensive upside, just wasn't a consistent calling card. He falls more into the secondary scorer realm, which as a 4th line C or #6 D, is totally fine.

I don't think, nor suggested, that Marshall was anything more than a really good secondary presence on most of the teams he was on. And that's ok. He did enough to get into the Hall eventually. The project shed some more light on him which is a great thing, as it was for all the players you (and others) did work on.

I get the sense he was just a really steady player. No 1 standout quality but good at most things. Played hard, but clean. And was used just about everywhere, at one point or another. Meh hockey players don't pull of the double or triple duties, era be damned.

As for deployment.

We originally planned Taylor as a D. Figured it would be easy to fool the crowd given we also went Harvey/Brodeur with the 1st and 3rd round picks, so most/all would assume Taylor was our 1C.

That wasn't the case. Based on the draft falling in the manner it did, it was a slow burn into getting Taylor finally settled in on the top F line. Most of that had to do with getting Lapointe and then good value on Patrick and Pulford much later. Keeping Taylor on the back end when we were able to put together the top 4 of Harvey, Lapointe, Patrick. Pulford, just seemed like overkill. Grant sealed it as we view him as a luxury player on a bottom pair in a draft this size.

Normally, you'll see a F group like this:

Schriner-Taylor-Morris
Thompson-Bowie-Kucherov
Leswick-Barry-Bauer
Bourne-TBD-Claude Lemieux

However;

Given we ended up with Imlach (wasn't our original target but the top late round grab for sure), who took a past his prime Red Kelly and shifted him from D to C, led Johnny and I to finish building a roster where not only can we take advantage of that versatility w/Taylor, we can do it both pre and in game if the pieces are there.

Marshall was the last real piece.

He will normally be the #6 D beside Mike Grant to his left. We only need to draft our 4C yet which will happen in the coming rounds.

In the event Imlach wanted to shift Taylor back to the blueline, he can simply move Marshall up to the 4C spot and then bump the other 3C's up a peg. Meaning Barry becomes the 2, and Bowie becomes the 1.

Then you'd run a blue line of say,

Taylor-Harvey
Patrick-Lapointe
Pulford-Grant

Though that 6-man configuration could and has been discussed a couple different ways.

 

[Boreal01]

Believe the clock for @Claude The Fraud was up @ 11:58 EST so @jigglysquishy is up now and via list he'll be selecting Vitali Davydov, D

 

[Boreal01]

To complete our 3rd D pairing, we'll bring aboard a physical juggernaut who dominated opposing attackers with his strong defensive capabilities and was comfortable joining the rush or leading an offensive charge

The Cleveland Barons are proud to select Mark Tinordi, D

 

[tinyzombies]

Ott Heller

Added to Robinson, Hod Stuart, Sylvio Mantha - that’s four big tough guys who were all great skaters also.

 

[rmartin65]

Flett?

Please start using the quote function; lots of posts happen every day in this thread, and I almost missed this one.

Yeah, Roddy Flett. He was arguably the best point in Canada between 1896 and 1903, and was even on an All-Canada team originally published in the Brantford Courier in March 1903 (I saw it when it was re-published in The Gazette, 20 March 1903 Page 2).

I made a brief bio for him in the pre-WWII draft that you quit on. Here are a couple of quotes (emphasis added) that I think demonstrate his worthiness in this range-

“‘Roddy’ Flett is a Manitoban by birth and is twenty-three years of age. He has ever been a lover of sport from the time he first commenced to toddle. As a football player it is doubtful if Manitoba has his peer as a fullback on the association field. At lacrosse he has also made his mark, played with the old Winnipegs in the palmy days. He has curled some, played baseball, and was always recognized as a good base slider, and he has also quite a reputation as a Rugby football player. In rowing he is one of Manitoba’s hard, and will probably be one of the seniors for Henley next year. He has been playing hockey about four years, but he took to the game like a duck to water, and to-day he holds the enviable position of being probably the best man at point in the Dominion. He has been east twice with the boys, and on both occasions gave his opponents good cause to remember him”

"‘Roddy’ Flett, as point, has not a peer in Canada. He played the star game of the team last night, his work throughout the whole game was almost perfect. He was indefatigable in his efforts. He was here, there and everywhere, and always there when wanted first. He stopped many a deadly rush on goal last night, and spoilt many a combine. He was not caught napping at any stage of the game, and when he was called upon to fill cover point position, he was of inestimable value to the forward rank while playing in that position”

“...the Stone-wall ‘Roddy’ Flett”

“Rod Flett is ‘the power behind the throne’, which means that he comes immediately after UNDRAFTED in the path of the Stanley cup defenders. When you see a handsome man with a black moustache who skates gracefully and always looks you square between the eyes you may reckon that it is Flett. When you watch the match you won’t see any splutter under his red tunic. Neither will you see his skates in the air and his stick travelling on the ice for he has a grip of steel and has a faculty of keeping his feet something after the fashion of the terrible turk. What you will most likely see is the puck rising suddenly into mid air and you will hardly notice that the young man who ‘rose’ it has as much as bent his back. Its strange how he does it but he does”

“Flett is also a marvel, and was time and again applauded for his neat, clean lifts and cool-headed work”

“So far as Rod. Flett is concerned, of course he cannot be improved upon in any city. He is as good now at point as ever he or perhaps any hockey player for many years to come will be”

“‘The greatest point player in Canada’ is an appellation often bestowed on Rod Flett, and probably no man in hockey today would say that it was too high a title. For five years he has plyed his position through all the battles of the Victoria team and always with great credit to himself. He is most original in his methods of play and brilliant as a puck lifter. To see him relieve a hot scrimmage around his goal is a treat to any admirer of the game. His play is always characterized by good judgement, ad he probably is the best example of a man who uses the least amount of physical energy to the greatest possible advantage. This is artistic, scientific play, and in this lies the secret of his strength. He makes no aimless or unnecessary moves and never miscalculates his play. In his hand the duty of defending the Winnipeg goal against the rushes of the Shamrocks may be safely allowed to rest”

“Roddy Flett is mentioned as the captain of the senior team in succession to UNDRAFTED, and it is altogether likely he will be elected to that position at tomorrow night’s meeting. No one understands the game better than the peerless point man”

“R. Flett, at point, played close in on the poles, and blocked and cleared in the manner which has given him his big reputation”

“Roderick M. Flett needs no introduction to the sporting public for he has been an active follower of hockey and other athletic sports for several years. He is the point player of the champions and their captain. Rod is the only one of the champions now in the game who played when they first won the cup from the Victorias of Montreal in 1896. He has been playing with the Victorias since he started with them a young lad in 1894. As a defence player he has no superior in Canada to-day, combining as he does brawn with brain. He is a man of splendid physique, and weighs when in condition about 180 pounds”

 

[VanIslander]

Read every post.

I have never quit a draft. Ever.

I have put forward an idea, see it changed, and go: Nah, i'll pass on the idea YOU want me to run, and bow out PRIOR to the first pick.

A huge difference.

 

[VanIslander]

The Dusters select Gennady Tsygankov, the defensive mainstay on the mighty Soviets of the 1970s, winning 6 world championships, two Olympics (including an epic 2-man pp against killed), the 1972 Summit Series (Canada gave up more goals, which was the spun tiebreaker for them), the 1974 Summit Series (against Bobby Hull and other well-paid WHLers) and mostly wins in touring NHL cities in the Superseries 75-76, 76-77, 78-79 and was victorious against NHLers in Challenge Cup '79. He became the first national team partner for young Fetisov, who was thoroughly impressed with him physically.

What can we say about the performance of Tsygankov, one of our best scoring defensemen? He didn't score because he was too busy checking the Canadian forwards.

Tsygankov became one of us immediately. He quickly found his place on the CSKA Moscow team, and in the spring of 1971, he played for the national team .. Tarasov put me next to Tsygankov. Gennady showed a fantastic performance and great physical strength - guys nicknamed him the Caspian tiger (although I think that the Ussuri tiger would be more fitting given his birthplace).

To illustrate his extraordinary physique, I can tell you this story - at our base in Kudepsta, where we used to do our pre-season training, our trainers came up with a new test - measuring oxygen consumption during exercise (VO2 max). All of us knew that Gennady was head and shoulders above everyone else - but he just kept on going, and eventually the bag burst. An incredible feat. Everyone was shocked.

His organism was truly unique. He seemed to be impervious to pain. I remember that in some game, the puck hit Gennady in the ankle. The doctor on the bench gave him a shot and he was back on the ice. After the game, X-ray scan revealed that there is a bone fracture. How could he play with such injury and pain?

Gennady was ultra-reliable, you could always count on him. And not only on the ice. Maybe that's why he had a lot of friends in every city he played in.

 

[VanIslander]

Not online since 7 hours ago...
(pm'd minutes after last pick, but overnight silence.)
Give him some slack:@BraveCanadian

 

[Claude The Fraud]

Tiny Thompson

 

[VanIslander]

It's about time...

If this was a 28+ draft, he'd be a huge value pick!

 

[overpass]

Earlier in the draft I had mentioned that one of my personal favorite hockey books was the autobiography of an undrafted netminder. It’s Gump. His book with Tim Moriarty is such an enjoyable and fun read.

Case in point: The single most random chapter of any hockey book.

Anyone care to try ‘Gumpies’ and report back to us?

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I picked up this book just in the last month.

I never knew that Gump played top level amateur soccer. He played centre forward, and scored a goal against Tottenham Hotspur in their first North America tour. I guess he actually was a good athlete.

I also thought his reflection on smoking was funny. Something like "I smoked two packs a day my whole career. I don't know why I never quit. Maybe because I never tried."

 

[BraveCanadian]

Going with another righty who was a good all arounder for our last RD spot: D, Brent Seabrook

@Hitru @Professor What

 

[Professor What]

We're going with some flexibility on the fourth line. Gallifrey is happy to welcome Patrick Sharp.

 

[Leaf Lander]

Give me an hour and ill pick

 

[BraveCanadian]

We're going with some flexibility on the fourth line. Gallifrey is happy to welcome Patrick Sharp.

Forgot about him but he’s a good one to play around the lineup as needed

 

[Chet Donnelly]

Updated picks for the OP:

440. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Tiny Thompson, G
441. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Vitali Davydov, D
442. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Mark Tinordi, D
443. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Ott Heller, D
444. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Gennadiy Tsygankov, D
445. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brent Seabrook, D
446. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Patrick Sharp, W

 

[VanIslander]

A D RUN!

 

[Leaf Lander]

Leafs select Brad Richards C/RW
Big game performer played during the dead puck era
won 2 cups
1 conn smythe
1 lady bing
20 goals x 10 seasons
Reg Season Totals 1126 GP 298 G 932 Pts
Playoffs totals: 146 GP 37 G 105 PTS

 

[BenchBrawl]

Les Canadiens select Red Sullivan, C.

Brings leadership, PK & defensive skills and a bit of offense.

1958 coaches poll:

1st Best defensive forward
2nd Best penalty killer
1st Best hustler, hardest worker