ATD 2020 Draft Thread IV

[TheDevilMadeMe]

@TheDevilMadeMe any insight on the first question?

I'm on my phone at work, so i have no time to research your player in depth. I do remember Dunderdale has at least some grit to him and has a bunch of old bios.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Ok i briefly browsed some old posts, and Dunderdale was regularly a high PIM player. It means... Something

 

[ImporterExporter]

Ok i briefly browsed some old posts, and Dunderdale was regularly a high PIM player. It means... Something

He might have been into the whole using his stick as a lethal weapon movement. Seemed to actually be a fairly usual thing in that era haha.

 

[VanIslander]

So it will be a bit, a lot of different directions I could go and I'm working night shift this week.

Yeah. TDMM wants time too.

Let's chill.

8 hrs + 7 hrs = 15hrs.

My co-GM and I are queued up to pick when our clock begins. (No, no list will be submitted.)

 

[ResilientBeast]

Yeah. TDMM wants time too.

Let's chill.

8 hrs + 7 hrs = 15hrs.

My co-GM and I are queued up to pick when our clock begins. (No, no list will be submitted.)

Glad you took TDMM and I being honest that it'll take a little bit of time the most mature way possible

 

[ResilientBeast]

Ok i briefly browsed some old posts, and Dunderdale was regularly a high PIM player. It means... Something

That was the impression I got

 

[VanIslander]

Glad you took TDMM and I being honest that it'll take a little bit of time the most mature way possible

RB,...

Your level of maturity is noted.

 

[Habsfan18]

Ok i briefly browsed some old posts, and Dunderdale was regularly a high PIM player. It means... Something

What the hell happened in the 1916-1917 season? He seemed to have averaged 30-40 PIM give or take, but had 141! during that season. Geeze lol

 

[Dreakmur]

RB,...

Your level of maturity is noted.

Yes, he should be as nature as the guy who’s refusing to leave a list out of spite.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Should be noted that Svedberg beat out Ragulin for his WC All-Star nods. Much much shorter prime than Ragulin though.

Red Sullivan falling to the MLD last year was insanity.

My pick within 5 minutes.

Sullivan and Svedberg are both good picks in my eyes; I almost took Sullivan with my last pick, and considered Svedberg earlier for my Montreal team.

Literally had to triple check that Sullivan wasn’t taken last year and the. Re-convince myself that he was a good pick here. Perfect fit for a forechecking team

 

[VanIslander]

Yes, he should be as nature as the guy who’s refusing to leave a list out of spite.

Spite?

Lol.

It's principle.

If I expect either I or my co-GM will be available ANYTIME during our draft clock window, then we will make our pick. If we think we can't make our clock, we will submit a list.

 

[ResilientBeast]

I'll complete my top 6 for the Cougar's and select Shane Doan, RW/LW

Dependable player who can play the role asked of him. Comfortable laying out hits, digging the puck out of the corners and playing responsible defence.

Velociraptor Bio from 2014

 

[Habsfan18]

Doan is a pretty good pick at this point. Just a solid dependable all-around player.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Doan is a pretty good pick at this point. Just a solid dependable all-around player.

His scoring isn't horrifically tilted towards the PP, his 7 year VsX is unspectacular and he hit far more than I remember. Solid 3rd banana at 40 teams

 

[Habsfan18]

His scoring isn't horrifically tilted towards the PP, his 7 year VsX is unspectacular and he hit far more than I remember. Solid 3rd banana at 40 teams

It’s a shame he played his entire career on such crappy teams. That’s a player that quite frankly never really had a chance to win. Like, at all. 1500 regular season games and only 55 playoff games. Gotta feel for the guy..

 

[tinyzombies]

Better not get a French referee with Doan in your lineup...

 

[ImporterExporter]

Who can take a list?

 

[ResilientBeast]

Who can take a list?

I'll be here for ~4 more hours

 

[ImporterExporter]

I'll be here for ~4 more hours

List left with RB.

Thanks sir.

 

[VanIslander]

Doan is a pretty good pick at this point. Just a solid dependable all-around player.

I never explained to you why your co-GM panned him.

It's because he's a pretty good mediocre player. All-time great on the pp? No. On the pk? No.

I would draft him as a decent 13th forward but i haven't been in a 60-team draft yet.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I'll pick one of the best defensive defensemen of the 1970s - Dave Burrows, D

Defensive defensemen who play for weak recent expansion teams usually don't get recognition. But Burrows got fair amount of it:

Hart: 10th in 1976
Norris: 8th in 1974, 8th in 1985, 7th in 1976
All Star Games: 1974, 1976, 1980

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Burrows finished top 5 in the "defensive defenseman" category in every healthy year of his career for which we have a poll (he was injured in 1979):

1974: Best Defensive Defenseman
Bill White (Borje Salming, Jacques Laperriere, xxxxxxxxxx, Dave Burrows)
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- note that Brad Park, Serge Savard and Bobby Orr were all healthy and in their primes in 73-74.

1976: Best Defensive Defenseman
Larry Robinson (Bill White, Denis Potvin, Dave Burrows, Terry Harper)
​

- note that Serge Savard and Borje Salming were both healthy and in their primes in 75-76 (Park was banged up and Orr was hurting badly).

1980: Best Defensive Defenseman
1 Larry Robinson 2 Serge Savard 3 Dave Burrows​

- there were a lot of excellent defensive defensemen not on the above list who had healthy prime years in 79-80 (the poll was taken before the 80-81 season), including Denis Potvin and Borje Salming.

(commentary copied from Sturminator)

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Burrows saw a massive amount of ice time on the PK, and almost singlehandly made the PK respectable on an otherwise awful Penguins team.

His defensive IQ and skating makes him the perfect partner for Frank Patrick, allowing Patrick to roam around the ice looking to create offense and make big hits.

His penalty killing acumen enables me to take Brad Park off the 1st PK and give Park more ES and PP ice time.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I never explained to you why your co-GM panned him.

It's because he's a pretty good mediocre player. All-time great on the pp? No. On the pk? No.

I would draft him as a decent 13th forward but i haven't been in a 60-team draft yet.

That's way too harsh on Doan. I do agree that as a "jack of all trades, master of none," he shouldn't see much time on either special team if you can help it.

 

[ImporterExporter]

@Hawkey Town 18 is skipped because he's at -3 hours on time. I'll give him about 20-30 minutes (still getting caught up at work here) and then I'll pick.

 

[ImporterExporter]

With a division that features Trottier, Lindros, Sundin, etc, Saskatoon wants a high end defensive C that can match up with the big boys physically speaking.

Snipers select:

John Madden, C/LW

 

[BenchBrawl]

Doan vs. Guerin was something I quickly considered, but my Guerin pick was made on the rush. They look similar to me intuitively. Proven chemistry with Crosby made it an easy decision in favor of Guerin.