ATD 2017 Draft Thread IV
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seventieslord
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Oh boy. seventies gets scooped yet again.
Yet another case of taking what I want instead of what I need.
Sure, I have Tocchet, Hunter and Vadnais now but my 20th pick will be me settling for a penalty killing LW... not ecstatic about that.
It was a strategic move more than anything. I fully expected Sheppard to last to 490 as he had in 3 of the past 4 drafts.
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There WAS one guy we talked about that might still be there for your next pick.. maybe..
I actually think that guy's a pretty solid option too!
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If you check my lineup and my minute charts, it was obvious I was going for a penalty killer.
seventieslord
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There WAS one guy we talked about that might still be there for your next pick.. maybe..
I actually think that guy's a pretty solid option too!
That would be settling. I've got a few other options that we didn't discuss... but 43 picks is a long time.
oh, shut up.
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Looks like a lot of GMs are rolling with three scoringlines, and then picking up PK specialists on the 4th line. Given BB's team composition and the fact that Sheppard was possibly the best PK forward available, it's not really a surprising pick.
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Pretty sure he's just a C. Might be a bit of LW but much like Phil Watson, everything he ever did of note was at C, AFAIK.
All academic at this point, but I will definitely make note of a GM being skipped before I proceed to add the clock deduction to the OP!
seventieslord
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Right, but he only played the wing starting in the war years when his best hockey was behind him, and he only did it for a couple of seasons.
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seventieslord
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Because Vadnais was better. Better offensive record, more icetime for better teams, more all-star recognition. Far tougher and I don't think any worse defensively.
You misunderstand me. 447 is the pick I just made. I'm done taking defensemen, so in that regard, my list is toast, yes.
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Rob Ramage,D
Stats and personal info courtesy of hockeyreference.com:
Position: D ▪ Shoots: Right
Height: 6-2 (188 cm) ▪ Weight: 200 lbs. (91 kg)
Draft: Colorado, 1st round (1st overall), 1979 NHL Entry
- 4 time All Star
- 2226 career penalty minutes and 2882 career shots
- 50 points in 84 career playoff games
Legends of Hockey:
Quote:
With the Blues, he fell under the tutelage of former NHLer Barclay Plager. Plager went to work immediately to iron his protégé's game into the smooth surface it was meant to be. Ramage quickly evolved into a defensive mainstay, performing on power plays, killing penalties, contributing key offensive plays, and keeping his own zone clear.
Rob Ramage gained fame among professional scouts during his three-year term with his hometown London Knights of the OHA. There the big blueliner looked like rock-solid NHL material with a complete package of offensive and defensive tools. He also displayed a penchant for leadership
Joe Pelletier:
Quote:
Rob was one of the best two way blue liners in his 15 years in the NHL. He was big, physical and good in both ends of the rink. He was a great leader and character player. He was an excellent skater for his size (6'2" 200lbs), a smart playmaker and power play quarterback. He was solid in his own zone as well. The only thing Ramage lacked was speed.
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Wall Stanowski ,D
Originally Posted by Legends of Hockey
Known as the "Whirling Dervish" on Leafs' defense, Wally Stanowksi was a marvelous skater and skilled bodychecker who, by his second season in Toronto, in 1940-41, was chosen as a First-Team All-Star along with Boston's Dit Clapper.
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Originally Posted by Greatest Hockey Legends
He was a clever defensive player who excelled in his own zone first and foremost. In fact he was good enough to be named as a First Team All Star in 1941.
Stanowski was one of the first rushing defenceman. He loved to lead the attack as often as he joined it when he did he would amaze by making dashing spectacular rushes up the ice.
Stanowski was a clever defensive player who excelled in his own zone first and foremost. The Whirling Dervish was a very mobile and aggressive defenceman who was a skilled bodychecker who became very well know for his exceptional skating mobility and the smarts to keep up with any speedster.
Wally also possessed the strength to battle anywhere on the ice.He used his size strength and skating ability to dominant anytime he wanted to using superior puck poise. Once the puck got onto Wally's stick it was going to be very difficult for the opposition to get it back. Any player who can skate the puck out of danger and create offense with his superior skills is a very valued player.
As creative and valued as he was because of what he brought to the teams offense he was also considered to be a rock defensively often pairing up with his defensive partners to create a wall in the leafs defensive zone.
Winner of Four Stanley Cups and was a first-team. all-star in 41 and made another all star appearance in 47:
RS: 428 23 88 111
PO: 60 3 14 17
-Era late 30's early 50's
-Seasons 10
-Turnbull Cup MJHL Championship (1938)
-Memorial Cup Championship (1938)
-NHL First All-Star Team (1941)
-Stanley Cup Championships (1942, 1945, 1947, & 1948)
-Played in NHL All-Star Game (1947)
-WWII Vet
-Lost 4 yrs to the war
-Ranked 51 in the All Time leafs Book
- Ranked 66 top 100 Leafs 2016-17 Season
-Inducted into the Manitoba Sports Hall of Fame and Museum in 2004
-“Honoured Member” of the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame
Role -Two way Defenceman.
* NHL First All-Star Team (1941)
* Stanley Cup Championships (1942, 1945, 1947, & 1948)
* Played in NHL All-Star Game (1947)
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Alex Delvecchio-Milt Schmidt - Bryan Hextall Sr
Pete Mahovlich - Adam Oates- Peter Bondra
Daniel Sedin -Henrik Sedin-Tod Sloan
Harry Watson -Joel Otto -Dirk Graham
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Bobby Orr - Zdeno Chara
Jimmy Thomson -Gus Mortson
Rob Ramage- Wally Stanowski
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Rob Ramage,D
Stats and personal info courtesy of hockeyreference.com:
Position: D ▪ Shoots: Right
Height: 6-2 (188 cm) ▪ Weight: 200 lbs. (91 kg)
Draft: Colorado, 1st round (1st overall), 1979 NHL Entry
- 4 time All Star
- 2226 career penalty minutes and 2882 career shots
- 50 points in 84 career playoff games
Legends of Hockey:
Quote:
With the Blues, he fell under the tutelage of former NHLer Barclay Plager. Plager went to work immediately to iron his protégé's game into the smooth surface it was meant to be. Ramage quickly evolved into a defensive mainstay, performing on power plays, killing penalties, contributing key offensive plays, and keeping his own zone clear.
Rob Ramage gained fame among professional scouts during his three-year term with his hometown London Knights of the OHA. There the big blueliner looked like rock-solid NHL material with a complete package of offensive and defensive tools. He also displayed a penchant for leadership
Joe Pelletier:
Quote:
Rob was one of the best two way blue liners in his 15 years in the NHL. He was big, physical and good in both ends of the rink. He was a great leader and character player. He was an excellent skater for his size (6'2" 200lbs), a smart playmaker and power play quarterback. He was solid in his own zone as well. The only thing Ramage lacked was speed.
and
Wall Stanowski ,D
Originally Posted by Legends of Hockey
Known as the "Whirling Dervish" on Leafs' defense, Wally Stanowksi was a marvelous skater and skilled bodychecker who, by his second season in Toronto, in 1940-41, was chosen as a First-Team All-Star along with Boston's Dit Clapper.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatest Hockey Legends
He was a clever defensive player who excelled in his own zone first and foremost. In fact he was good enough to be named as a First Team All Star in 1941.
Stanowski was one of the first rushing defenceman. He loved to lead the attack as often as he joined it when he did he would amaze by making dashing spectacular rushes up the ice.
Stanowski was a clever defensive player who excelled in his own zone first and foremost. The Whirling Dervish was a very mobile and aggressive defenceman who was a skilled bodychecker who became very well know for his exceptional skating mobility and the smarts to keep up with any speedster.
Wally also possessed the strength to battle anywhere on the ice.He used his size strength and skating ability to dominant anytime he wanted to using superior puck poise. Once the puck got onto Wally's stick it was going to be very difficult for the opposition to get it back. Any player who can skate the puck out of danger and create offense with his superior skills is a very valued player.
As creative and valued as he was because of what he brought to the teams offense he was also considered to be a rock defensively often pairing up with his defensive partners to create a wall in the leafs defensive zone.
Winner of Four Stanley Cups and was a first-team. all-star in 41 and made another all star appearance in 47:
RS: 428 23 88 111
PO: 60 3 14 17
-Era late 30's early 50's
-Seasons 10
-Turnbull Cup MJHL Championship (1938)
-Memorial Cup Championship (1938)
-NHL First All-Star Team (1941)
-Stanley Cup Championships (1942, 1945, 1947, & 1948)
-Played in NHL All-Star Game (1947)
-WWII Vet
-Lost 4 yrs to the war
-Ranked 51 in the All Time leafs Book
- Ranked 66 top 100 Leafs 2016-17 Season
-Inducted into the Manitoba Sports Hall of Fame and Museum in 2004
-“Honoured Member” of the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame
Role -Two way Defenceman.
* NHL First All-Star Team (1941)
* Stanley Cup Championships (1942, 1945, 1947, & 1948)
* Played in NHL All-Star Game (1947)
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Alex Delvecchio-Milt Schmidt - Bryan Hextall Sr
Pete Mahovlich - Adam Oates- Peter Bondra
Daniel Sedin -Henrik Sedin-Tod Sloan
Harry Watson -Joel Otto -Dirk Graham
xxxxxxx
Bobby Orr - Zdeno Chara
Jimmy Thomson -Gus Mortson
Rob Ramage- Wally Stanowski
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Turk Broda, G
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seventieslord
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I am on my phone so hopefully this formats alright. The Cobalt Silver Kings will select a very tough customer who despite his size threw a fearsome body check and loved dropping the gloves. Additionally he also has 3 First All-Star teams and 2 Second All-Star teams in the PCHA and finished top 5 in scoring among defensemen six times.
The Cobalt Silver Kings select D - Bobby Rowe
1917 Stanley Cup Champ (Seattle Metropolitans)
1919 Stanley Cup Draw (Seattle Metropolitans)
3 1st All Star Teams
2 2nd All Star Teams
PCHA Scoring Finishes Among D: 2,3,3,4,4,5
The Cobalt Silver Kings select D - Bobby Rowe
1917 Stanley Cup Champ (Seattle Metropolitans)
1919 Stanley Cup Draw (Seattle Metropolitans)
3 1st All Star Teams
2 2nd All Star Teams
PCHA Scoring Finishes Among D: 2,3,3,4,4,5
I was thinking about Stanowski when I picked Griffis a couple rounds ago.
Take it I'm up again? Let's do it ... mixed feelings right now about my 12th forward, but I'll gamble a bit, take a guy I've always loved but never had in the ATD ... another good Ontario boy from Sarnia. Small guy, but he'll round out my 4th line, really give me a good mix of skill and snarl down there. If nothing else, this guy is first team All-Nickname.
No ATD bio in the master thread for him, but I'll put one together tonight.
RW Pat Verbeek
Take it I'm up again? Let's do it ... mixed feelings right now about my 12th forward, but I'll gamble a bit, take a guy I've always loved but never had in the ATD ... another good Ontario boy from Sarnia. Small guy, but he'll round out my 4th line, really give me a good mix of skill and snarl down there. If nothing else, this guy is first team All-Nickname.
No ATD bio in the master thread for him, but I'll put one together tonight.
RW Pat Verbeek
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Assuming we’re correct about when he was a D and when he was a RW, he’s an ok 2nd PP unit guy. But I’m still waiting for the source data from Iain Fyffe so I can clarify rowe and some others.
Just about a perfect 4th liner. Like Tocchet but with 10% less offense and more agitating than intimidating.
In a draft this small, he really becomes a 4th liner and PP specialist, eh? I wasn’t sure if a noob would grab him for a 2nd/3rd line spot.
I gotta say, I like seeing these “high career totals, mediocre prime†players taken down to earth, even if it looks super harsh on the surface.
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He sure does, which is how he's going to get used.He'll see maybe 5 ES minutes per game or something.I'll double shift one of Thompson or Elias to play with Sheppard and Toppazzini at ES once in a while, and the latter two won't see much ES icetime neither anyway.
Andreychuk will sit his ass in front of the net on my 1st unit.Fredrickson can also do this if necessary, but having Andreychuk will give Fredrickson more freedom on the PP.
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I thought about taking Andreychuk with my last like 5 picks. I wanted him for my PP since his career totals suggest he's the best all time at scoring goals there...
