ATD 2017 Draft Thread II

[MadArcand]

I *hate* you.

 

[ResilientBeast]

I'm here give me a few

 

[seventieslord]

I had Palffy as the guy with the best offensive 7 year prime among available wingers, however, there are a few guys fairly close to him, and they all had better longevity beyond their best 7, so it's probably a matter of personal preference.

 

[ResilientBeast]

I've already sold my Oiler's fan soul in picking Iginla so what's another one, Rod Brind'amour, C/LW where he'll play is up in the air either on Richard's wing or centering his own line.

 

[seventieslord]

Playing Brind'Amour on the wing would mean you don't get to take advantage of perhaps his best asset - faceoffs.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I've already sold my Oiler's fan soul in picking Iginla so what's another one, Rod Brind'amour, C/LW where he'll play is up in the air either on Richard's wing or centering his own line.

This guy VS Toews is a really interesting battle now.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Playing Brind'Amour on the wing would mean you don't get to take advantage of perhaps his best asset - faceoffs.

That is true, but I can have the coaches instruction be Brind'Amour takes all faceoffs for his line. That has been done before And is the tentative plan for my roster, having him now gives me a little bit of flexibility moving forward.

And he'll be out for faceoffs on our first unit power play for sure.

 

[King Forsberg]

I *hate* you.

Haha I knew you would be mad about that one. I saw that you and VanI's team both needed RWers so I tried to trade up with RB to make sure I got of of Gilbert, Palffy or Middleton. I almost feel bad now since I took Leetch and now Palffy from you now.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Haha I knew you would be mad about that one. I saw that you and VanI's team both needed RWers so I tried to trade up with RB to make sure I got of of Gilbert, Palffy or Middleton. I almost feel bad now since I took Leetch and now Palffy from you now.

I have to ask though, is Palffy really a good fit with Stewart?

 

[MadArcand]

Whalers select Wayne Cashman, LW/RW

Could slot him in with Bucyk & Espo on RW, but I prefer him as LW to Nedo & Martinec right now. Any thoughts on that?

 

[seventieslord]

I thought this would be the best place to post this, as it would find its way to all the right people.

View attachment 93831

Don't think anyone's ever put anything like this together before. You should all have a copy.

SIHR is the source.

Unknowns are blank. In the case of unknown assists, points still reflect the number of known goals.

Also, if anyone knows how to insert points rankings into each tournament, let me know.

 

[Sturminator]

I have to ask though, is Palffy really a good fit with Stewart?

Could be. He's a guy who can control and advance the puck and make plays from the wing. You'll probably need a "hard-working" LW to complete the line, but I don't think one must exactly replicate the structure of the old S Line in order to build a good unit around Old Poison.

 

[King Forsberg]

I have to ask though, is Palffy really a good fit with Stewart?

I think so. Palffy is a good balance of goal scoring and playmaking. Wit Stewart doing some forechecking, Palffy should be able to get open and create. Palffy can also be the puck carrier if need be. It's not a perfect fit but the offense Palffy brings should be big

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

Could be. He's a guy who can control and advance the puck and make plays from the wing. You'll probably need a "hard-working" LW to complete the line, but I don't think one must exactly replicate the structure of the old S Line in order to build a good unit around Old Poison.

Heatley or Palffy for me. Ultimately Heater's size and better 7 year score was the difference maker.

 

[King Forsberg]

Heatley or Palffy for me. Ultimately Heater's size and better 7 year score was the difference maker.

I probably would have taken Heatley had you taken Palffy.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Scotty Bowman

The Borg are not pleased.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I probably would have taken Heatley had you taken Palffy.

Palffy actually could be a better fit next to Ole' Poisin.

 

[seventieslord]

Palffy actually could be a better fit next to Ole' Poisin.

I think he is. Palffy's more of a skater who'll buzz around the offensive zone making plays. Heatley is like a bigger Babe Dye, he'll score the goals if someone else does all the rest for him.... which is just like Nels Stewart. Not only is Palffy a better fit, Heatley would have been a bad one.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I think he is. Palffy's more of a skater who'll buzz around the offensive zone making plays. Heatley is like a bigger Babe Dye, he'll score the goals if someone else does all the rest for him.... which is just like Nels Stewart. Not only is Palffy a better fit, Heatley would have been a bad one.

Pretty much. Heater certainly has guys that can do the work for him on his line.

 

[King Forsberg]

I think he is. Palffy's more of a skater who'll buzz around the offensive zone making plays. Heatley is like a bigger Babe Dye, he'll score the goals if someone else does all the rest for him.... which is just like Nels Stewart. Not only is Palffy a better fit, Heatley would have been a bad one.

"Poison and Heat." Name me a better combo than that.

 

[rmartin65]

Just got home from work, and am torn on a couple players. It might be a little while.

 

[seventieslord]

I thought this would be the best place to post this, as it would find its way to all the right people.

View attachment 93831

Don't think anyone's ever put anything like this together before. You should all have a copy.

SIHR is the source.

Unknowns are blank. In the case of unknown assists, points still reflect the number of known goals.

Also, if anyone knows how to insert points rankings into each tournament, let me know.

...who's good with spreadsheets? There has to be a way to easily do this as opposed to manually.

Here's what I did: I inserted a new column between C and D. I called cell D1 "1" to represent 1st place in 1920. Then in D2 I entered:

=IF(K2<K1, D1+1, IF(K2>K1, 1, D1))

and then I filled it all the way down. meaning:

- if the player has the same point total as the player above him, give him the same ranking.
- if he has less, give him the next ranking.
- If he has more, then he must be the scoring leader of the next tournament, so call him "1".

...which almost worked. But this results in ties not being accounted for in the players following the ties. For example, you'd want it to spit out:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, 13...

but it spits out:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, 10...

If you're next after a two-way tie for 5th, you should be listed as 7th, not 6th. I just need a clever way to make the spreadsheet do that. Someone who's clever with spreadsheets should be able to get this.

EDIT: maybe by counting the number of players with the same year, same tournament and a greater number of points, then plus one? I think that's possible but I'm not an expert with the COUNT function.

 

[rmartin65]

Well, the decision was made easier when I found out that one of the defenders I was considering played on the opposite side of the ice than I had thought.

The Miami Screaming Eagles select Ott Heller, D

Ott Heller will complete my second pairing, playing alongside Allan Stanley. Heller was an accomplished offensive defenseman, 7 times finishing top 5 in assists among defensmen.

 

[VanIslander]

I'm stoked we got Middleton. He's truly one of the Invincibles. The Lady Byng winner (6 time finalist) played a hard but clean game on both the powerplay and penalty kill. Over the 7-year span of his peak, from 1979 to 1985, he scored 652 points, trailing only Gretzky, Bossy and Dionne in goals, 41 game winners (3rd among all), 16 short-handed tallies (5th). He was five times top-5 in all-star voting for his position over those seven years, one of the times a 2nd team all star; impressively, he was the Bruins 3-star leader for six consecutive seasons. He averaged over a point a game in his 12 years in Boston and scored 100 playoff points in 111 postseason games as a Bruin, including overtime goals against the Broadstreet Bullies in 1977 and 1978 as the Bruins defeated the Flyers to go to the Stanley Cup Finals both of those years, setting the Boston record for postseason scoring in a year with 33 playoff points.

Coach Bowman said Middleton and Gretzky were the best players for Canada in the 1991 Canada Cup.

Gretzky praised his line-mate Rick Middleton for the work he did in the corners. In fact, it was Middleton's diligence that setup Perreault for the key goal of the final period.

Middleton logs more ice time than any Bruin except defensemen Park and Ray Bourque. He works the power play, kills penalties and protects late leads. The opposition keys on Middleton, too, because he's Boston's only genuine threat to "create" a goal: for the most part the other Bruins qualify as muckers....

 

[Dreakmur]

I was hoping to land Middleton to play on the Lindsay/Cowley line, and drop Foyston down to play with Sittler/Recchi. Failing that, I would have scooped up Herb Gardiner....

I'm still trying to figure out who to pick here... total crap shoot right now