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Prospect Info: At 24th Overall the Jets Select Kristian Vesalainen
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Hammer Slammer
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I thought so too, but I wasn't paying full attention. Not sure whether he actually touched it or not.
Kaako Kappo
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There's no rush, mate. Besides, he has a pro contract with a FEL team, and can't sign an NHL contract until that one runs out. He was drafted out of Europe, so he's essentially Jets property for 4 years.
Lempo
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Yes he can. The IIHF/NHL transfer agreement sees to that. There would be the ~200k transfer fee, though. Laine, Aho, Pulju and many others have an existing FEL contract at this very moment.
Vesalainen being a 1st round draftee, the Jets would even have a full control on him and could play him in the AHL (unlike 18-19 y.o. later round draftees who would need to be offered back to the IIHF team he has the contract with if he didn't make it to the NHL roster).
It's probably not a full coincidence that the FEL teams as a rule seem to sign the promising kiddos for three year contracts on their Draft(-1) year.
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His Liiga season starts in about 2 weeks. Will finally have some decent quality hockey to watch soon. I assume Liiga has their equivalent of a training camp? Anyone know how that's going and what line we should expect him on?
ChicagoBullsFan
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Actually the pre-Season started in Finland three weeks ago ( July 31st).
I don't know which line Vesalainen should be playing in NHL but if he founds good chemistry with Laine and Scheifele then let him play with those guys.
I'm not followed HPK's pre-season games so i don't know which guys have played with Vesalainen in HPK.
But upcoming world juniors in Buffalo Vesalainen probably plays with Joni Ikonen and Eeli Tolvanen or Aapeli Rasanen and Eeli Tolvanen.
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Liiga preseason has been going on for a while now. Havent watched many games, but he hasnt put up any numbers.
He'll be playing in a u20 tournament 24.8-26.8. Another Jets prospect, Santeri Virtanen will be there too. Three games in three days, so that should give a nice indication where he is at.
edit. According to live score site i used to follow the preseason games, he started the preseason in the 1st line but was demoted to 3rd line before the latest game.
Middle six role and go from there depending on how he does. His team hasn't got that much offensive talent, so he should stay in the lineup instead of
through the whole season, even if he doesn't produce right away.
Atoyot
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Did this tournament start today? Is there anywhere I could see boxscores?
Apparently Jacob Cederholm is the team sweden u20 captain in the 4 nations tourney. Good for him I guess. Maybe he could get a spot at the WJC too.
why is there no talking about Winnipeg picking vesalainen instead of Tolvanen who Went surprisingly at 30th?
Tolvanen is the man and has been for some weeks now. showing skills and Points at KHL preseason and just playd this seasons first game. result? 3 goals and 1 assist!
this just 18 years filled youngsterteenager could win the seasons pointtrophy. this kid looks like a Yzerman out there. dancing, speeding around and shooting great wristers.
oh , yeah...he isnt canadian or american. imagine laine and highly skilled pass/shootingking Tolvanen together. now that would have been something that!.
Tolvanen is the man and has been for some weeks now. showing skills and Points at KHL preseason and just playd this seasons first game. result? 3 goals and 1 assist!
this just 18 years filled youngsterteenager could win the seasons pointtrophy. this kid looks like a Yzerman out there. dancing, speeding around and shooting great wristers.
oh , yeah...he isnt canadian or american. imagine laine and highly skilled pass/shootingking Tolvanen together. now that would have been something that!.
Gabe Kupari
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Why is there no talk of every other team but Nashville not picking him? Cuz KHL success is irrelevant
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kelsier
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Well if anything, it's probably Florida who will be looking into the mirror in the future, especially if Tippett doesn't come through and Tolvanen does. They were the one team looking for that scoring winger and I'm leaning towards the latter despite the size issues. No one in the last draft has the same shooting abilities while most of his attributes can be improved.
But yeah, Tolvanen has a wrist shot almost as good as Laine's and imagine having two players like that, who can score from pretty much anywhere. The powerplay would be a nightmare while having to cover for 2 guys at the same time, Nevertheless, I think Vesalainen could have a great year as well. One doesn't exclude the other.
I'm honestly getting pretty worried about Vesalainen's development again. I thought the U18 production was a sign of him being after all a very solid prospect, but now that he has gone completely pointless in all the pre-season games and also in yesterday's junior national team game, I'm seriously starting to think that he is having some issues.
Of course pre-season doesn't tell necessarily very much, but still to be completely pointless in a good amount of games is kind of alarming. I just hope he will get quickly success with scoring when the FEL season finally starts in less than two weeks.
Of course pre-season doesn't tell necessarily very much, but still to be completely pointless in a good amount of games is kind of alarming. I just hope he will get quickly success with scoring when the FEL season finally starts in less than two weeks.
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Pre draft, the Canucks Army list (which I was 1/6th of the input in) had:
Tolvanen 15th: https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/11/nation-network-2017-prospect-profile-15-eeli-tolvanen/
Vesalainen 17th: https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/09/nation-network-2017-prospect-profiles-17-kristian-vesalainen/
I don't really see how one KHL game should make these two worlds apart. Talk about small sample size.
Tolvanen 15th: https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/11/nation-network-2017-prospect-profile-15-eeli-tolvanen/
Vesalainen 17th: https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/09/nation-network-2017-prospect-profiles-17-kristian-vesalainen/
I don't really see how one KHL game should make these two worlds apart. Talk about small sample size.
Gabe Kupari
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As long as he improves the area of his game the Jets want him 2.. Its way way way 2 early to be concerned.
kelsier
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It's not about just one game. Tolvanen apparently was the highest scorer in the team playing KHL even during the pre-season. I think they both have their pros & cons but right now Eeli is showing why he was ranked higher than were he got picked off. The kid instantly broke a record at KHL and it wasn't just luck (an inch away of scoring 4 goals).
True. Who knows, Vesalainen might just have an Armia like development curve, slow but steady. I'll certainly watch some of his games as soon as the season begins.
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