Prospect Info: At 16th Overall the Rangers Select Brennan Othmann

[duhmetreE]

 

[n8]

Othmann going back to juniors is such a crock. Either hes going to dominate against lesser competition and gain nothing, or hes going to get bored and gain nothing. Someone mentioned it in the PGT, but what are the chances he plays in Europe. I believe during his draft year he played in Switzerland. Might be better for his development

He's not going to do himself any favors playing in the NHL for 8 minutes a night. He's still developing and needs to be playing 20 min a night even if he is dominating against lesser competition. The thing to gain is consistency. The real crock is that he can't play in the AHL.

 

[cwede]

Othmann going back to juniors is such a crock. Either he's going to dominate against lesser competition and gain nothing, or h'es going to get bored and gain nothing. Someone mentioned it in the PGT, but what are the chances he plays in Europe. I believe during his draft year he played in Switzerland. Might be better for his development

kinda disagree.
(also, i don't think your 2 choices are not the only alternatives)

IMHO, The system actually works

being as great again is a fair and difficult challenge
and he will have leadership/mentor role, turning 20, and after his last season, his WJC and his NHL preseason icetime

Flint would need to release him for him to play again in Swiss
I'd rather him play every night, against talented/tough OHL kids who know who he is and that he's the guy to stop

that's what the NHL will be like - whatever you did last year (Shesty, Kreider, ...) now you gotta try to be just as effective again

 

[Guyute]

This dude is good. Kravtsov, on the other hand, ....

 

[CommaSynapse]

kinda disagree.
(also, i don't think your 2 choices are not the only alternatives)

IMHO, The system actually works

being as great again is a fair and difficult challenge
and he will have leadership/mentor role, turning 20, and after his last season, his WJC and his NHL preseason icetime

Flint would need to release him for him to play again in Swiss
I'd rather him play every night, against talented/tough OHL kids who know who he is and that he's the guy to stop

that's what the NHL will be like - whatever you did last year (Shesty, Kreider, ...) now you gotta try to be just as effective again

I'm with you. If they're not using him consistently in a top-9 role in the NHL, let him be the guy with Flint and get that confidence instead of shoving him into whatever 4th line carousel Turk will cook up this year

It's a waste for him to be getting 8 minutes a night every 3rd game.

Send him back with notes and go from there. He came back hard on some nice back checks last night. The more complete his game, the better.

He'd be 20 to start the 2023-2024 season.

 

[will1066]

He's playing like a 1OA, to be quite honest.

 

[Unpredictable1]

He's playing like a 1OA, to be quite honest.

IMO Othmann showed last night what we longed for with Laf in any of his first dozen games or so or more. For the record, love Laf and hope wears our sweater forever. His start in the NHL with the pandemic wasn't like anything a 1OA had to experience before.

Othmann really seized the moment, really like what we got with him. Keep building on it kid, wherever they make you play this year!

 

[Luger]

It may be worth giving him 9 games. Playing 8-10 minutes for 3 weeks in the NHL (against the best competition and with the best coaches) would mean he'd miss 12 OHL games, but it will give him a taste of what to expect in the NHL the following season. It certainly wouldn't be harmful to his development. He can then go back and play 50+ games in the OHL at 20 minutes per game plus the WJC. That's an excellent prep year to compete for an NHL spot next season.

 

[will1066]

IMO Othmann showed last night what we longed for with Laf in any of his first dozen games or so or more. For the record, love Laf and hope wears our sweater forever. His start in the NHL with the pandemic wasn't like anything a 1OA had to experience before.

Othmann really seized the moment, really like what we got with him. Keep building on it kid, wherever they make you play this year!

He demonstrated a comfort with NHL pace, the environment. That was NHL pace last night the first couple of periods despite being a preseason contest. That kind of stuff he showed, you can visibly tell right off the bat, and it's similar to the way guys like Fox and Schneider kinda instantly fit in and never looked back.

 

[Hinterland]

I'm with you. If they're not using him consistently in a top-9 role in the NHL, let him be the guy with Flint and get that confidence instead of shoving him into whatever 4th line carousel Turk will cook up this year

It's a waste for him to be getting 8 minutes a night every 3rd game.

Send him back with notes and go from there. He came back hard on some nice back checks last night. The more complete his game, the better.

He'd be 20 to start the 2023-2024 season.

He was the guy in Flint last year already. Had nobody to play with...didn't even play with Flint's best forwards like Lombardi much...and still dominated the league. Would have led his team into the final if it wasn't for Windsor's starter getting hurt and their backup standing on his head like crazy. Windsor was down and out and it was mostly Othmann's work. Flint had probably the leagues best goalie but other than that the team was all Othmann. Cavallin is no longer with Flint though so they might not even make the playoffs. There's nothing Othmann can still learn in the OHL and whether he wants it or not, he'll get bored quickly, especially if he's playing on a losing team. He was the OHL's, maybe the entire CHL's most dominant player last season and unlike the other superstars he did it all on his own. Take McTavish for example. I like McTavish a lot but he had a shitload of support in Hamilton and even back in Peterborough. Othmann had zero elite talent around him. Nobody. So what more can he do? I don't see it. Is he NHL ready? Probably not. But sending him back to the OHL does nothing for Othmann...and that's the best case scenario. Bad habits would be a major risk.

 

[leetch99]

IMO Othmann showed last night what we longed for with Laf in any of his first dozen games or so or more. For the record, love Laf and hope wears our sweater forever. His start in the NHL with the pandemic wasn't like anything a 1OA had to experience before.

Othmann really seized the moment, really like what we got with him. Keep building on it kid, wherever they make you play this year!

The short layoff from the WJ's helped Othmann look sharp last night....and as you said the road for Laff was all wrong on account of Covid and I said it back then....Laff should have played that last World Junior event but instead stayed with the Rangers. That IMO would have been helpful in his development and enabled him to catch up a little bit to the level/speed of NHL play .

 

[Baby Duck Homme]

He’s the new forward Lindgren. Will bleed to compete.

 

[Unpredictable1]

The short layoff from the WJ's helped Othmann look sharp last night....and as you said the road for Laff was all wrong on account of Covid and I said it back then....Laff should have played that last World Junior event but instead stayed with the Rangers. That IMO would have been helpful in his development and enabled him to catch up a little bit to the level/speed of NHL play .

100% agree.

 

[Baby Duck Homme]

Wrong thread

 

[McRanger92]

If Laf is really injured, Othmann has a chance

 

[RangersFan1994]

If Laf is really injured, Othmann has a chance

I dont think Lafy is gonna miss that much time. Othmann should have a chance regardless. Get scrubs Hunt Carpenter Gauthier Brodzinski out of here.

 

[Fugazy]

If Laf is really injured, Othmann has a chance

I don't think Laf will miss much time at all. Othmann should be considered for NHL level playing time regardless of that though.

 

[ecemleafs]

Othmann going back to juniors this year will allow him to refine his game even further and for him to improve physically (strength and speed). Othmann is a real physical guy and will be best off getting faster and stronger for when he plays in the NHL in 2023.

 

[Hinterland]

Othmann going back to juniors this year will allow him to refine his game even further and for him to improve physically (strength and speed). Othmann is a real physical guy and will be best off getting faster and stronger for when he plays in the NHL in 2023.

I'm not American but I doubt there's better gyms and other options to work out in Flint than in New York. Also, his skating is good. He did pretty well on that short handed rush as well.

 

[RosensRug]

It may be worth giving him 9 games. Playing 8-10 minutes for 3 weeks in the NHL (against the best competition and with the best coaches) would mean he'd miss 12 OHL games, but it will give him a taste of what to expect in the NHL the following season. It certainly wouldn't be harmful to his development. He can then go back and play 50+ games in the OHL at 20 minutes per game plus the WJC. That's an excellent prep year to compete for an NHL spot next season.

This..

If he plays well and produces in his remaining pre season games what's the harm with giving him the extended look for 9 games? He'll get a taste of the NHL and barring getting injured won't impact his development whatsoever.

 

[leetch99]

I figure if we can save a year on his ELC by him not playing more than 9 games then no big deal ...if he is ready . That year saved might be HUGE as we move along probably facing cap probs every season up until we clean house next time . So....I'm sure that Drury also has that in mind . Guys like Gauthier and such cost about the same and won't add much offense but they also won't likely hurt us for at least one season while guys like Othmann get more rounded .

Quick question....what happens if he suffers a season ending injury while playing 9 as a Ranger ? Does he lose a year off his ELC and he gets treated as an NHL player and not somebody heading back for junior ?

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Fantastic article on The Athletic about Othmann.

The Gifted: How Rangers prospect Brennan Othmann plays with swagger and why it works

Othmann, a Rangers 2021 first-round pick, can make you make mistakes of discipline, and then burn you with his skill right after.

theathletic.com

When I last spoke to him in Edmonton at the world juniors last summer, he spoke about his physicality as underrated. In advance of the draft, if you asked around about Othmann, sources would come back to you with descriptions of a talented sniper who needed to mature and lose some of his ego and cockiness.

He’s got a chip on his shoulder, they’d say.

The more you watch him, though, and the more you watch him specifically with all of that in mind, the more you understand it. He does have a chip on his shoulder.

You can call it what you want. A chip on his shoulder. Confidence. Arrogance. Cockiness. Swagger. All of them are likely true in their own ways. They’re also all attributes that many of the game’s star players past and present also possess(ed).

 

[Draft Guru]

The short layoff from the WJ's helped Othmann look sharp last night....and as you said the road for Laff was all wrong on account of Covid and I said it back then....Laff should have played that last World Junior event but instead stayed with the Rangers. That IMO would have been helpful in his development and enabled him to catch up a little bit to the level/speed of NHL play .

Was it helpful for Kirby Dach's development to go to that WJC, break his wrist and miss 4 months of time? It derailed his career.

That easily could have been Lafreniere. We should be glad he didn't go.

 

[68Forever]

Was it helpful for Kirby Dach's development to go to that WJC, break his wrist and miss 4 months of time? It derailed his career.

That easily could have been Lafreniere. We should be glad he didn't go.

lol first time i've ever heard that the WJC helps anyone get to "NHL" speed lolololol

 

[brakeyawself]

He's not going to do himself any favors playing in the NHL for 8 minutes a night. He's still developing and needs to be playing 20 min a night even if he is dominating against lesser competition. The thing to gain is consistency. The real crock is that he can't play in the AHL.

Yup. I think we've known he's going back to Jrs for 2 since we drafted him, because that's pretty much his only choice unfortunately. He would had to have blown everyone away in camp and pre and steal a top 6 role or something. Which was always pretty unlikely. Or I guess he could go play in Europe for whatever that is worth. I suppose going to play in a Men's league might at least get him acclimated to that, but then there's still the worry of him not getting enough minutes. Anyway...... it's BS he has no option to play in the A. All though I "get it".... Jr teams have to make money too. It's still a partnership of sorts between everyone.