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Player Discussion Artemi Panarin
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bleedblue94
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- Jun 8, 2004
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Has not been the same player since the injury. It's not going to change.
The Gloaming
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Get this loser out of here. Like I said, only good for being a total unfocused goof and padding his PP stats off of brilliant Fox plays. Dont understand how he can be so beta with his life story and all. But get him away from this team.
RangersFan
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Players like him never come around!!!
You could have let me play and not show up for free.
You could have let me play and not show up for free.
Are you guys finally ready to join team points schmoints?
I don’t even want to single out Panarin for play alone as it’s not like he’s the only player that has been severely underwhelming at 5v5.
However, this team has too many holes to fill to continue lugging around his nearly $12mm. If Game 6 is anything like 5, I could see some boo birds being tossed his way. Maybe that’s enough to get the two sides to agree it’s time to move on. Now who would be the taker, even if he agreed, I have no idea. Seattle? LA?
However, this team has too many holes to fill to continue lugging around his nearly $12mm. If Game 6 is anything like 5, I could see some boo birds being tossed his way. Maybe that’s enough to get the two sides to agree it’s time to move on. Now who would be the taker, even if he agreed, I have no idea. Seattle? LA?
Gents, this is what happens when you can't draft or develop elite forward talent. You have to go free agent hunting to overpay for guys past their prime. Panarin, Tarasenko, and Kane all look 70 years old out there right now. You've got Jack Hughes putting up damn near 100 points and shredding us all series long and then you have Kakko, a wet fart that hasn't scored 20 goals in a season. This is the difference. This is why this organization simply keeps playing the same record on repeat; they can't f***ing draft in the first round. Whether it's because they never actually suck enough to get the first overall, or just straight up whiffing on top 10 picks (looking at you, Kravtsov & Andersson) they always f*** it up (see: Lafreniere)
JimmyG89
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- May 1, 2010
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It's time to make the move. There are some disappointing teams this season looking for a change.
Drury wasn't happy with his postseason last year, and he at least showed in the 1st round. This is a no show. And on top of that, we traded for his guys. No shows. 3 straight games.
It's not over, but unless he can turn back the clock, stop bobbling the puck and missing the net, this one is done. There will be a lot of questions this off-season.
The organization has done everything for him. They've had his back 100% and it's time he has a couple 100% games, cause these 65% games aren't cutting it.
Drury wasn't happy with his postseason last year, and he at least showed in the 1st round. This is a no show. And on top of that, we traded for his guys. No shows. 3 straight games.
It's not over, but unless he can turn back the clock, stop bobbling the puck and missing the net, this one is done. There will be a lot of questions this off-season.
The organization has done everything for him. They've had his back 100% and it's time he has a couple 100% games, cause these 65% games aren't cutting it.
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At the very least you have to strip the A off his sweater. This guy is not a leader.
EdJovanovski
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Best player this series not named Igor. Physically engaged, buzzing and creating scoring chances. Pinning down Devils sticks in front of our net to bail out our defense, challenging 6’6 230lb Bahl in a scrum. He’s doing it all. The real ghost has been Mika Zibanejad, well he took 2 stupid penalties while we were on offense this game so I guess he wasn’t totally invisible. If we do actually move him he’ll be another to the long list of players who go on to thrive elsewhere and we’ll be sitting here hoping our 1st & 2nd overall picks hit 45pts one day.
- Nov 14, 2018
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Plan A - win the draft lottery with a 1OA and 2OA pick (scratch that)
Plan B - bring in marquee names on bloated contracts/high rents (oops, try again)
WTF is Plan C….?
Plan B - bring in marquee names on bloated contracts/high rents (oops, try again)
WTF is Plan C….?
EdJovanovski
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smoneil
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PuckLuck3043
Stairway To Heaven
You can spin it any way you like and we know you like to spin but Panarin has done very little the last 2 playoffs. He has been their top scorer for 4 years now during the regular season but the last 2 playoffs are concerning. It's not all on him but when you make 11.5 million you just need to be better when it matters. I have defended him this year also but I could understand if the team looks to move him after this disaster of a series.
TopShelfSnipes
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Plan C...oh no we're not gritty enough, sign a bunch of overpaid grinders and become tough to play against, and lose most games 2-1 (ending up a bubble team), with a leading scorer who tips the scales at ~60 points a season. Maybe win a series so the grit fellaters feel like we can go all the way, rinse repeat for a few seasons until we finally suck so bad we go back to Plan A or B.
The Gloaming
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The last time you consistently overrated a player, he was traded to the western conference for peanuts. If that is the end result of you now overrating Panarin, then by all means, please continue to do so. While it’d be nice to get assets for him, $11.6mm would be more than enough of an asset. We could trade everyone of the kids and still not get that type of cap relief.
Mike in Houston
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It's quite amazing and quite frankly, sad, to see a player so good in the regular season, paid the most on the team, get rendered completely useless in the playoffs like Artemi Panarin.
The Gloaming
23
Players with more goals than Artemi Panarin in these playoffs:
Adam Lowry
Erik Haula
Ryan Hartman
Jesper Fast
Nick Bjugstad
Stefan Noesen
Tyler Bertuzzi
BRETT HOWDEN
Noel Acciari
Oscar Sundqvist
MacKenzie MacEachern (who??)
Ian Cole
Derek Ryan
Pierre Engvall
Ryan Lindgren
Just sickening. 2nd highest cap hit in the league. Drag him through the mud this summer and get him to waive the NMC.
Adam Lowry
Erik Haula
Ryan Hartman
Jesper Fast
Nick Bjugstad
Stefan Noesen
Tyler Bertuzzi
BRETT HOWDEN
Noel Acciari
Oscar Sundqvist
MacKenzie MacEachern (who??)
Ian Cole
Derek Ryan
Pierre Engvall
Ryan Lindgren
Just sickening. 2nd highest cap hit in the league. Drag him through the mud this summer and get him to waive the NMC.
SA16
Sixstring
Now go through the list of how many players have more goals than Timo Meier and Nico Hischier this post season - both of whom outscored him during the regular season.
The Gloaming
23
I must have missed those players making 11.6 million dollars.
I'm sorry that I want our highest paid player to produce offense in the playoffs. I know it's probably asking for too much. Laughing and goofing off at practice should be good enough.
LOL at the Jovo spin machine.
send Panarin to Vancouver where he can put up his 100+ points and not have to worry about producing beyond the Regular season.
send Panarin to Vancouver where he can put up his 100+ points and not have to worry about producing beyond the Regular season.
The Panarin life cycle, starting middle of his second season here:
A smallish group begins pointing out that despite producing, Panarin isn’t playing with the same daring and intensity and is instead becoming predictable and easier to defend against. The turnovers are piling up and it’s starting to feel like he’s a bit of a liability.
The larger majority can only see 95 points and shouts us down with factoids about how he’s the highest scoring Rangers in X years and the fastest Ranger to Y points in Z years. None of it addresses the fact that he’s a selfish narcissist who only cares about counting his points and pennies and will never be the type of guy to sacrifice his style for substance.
He starts the next season hot and the Panarin defenders come back in force with potential excuses - he was worn down from carrying the team, he was nursing an injury, etc. Bread racks up points in generally meaningless early season games and even the Bread detractors, hopeful that he CAN do it different this year and actually be a positive contributor, admit that he looks good and hope he can keep it up when the games mean something.
Now, we return to the beginning of the cycle:
A smallish, but larger than the previous season, group begins pointing out that despite producing, Panarin isn’t playing with the same daring and intensity he did in his first season and is instead becoming MORE predictable and easier to defend against. The turnovers are piling up and it’s starting to feel like it’s a bit tougher to deny that he’s very often a liability.
This time it carries into the playoffs where Panarin essentially shits himself at center ice nightly.
None the less, a majority of posters are still blinded by 95 points and continue to shout us down with factoids about how he’s the highest scoring Rangers in X years and the fastest Ranger to Y points in Z years. Still, none of it addresses the fact that he’s a selfish narcissist, nor the fact that more is expected of of a guy with the second highest cap hit in the world.
The following season begins and Bread gets his point totals looking nice and juicy and the Pana-fans start high fiving while the group that’s growing increasingly tired of his act caution that it doesn’t mean anything until the playoff this time.
The playoffs come around and, even when catered to with his choice of linemates and choice of teammates, he commences to be invisible unless shitting himself at center ice again.
I’m just waiting for the numbers to shift from the majority being in the “but 100 points!!!!!” camp to the “this guy is a loser with a selfish loser mentality” camp. I think we’re getting there.
A smallish group begins pointing out that despite producing, Panarin isn’t playing with the same daring and intensity and is instead becoming predictable and easier to defend against. The turnovers are piling up and it’s starting to feel like he’s a bit of a liability.
The larger majority can only see 95 points and shouts us down with factoids about how he’s the highest scoring Rangers in X years and the fastest Ranger to Y points in Z years. None of it addresses the fact that he’s a selfish narcissist who only cares about counting his points and pennies and will never be the type of guy to sacrifice his style for substance.
He starts the next season hot and the Panarin defenders come back in force with potential excuses - he was worn down from carrying the team, he was nursing an injury, etc. Bread racks up points in generally meaningless early season games and even the Bread detractors, hopeful that he CAN do it different this year and actually be a positive contributor, admit that he looks good and hope he can keep it up when the games mean something.
Now, we return to the beginning of the cycle:
A smallish, but larger than the previous season, group begins pointing out that despite producing, Panarin isn’t playing with the same daring and intensity he did in his first season and is instead becoming MORE predictable and easier to defend against. The turnovers are piling up and it’s starting to feel like it’s a bit tougher to deny that he’s very often a liability.
This time it carries into the playoffs where Panarin essentially shits himself at center ice nightly.
None the less, a majority of posters are still blinded by 95 points and continue to shout us down with factoids about how he’s the highest scoring Rangers in X years and the fastest Ranger to Y points in Z years. Still, none of it addresses the fact that he’s a selfish narcissist, nor the fact that more is expected of of a guy with the second highest cap hit in the world.
The following season begins and Bread gets his point totals looking nice and juicy and the Pana-fans start high fiving while the group that’s growing increasingly tired of his act caution that it doesn’t mean anything until the playoff this time.
The playoffs come around and, even when catered to with his choice of linemates and choice of teammates, he commences to be invisible unless shitting himself at center ice again.
I’m just waiting for the numbers to shift from the majority being in the “but 100 points!!!!!” camp to the “this guy is a loser with a selfish loser mentality” camp. I think we’re getting there.
