We have not been talking about him as a top line guy. He looks to be a second line guy who can slide in and be a facilitator to the top line guys. Which is exactly what he is doing right now.
Player Discussion Artemi Panarin
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KirkAlbuquerque
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Imagine trading Panarin for Brandon Saad...
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He's wiry strong but it's also how he uses body position to leverage heavier players trying to lean on him. With the puck moving down the boards in one on one situations--he can curl either way away from a checker and make a tape to tape pass all in a millisecond. That's extremely hard to defend against and particularly because of his awareness of where both teammates and opponents are. It's been a long time since the Rangers have had a player with that much hockey IQ who could pull off the kind of plays he's making--it's Gretzky, Leetch territory. Barring a serious injury I can see Panarin having a 100 + point season. He's easily prorating that now and we're missing Zibanejad too.
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Why put a governor on him?
He would obvious benefit with more talented players. Jesper Fast playing with Panarin is a poor choice. He needs to be put in his role of 'shutdown' forward. I like Fast but he has no place playing with Panarin. Zibs is one of our best finishers, a great forechecker and player on the baords. He also finds open space well. He's shown crazy hot spurts with Zucc and has shown flashes with Panarin, as limited as it was.
I'd put the Chytil line back together and have a legit checking line(s).
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Struggling to score. He's shown chemistry with Panarin on the PP. Shouldn't we be attempting to lift him up? He's been skating much better. He's just absolutely smothered when he has the puck. That wouldn't happen with Panarin, or if it did, he'd be able to find him.
This is also under the premise that the Kreider-Chytil-Buch line was to be put back together.... Considering it was one of, if not the best line we've had so far.
If not Kakko, then who? Fast? Strome? Haley?
'It's time', referring to the 'prophesied' line in the off-season.
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I'd like to find out.
The casual 2 point night can turn into the random 4-5 point night
IMHO, the marginal improvement to Panarin's game would be less than the drop off in other lines' games.
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One of the strongest people I knew growing up was 140lbs.. He had similar wire build. Chimpanzee strength aka a lot more fast-twitch muscle fibers.
Another over-looked thing with Panarin... he's in incredible shape.
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We don't even know the margin.
Our 3rd line hasn't produced much at even-strength. There'd be no fall-off. Lemieux-Howden/Strome-Fast would produce at the same pace as they have.
The floor stays the same while raising the ceiling... I'd like to find out how high the ceiling is
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Maybe, Fast being so good at stopping opponents in the d-zone and at puck retrieval in the o-zone actually helped Panarin have the puck more than he normally would.
Mostly just playing devil's advocate, but also getting pretty tired of reading about Fast as if he is an average third liner.
Mostly just playing devil's advocate, but also getting pretty tired of reading about Fast as if he is an average third liner.
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Fast is a great defensive forward. A 30pt bottom 6 player. I understand what you're saying but getting the puck will not be an issue with Panarin and Zibs
Finding him on the PP when you are playing up a man, is far different than finding him when at ES. So no, making judgments just based on PP results would be erroneous.
If you take Quinn at his word, I have no idea of how it would stay together.
Yes, Haley. Clearly what I have been advocating for. Maybe throw in Gettinger on the same line while you are at it.
What has been wrong with Strome on his line? Certainly has not hurt him at all and they frankly look playing pretty good together. Strome has shown a lot more at ES than Kakko has. And again, if you take Quinn at his word, then Strome is staying at center with Panarin on wing. That leaves RW open. If a RW has earned a promotion, it was Buchnevich, not Kakko. But he has been fine where he is. And looking at how Kakko's game, coincidentally started to grow when being on the same line as Lemieux, not I would not be looking to move him. And then factor in that his play has actually not demanded that he be moved.
Do I love Fast on the top line? No. But based on what Quinn said, I would not expect him to move. Giving Kakko more responsibility before he has earned it would not be a good move.
Prophesied by who? Fans on a message board who want instant gratification and are not seeing the long term picture?
I am fine with Kakko where he is. I am fine if ZBad takes the 2C role and Chytil slides down to center Lemieux and Kakko. I am fine if the coaching staff waits until Kakko's play demands an increase in time and responsibility. I would also not cry or be surprised if an 18 year old, spent an entire year on the 3rd line. Remember, long term pleasure instead of knee jerk reactions.
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Youre micro analyzing it. I'm looking at the macro. Try the best offensive talent together. Create roles and purpose for players/lines.
Showing any form of chemistry on the PP means they are seeing the game the same way. It doesn't matter if there's an advantage. It's about finding space and reading the play. Obviously, Panarin is an easy guy to have chemistry with if you just keep moving to open space. He's shown it with Buch but as originally said, which you seemed to ignore, Its under the premise of putting the Kreider Chytil Buch line together.
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What Kakko is going to be is not necessarily what he is today. His role has been created and he has a purpose on his line.
You believe that finding a player in a 5 on 4 is just as easy as finding him on 5 on 5?
He found it with Buch for like two games, and then Buch regressed. Buchnevich has looked better in his current role than when he was with Panarin.
But if you believe Quinn, then that is not a realistic premise.
The most talented ever to wear a Jackets Jersey, thanks to Chicago
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EdJovanovski
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18 points in his last 10 games, 24 in his last 15.
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Change is good.
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During his first season in Chicago I was somehow offended to hear he is the opposite Kane, because event then he was better than Kane it some areas, like defense (backchecking), hardness on puck, board fights and fist figs
))) And now the second season he is CREATING CHANCES FOR OTHERS - feature Kane was never special at... And Kane is a special, one of the best players hands down....BTW after four years of following Panarin, I finally got my real screen name
)) Congrats me
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