Around the NHL XXXIX

[L'Aveuglette]

The players on the Huricanes reportedly shared their concerns about Peters' antics with management when he was coaching there and were ignored.

This keeps getting worse.

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It's getting clearer and clearer that Peters was a toxic presence in general and major figures in the NHL chose to ignore it.

 

[Tuna99]

Maybe Paul MacLean got fired because he was Paul MacLean and not because the selfish superstar players' egos.

Erik Karlsson and Jason Spezza can't be the reason he has barely sniffed a job since.

Either way, Bill Peters can't survive this can he? Probably a blessing in disguise for Calgary as I am sure they will respond well to a coaching change.

Peters has to go. He had to go anyways, but if he stays and they lose 2 in a row the fanbase will be losing their minds.

 

[18Hossa]

I’d like to hear what music was being played and what the lyrics were. Has that been reported?

Nothing other than “hip-hop music” I think.

 

[tardigrade81]

The bruins are absolutely slaughtering Montreal wow.

 

[Xspyrit]

If the Habs end up drafting higher than the Sens I’m going to be very annoyed

 

[Six Assets]

Bruins should save some goals for tomorrow

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I'd consider losing to Boston by only 1 or 2 goals tomorrow a huge win.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Wow....feels like we're witnessing the leading edge of a tsunami about to hit the shores of the NHL. A few weeks ago we all thought Cherry was the biggest story of the year...and now it might be an afterthought considering how much "hockey culture" nuclear waste is out there just waiting to be uncovered.

 

[mat_sens]

We had coaches firing pucks at us after messing up drills in practice when we were 14-15.

There's much worse that is going to come out

 

[dumbdick]

Wow....feels like we're witnessing the leading edge of a tsunami about to hit the shores of the NHL. A few weeks ago we all thought Cherry was the biggest story of the year...and now it might be an afterthought considering how much "hockey culture" nuclear waste is out there just waiting to be uncovered.

Gotcha culture. I agree that this stuff is bad, but i find it distasteful the way the internet seems to get off on this stuff. That feels like a distinctly new phenomena somehow.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Gotcha culture. I agree that this stuff is bad, but i find it distasteful the way the internet seems to get off on this stuff. That feels like a distinctly new phenomena somehow.

Not really.

Let's be honest here...we all kinda knew there was a lot of stuff under the surface, and no one really said anything. This has been a very "white" old school sport for a long time. Once in a while something like Graham Jame, or MLG or the banana incident will hit and make waves...but then disappears. But we all know the undercurrent has been there all along.

We need to get rid of it. I wouldn't want my kids growing up in a culture like that where this kind of behavior and abuse is considered ok.

 

[tardigrade81]

If the Habs end up drafting higher than the Sens I’m going to be very annoyed

May very well happen. Habs look awful.

 

[Senateurs]

If the Habs end up drafting higher than the Sens I’m going to be very annoyed

This is my worst nightmare.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Gotcha culture. I agree that this stuff is bad, but i find it distasteful the way the internet seems to get off on this stuff. That feels like a distinctly new phenomena somehow.

That's not what gotcha culture is. Gotcha culture involves someone really digging to find something on someone to more or less assert their moral superiority over them.

What's currently being talked about in hockey is a culture of abuse. There's nothing gotcha about this. This is about people in power who assumed, wrongly, that their positions would shield them from any accountability.

Also, it's really gross to say that you find people's response to this "distasteful". What a weird position to take.

 

[Boud]

Boston: 24 SOG , 17 scoring chances
Montreal: 37 SOG , 4 scoring chances

Let's talk about Corsi

 

[Very Stable Genius]

If he keeps up this pace, Pastrnak has a chance at 50 in 50.

 

[OD99]

I think the fact the Canes players brought it up to management is a significant step forward. Seems not long ago they would have just taken it and complained to each other.

Not good that Francis didnt do anything about it (old school thinking?) but I am not prepared to take this incident as an indictment on hockey culture as a whole.

Hazing has been tamed down exponentially and generally inclusiveness has been pushed more than ever.

It's an awful story but until I hear a LOT more about a lot more people I'm taking this as a bad guy who got away with stuff by being in a position of power...just like what goes on in all industries.

 

[maclean]

Re: hockey culture, it's really sports culture in general. It really is a bastion of toxic macho bullshit. Now, to be fair, it's kind of innate. You have a bunch of lazy kids who become a bunch of lazy rebellious young men who become a bunch of lazy adults and someone's got to kick them in the ass to get their dang acts together. Some might even say it builds character for kids to have to go through having some strange man scream at them and demean them and at the end of the day the other players doing the same. Personally though I got the f*** out of sports when it was clear that was the road it was going down. My son quit playing soccer a year ago and though I wished at the time he'd stuck with it (mostly because it was only halfway through the season), maybe he really did time it right, as some of the other boys were honestly little shits. These people also learn that that's the normal way to approach life and that means not the buckling down and doing your best part but the being a violent egomaniac part, and they can end up perpetuating this in their families and wherever else they feel in a position of power. If that can change, I'm all for it. Some may call it being a snowflake, but I see it as not putting up with other people's bullshit.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

May very well happen. Habs look awful.

Habs are getting the media blitz ready with Laf in a Canadiens jersey as a little child and him putting in the Habs jersey in the draft stage

 

[Peptic Balcers]

Boston: 24 SOG , 17 scoring chances
Montreal: 37 SOG , 4 scoring chances

Let's talk about Corsi

sounds good, next do we wanna talk about sample size?

 

[JD1]

Boston: 24 SOG , 17 scoring chances
Montreal: 37 SOG , 4 scoring chances

Let's talk about Corsi

Natural Stat Trick has the scoring chances and high danger corsi favouring Montreal

 

[Burrowsaurus]

let the clean sweep of these old hockey people begin... the whole league is nothing but a bunch of frat buddies who all got eachother jobs. the only credential needed is "oh we went through a hazing together back in 82? or oh yeah me and your dad once hurled slurs together at some POC." this is why I don't take the "BUT THEYRE PROS THEIR OPINION ON THIS IS GOOOLD" no theyre not. they're losers and theyre sycophants.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I think the fact the Canes players brought it up to management is a significant step forward. Seems not long ago they would have just taken it and complained to each other.

Not good that Francis didnt do anything about it (old school thinking?) but I am not prepared to take this incident as an indictment on hockey culture as a whole.

Hazing has been tamed down exponentially and generally inclusiveness has been pushed more than ever.

It's an awful story but until I hear a LOT more about a lot more people I'm taking this as a bad guy who got away with stuff by being in a position of power...just like what goes on in all industries.

a)or it brings more scrutiny on him especially if Peters talks.

b) I really doubt this. there was a Russian player just last year that spoke to a Russian paper and explained what the hazing was....... there was no taming down.. I mean maybe more inclusive hazing??? maybe

 

[BloodRedArmy]

Kyle Turris: What is happening down there. It's really sad/ fascinating. Listen to his wife's podcast from a year ago, she speaks so glowingly about the org. Now fans are writing open letters criticizing the org for character assassination? Honestly, would love to know what happened. I know I know, his play, yaddayadda... no way there isn't more to the story.

 

[BondraTime]

let the clean sweep of these old hockey people begin... the whole league is nothing but a bunch of frat buddies who all got eachother jobs. the only credential needed is "oh we went through a hazing together back in 82? or oh yeah me and your dad once hurled slurs together at some POC." this is why I don't take the "BUT THEYRE PROS THEIR OPINION ON THIS IS GOOOLD" no theyre not. they're losers and theyre sycophants.

Believe it or not, most "old hockey people" are not racist, pieces of shit. Some certainly are, as we are seeing, most are not. This reads incredibly ignorant.

They get jobs because they have been involved playing, coaching, and scouting hockey for their whole life. Those involved at higher level of a sport for a long time would have better knowledge, wouldn't you think?

Their will be a new wave of guys entering the league, almost all of them will have been involved in hockey at the junior and pro level as players and coaches, as they should. They know and understand the game much, much better than those that haven't. It's the exact same thing. Some of these guys will be pieces of shit, most won't. Those who are pieces of shit should be weeded out, those who aren't (the vast, vast majority) are where they belong.