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[aufheben]

I'd be perfectly happy with him missing out on the Calder if he goes full beast in the playoffs.

Kreider for Conn Smythe 2014.

Glad the Avs won, didn't want to play an angry Colorado team tomorrow night.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I have a good feeling the loser point is going to removed. It has become a joke. Not only the Devils but so many teams are getting this extra point.

What a joke.

This league absolutely needs to go to a three point system per game. Three for a regulation win. Two for an overtime or shootout win, one for an overtime or shootout loss. Expand OT to be 4 v 4 for five minutes, with adding another 3 v 3 five minute period after that if still tied. Then go to shootout if still tied.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

This league absolutely needs to go to a three point system per game. Three for a regulation win. Two for an overtime or shootout win, one for an overtime or shootout loss. Expand OT to be 4 v 4 for five minutes, with adding another 3 v 3 five minute period after that if still tied. Then go to shootout if still tied.

I don't think that an overtime and shootout win should give you the same amount of points.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

This league absolutely needs to go to a three point system per game. Three for a regulation win. Two for an overtime or shootout win, one for an overtime or shootout loss. Expand OT to be 4 v 4 for five minutes, with adding another 3 v 3 five minute period after that if still tied. Then go to shootout if still tied.

Debbies Will still find a way around it

 

[Synergy27]

I hate seeing the Devils managing to get to OT so often as much as the next guy, but they're pretty bad once they get there so it's not really helping them out as much as you think. Check out this website if you haven't seen it:

http://www.hockeystandings.info/

The only system that really separates the Rangers from the Devils is the 3-point system. Things are practically identical under the '83-99 system, which happens to be the one I prefer.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

****ing Ducks. Way to not show up at home against the Jackets.

 

[DaBadGuy7]

This league absolutely needs to go to a three point system per game. Three for a regulation win. Two for an overtime or shootout win, one for an overtime or shootout loss. Expand OT to be 4 v 4 for five minutes, with adding another 3 v 3 five minute period after that if still tied. Then go to shootout if still tied.

I rather go with 2 points for regulation/overtime win, 1 point for shootout win and no points for any type of loss. Takes shootout impact on the standings and nobody gets any points for losing

 

[LittleKev6D9]

I rather go with 2 points for regulation/overtime win, 1 point for shootout win and no points for any type of loss. Takes shootout impact on the standings and nobody gets any points for losing

That's exactly what I was thinking. Stop rewarding teams for losing. I'd change the OT to 10 minutes. 3 v 3 sounds exciting, but at the same time I feel like the gimmick would wear off really quick. 3 v 3 isn't hockey. At least 4 v 4 is still hockey. If it's still tied, go to a shootout.

 

[DaBadGuy7]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Stop rewarding teams for losing. I'd change the OT to 10 minutes. 3 v 3 sounds exciting, but at the same time I feel like the gimmick would wear off really quick. 3 v 3 isn't hockey. At least 4 v 4 is still hockey. If it's still tied, go to a shootout.

Yea, you can even make those 2 5 minute 4 v 4 OT periods then a shootout, Unfortunately, the shootout makes going to a win percentage system hard to go since it's not really a game at that point. I believe scraping the point system for win percentage would be the best option otherwise

 

[jniklast]

The point isn't for losing it's for tieing. Everybody hates the "loser" point, but hardly anybody has a problem with a team getting the same amount of points for shootout win as a regular win? A hockey game is 60 minutes, if you can't beat your opponent during that time, the reward should be reduced.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

****ing Ducks. Way to not show up at home against the Jackets.

Same with the Sharks at home against the Flyers. We got disemboweled by those teams...

 

[yrrebbor]

Then just bring back the tie like it used to be. 10 minute overtime, no shootout.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Same with the Sharks at home against the Flyers. We got disemboweled by those teams...

To be fair, I'm sure so would have the Jackets and Flyers earlier in the season. Surprised about the Flyers more. The Ducks have been playing like **** and the Jackets are a really good team. I just don't respect the Flyers that much. Can't believe they beat SJ.

 

[Loff]

Vancouver's recent collapse makes me kinda giddy. Remember those smug fans coming over here earlier in the season being all high and mighty...

Boston better hand them a 5th straight loss tonight.

 

[DaBadGuy7]

The point isn't for losing it's for tieing. Everybody hates the "loser" point, but hardly anybody has a problem with a team getting the same amount of points for shootout win as a regular win? A hockey game is 60 minutes, if you can't beat your opponent during that time, the reward should be reduced.

No, it is, winning and losing should have the same consequence no matter the situation period

 

[nikonsniper*]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Stop rewarding teams for losing. I'd change the OT to 10 minutes. 3 v 3 sounds exciting, but at the same time I feel like the gimmick would wear off really quick. 3 v 3 isn't hockey. At least 4 v 4 is still hockey. If it's still tied, go to a shootout.

The NHL likes this new points system because it (artificially) keeps fans the hopes alive for fans of teams like the Islanders.


You know, a lot of the talk over recent years about how much the "New NHL" has more parity is simply smoke-and-mirrors thanks to the point system they installed.

Had they made all the other changes, and left the points system the same, you wouldn't get nearly as many "hey, look at how much parity there is now! The changes saved the NHL!" comments.

 

[aufheben]

Vancouver's recent collapse makes me kinda giddy. Remember those smug fans coming over here earlier in the season being all high and mighty...

Boston better hand them a 5th straight loss tonight.

Yep.

 

[Killem Dafoe]

Vancouver's recent collapse makes me kinda giddy. Remember those smug fans coming over here earlier in the season being all high and mighty...

Boston better hand them a 5th straight loss tonight.

"Lack played phenomenal last night. Too bad the players in front of him couldn't score."

We know those feels though.

 

[jniklast]

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No, it is, winning and losing should have the same consequence no matter the situation period

Well, then why even play regular hockey? If it doesn't matter what happens for 60+ minutes playing the game of hockey, then we can just have shootouts all the time. It's still winning and losing, right?

 

[Wolfy*]

haha...Torts telling the media what a stupid **** he is.


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And here a typical Torts defeat presser...

I feel a little sorry for the guy, I'm sure he's a good man, just needs to control his emotions a little.

Btw, they call him the Terminator over there, I wonder why


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[Hire Sather]

I hate seeing the Devils managing to get to OT so often as much as the next guy, but they're pretty bad once they get there so it's not really helping them out as much as you think. Check out this website if you haven't seen it:

http://www.hockeystandings.info/

The only system that really separates the Rangers from the Devils is the 3-point system. Things are practically identical under the '83-99 system, which happens to be the one I prefer.

Not that you are personally aruging it hard, but I don't think the "Standings would be this way under X system" works.

If the point system were any different, all the games would be played out differently than they were.

 

[Bluenote13]

Ondrej Palat named rookie of the Month for January, 16 points in 15 games. 208th overall in '11, last round pick after being passed over first two drafts he was eligible.

Remember next time someone smart says 7th rounders are not worth much.

 

[jniklast]

Ondrej Palat named rookie of the Month for January, 16 points in 15 games. 208th overall in '11, last round pick after being passed over first two drafts he was eligible.

Remember next time someone smart says 7th rounders are not worth much.

The fact that he was passed over twice and then was taken in the 7th doesn't exactly make 7th rounders more valuable. Each team had about 20 picks which could've been used on him but they didn't. If anybody had thought he could make it, a missing 7th round pick wouldn't be a problem.

 

[DaBadGuy7]

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Well, then why even play regular hockey? If it doesn't matter what happens for 60+ minutes playing the game of hockey, then we can just have shootouts all the time. It's still winning and losing, right?

You are not getting my point, my point is that why award a point for losing. Winning a game should mean a lot , it shouldn't be devalued by getting a point in OT/SO. I agree on the shootout, it should only be a point for winning that. No other sport rewards teams just getting to extra quarter or inning

 

[Bluenote13]

The fact that he was passed over twice and then was taken in the 7th doesn't exactly make 7th rounders more valuable. Each team had about 20 picks which could've been used on him but they didn't. If anybody had thought he could make it, a missing 7th round pick wouldn't be a problem.

Yeah Tampa and Detroit are the only teams who have had 2011 7th rounders play for them. And those two teams have consistently shown they are very good at drafting after the 1st round.

But the point remains, you have a much better chance at the Palat's of the world when you actually have a 7th rounder.