Around the NHL Thread - Found the Missing #16

[Unlimited Chequing]

The first thing I thought when i saw that was, of all the pictures they could have selected, why would they pick one with Vegas players in it?

 

[DCDM]

I legitimately pounded my fist on my desk when I saw that.

I am embarrassed, but also relieved.

 

[Rubi]

Looks like Koskinen is starting tonight against St Louis so I guess we see Smith again tomorrow night.

 

[Mobiandi]

Vegas is the most annoyingly lucky team in the league. Every time I watch them, they pull a goal out of thin air

 

[Boomstick]

Hmmm I see a former Flame who shall not be named is a healthy scratch tonight. I'm not surprised. Dude sucks.

 

[Rubi]

Watching the Oilers vs Blues game. I think Katz must sign Remenda's paycheck.

 

[Rubi]

Hmmm I see a former Flame who shall not be named is a healthy scratch tonight. I'm not surprised. Dude sucks.

Troy Brouwer?

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

This isn't the first time. I forgot who SJS traded another unprotected 1st a few seasons back and they were doing bad around the ASG. They made it to the playoffs though so it was a moot point.

I think it was the season before the Hamonic trade?

It was the season they made the Finals. I don't know exactly when, but at one point Sharks 1st rounder looked like it was going to be top 10. It was the first rounder that they traded to the Bruins for Martin Jones, which back then already seemed bad, but now ouch.

 

[Mobiandi]

St. Louis takes fat Ls to Edmonton and Vancouver but make sure to beat us. Nice

 

[Boomstick]

Troy Brouwer?

lol no. different team, same game. I refuse to name this doofus.

 

[Figgy44]

It was the season they made the Finals. I don't know exactly when, but at one point Sharks 1st rounder looked like it was going to be top 10. It was the first rounder that they traded to the Bruins for Martin Jones, which back then already seemed bad, but now ouch.

Yes, that's the situation. I think it was similar to the Blues situation without the cup win.

Vegas is the most annoyingly lucky team in the league. Every time I watch them, they pull a goal out of thin air

Seems on par for a gambling city.

 

[Sparky93]

St. Louis takes fat Ls to Edmonton and Vancouver but make sure to beat us. Nice

They didn't beat us, Talbot did. He had a horrendous game and we would have easily won, had he been able to stop a beach ball.

 

[Oil Dood]

Hmmm I see a former Flame who shall not be named is a healthy scratch tonight. I'm not surprised. Dude sucks.

Yeah, he is day to day with a foot injury.

 

[Mobiandi]

God I wish Treliving picked Travis Green all those years ago

 

[crackdown44]

God I wish Treliving picked Travis Green all those years ago

I liked Green as a candidate as well, but they’re getting outplayed in like 80% of their games on this hot streak

Goaltending is bailing them out big time

 

[geebster]

I liked Green as a candidate as well, but they’re getting outplayed in like 80% of their games on this hot streak

Goaltending is bailing them out big time

They are 15-3-0 in their last 18 games. Goaltending cant be all of that.

 

[crackdown44]

They are 15-3-0 in their last 18 games. Goaltending cant be all of that.

Good thing I didn’t put some sort of qualifier in front of what I said saying that it hasn’t been every single game

 

[Mobiandi]

Man the Preds suck

 

[Sparky93]

Man the Preds suck

One more regulation lose than us.......

 

[Corpus X]

I'm watching the Oilers game and I have a sudden surge of diarrhea caressing my prostate...

 

[Mobiandi]

Fair value but could really handcuff the team in two years

 

[Ace Rimmer]

That's the worst possible contract they could have given Nurse. Money's fine, but term is either 6 years too short, or one year too long.

Nurse gets to drive the next negotiations, and despite the "oh he's a team guy he'll take a team friendly contract" trope, can you imagine what a 27 year old 50 point defenseman will command on the open market? Bye.

 

[Janks]

That's the worst possible contract they could have given Nurse. Money's fine, but term is either 6 years too short, or one year too long.

Nurse gets to drive the next negotiations, and despite the "oh he's a team guy he'll take a team friendly contract" trope, can you imagine what a 27 year old 50 point defenseman will command on the open market? Bye.

Maybe they can just pay him his $8.5M and be done with the negotiations early on next season when the negotiation window opens again?

He's totally worth it.

 

[InfinityIggy]

That's the worst possible contract they could have given Nurse. Money's fine, but term is either 6 years too short, or one year too long.

Nurse gets to drive the next negotiations, and despite the "oh he's a team guy he'll take a team friendly contract" trope, can you imagine what a 27 year old 50 point defenseman will command on the open market? Bye.

You aren't wrong in terms of the situation here.

However, you look at the contracts the Oilers have coming off the books in 2 years and they are primed to give Nurse his 'big contract'. You can see why they went this route despite the risk it involved.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Maybe they can just pay him his $8.5M and be done with the negotiations early on next season when the negotiation window opens again?

He's totally worth it.

There is another aspect of this that's missing though - taxes in Canada will cost a player ~10-15% of his contract vs. playing in the USA.

Plus, it's Edmonton - I can think of 20 reasons to get out of there, even for less money.

That extension will need to take a lot of the uncertainty away, that means a high AAV and high bonus structure contract. Think $12 million/year.

However, you look at the contracts the Oilers have coming off the books in 2 years and they are primed to give Nurse his 'big contract'. You can see why they went this route despite the risk it involved.

Well they're coming off the books but unless they're walking away from Nuge or Larsson, they're not going away completely. Gagner and the buried contracts alone would be enough for say a 5 year extension at a higher AAV - those are gone after this season.