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Martinez with some Sabres play in front of his own net. Gave it away. Got in front of the net in time to redirect it in.
 
Tkachuk may have done Eichel a favor hitting him like that. I don't think he's been rocked like that since his surgery.
 
Ekblad looked awful on that 5th one. Nice play by Eich, but there’s no excuse for not getting a stick in the passing lane. He looks like a guy going through the motions, didn’t engage or make a decision at all there.

What a feed by Wild Bill. Panthers can’t keep up.
 
Chainshot said:
So arguing for the sake of arguing. 'kay. Like I posted, neither method is just good or bad.

I don't think anyone is saying there is no inherent risk in signing any player to a long-term deal, just that justification for why not ought to at least have some level of consistency. Doak's post does point to what might be underlying issues of giving term to mid-line guys in Wennberg or White.

If the discussion is about Hodgson, his back was deemed fine and healed when he signed his extension. That was the injury that he had prior to coming to Buffalo, his mitochondrial thing developed after. Illness/injury will always be an inherent risk. It's picking who to take that risk on that seems more of the crux of the biscuit.
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I’m not even part of this argument. I’m just saying you can’t pick and chose which contracts count and which don’t.
 
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Looks like Eichel could win the cup and lead the playoffs in scoring. Poor McDavid, maybe he should ask for a trade too.
 
Florida should have gotten a PP after the Eichel hit. Vegas retaliates on a clean hit and the refs ignore that part.
 


It was a clean hit and glad Jack is ok. I was legit worried about his neck but to compare Eichel to Paul Kariya is a stretch...

I do wonder if there is somethin between the Thachuk's and Eichel... Even Brady would go after him quite a bit whenever the Sabres played Ottawa
 
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With Eichel soon to be a cup winner and a probable Conn Smythe winner, Just like with RoR before him....it's never been the players on the roster that was the issue...Nor was it the 4 GMs or 6 coaches we've burned through...

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TehDoak said:
With Eichel soon to be a cup winner and a probable Conn Smythe winner, Just like with RoR before him....it's never been the players on the roster that was the issue...Nor was it the 4 GMs or 6 coaches we've burned through...

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I think I can speak for most when I say that we already knew that the Pegula's and there lack of knowledge to run a franchise screwed the Sabre's and most of us just didn't like Eichels attitude... Both things can coexist.
 
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TehDoak said:
With Eichel soon to be a cup winner and a probable Conn Smythe winner, Just like with RoR before him....it's never been the players on the roster that was the issue...Nor was it the 4 GMs or 6 coaches we've burned through...

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It is 2-0 lol. Eichel was fine here until he didn't want to be here anymore. All those players coexisted and couldn't do shit which would fall on the coaching. Putting this on the Pegula's is just plain lazy.
 
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It was a clean hit. Tkachuk could have lit him up even worse but you can see he tucks his elbow in before hitting him.

Yes, I want fighting out of the game, but a relatively clean, hard, hit like that..... the league really needs to start handing out instigators like they're candy. Fighting just because your player got hit. So stupid.
 
TehDoak said:
With Eichel soon to be a cup winner and a probable Conn Smythe winner, Just like with RoR before him....it's never been the players on the roster that was the issue...Nor was it the 4 GMs or 6 coaches we've burned through...

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So those players that weren’t the problem, and those GMs that weren’t the problem, and the coaches that weren’t the problem, it was the guy who hired and paid for all those pieces that was the problem? Under your logic terry was a master of his craft and Buffalo just got unlucky they didn’t win, because terry didn’t hire anyone that was the problem

I think if we change terry to thedoak the meme works better
 
I can’t help but think that the Eichel we’re seeing now in the playoffs just wouldn’t have existed in Buffalo. Bruce Cassidy has done an excellent job transforming his two-way game, something that wasn’t worked on enough in Buffalo.

Besides that, even if Buffalo did have a “tougher” coach like Cassidy, Eichel had so much power/leverage during his tenure here, he could’ve forced the coach out. Not saying he would’ve, but it certainly did seem like we treated Eichel with kid gloves for the majority of his time here. Say what you will about tanking, but there’s no doubt that bottoming out for two years just to get him (and Reinhart) gave him incredible leverage.

I’m definitely feeling a mix of anger and jealousy towards Vegas/Eichel right now, but the trade may have been the best thing for all parties involved. It definitely isn’t a good look for Buffalo seeing RoR and (likely) Eichel go on to win cups shortly after we trade them though - I’m sure the opposing fanbases would make that trade again 100/100 times knowing it results in a cup for them.
 
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I can’t help but think that the Eichel we’re seeing now in the playoffs just wouldn’t have existed in Buffalo. Bruce Cassidy has done an excellent job transforming his two-way game, something that wasn’t worked on enough in Buffalo.

Besides that, even if Buffalo did have a “tougher” coach like Cassidy, Eichel had so much power/leverage during his tenure here, he could’ve forced the coach out. Not saying he would’ve, but it certainly did seem like we treated Eichel with kid gloves for the majority of his time here. Say what you will about tanking, but there’s no doubt that bottoming out for two years just to get him (and Reinhart) gave him incredible leverage.

I’m definitely feeling a mix of anger and jealousy towards Vegas/Eichel right now, but the trade may have been the best thing for all parties involved. It definitely isn’t a good look for Buffalo seeing RoR and (likely) Eichel go on to win cups shortly after we trade them though - I’m sure the opposing fanbases would make that trade again 100/100 times knowing it results in a cup for them.
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I don’t think he’s much different. He’s just surrounded by a much better and more experienced supporting cast. His individual burden to the team’s success is greatly reduced.
 
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I don’t think he’s much different. He’s just surrounded by a much better and more experienced supporting cast. His individual burden to the team’s success is greatly reduced.
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His defensive play is much, much improved. Even Wayne Gretzky was praising him between periods.
 
RefsIdeas said:
I can’t help but think that the Eichel we’re seeing now in the playoffs just wouldn’t have existed in Buffalo. Bruce Cassidy has done an excellent job transforming his two-way game, something that wasn’t worked on enough in Buffalo.

Besides that, even if Buffalo did have a “tougher” coach like Cassidy, Eichel had so much power/leverage during his tenure here, he could’ve forced the coach out. Not saying he would’ve, but it certainly did seem like we treated Eichel with kid gloves for the majority of his time here. Say what you will about tanking, but there’s no doubt that bottoming out for two years just to get him (and Reinhart) gave him incredible leverage.

I’m definitely feeling a mix of anger and jealousy towards Vegas/Eichel right now, but the trade may have been the best thing for all parties involved. It definitely isn’t a good look for Buffalo seeing RoR and (likely) Eichel go on to win cups shortly after we trade them though - I’m sure the opposing fanbases would make that trade again 100/100 times knowing it results in a cup for them.
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Eichel was a 2 way beast the year before he was hurt.
 
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It is 2-0 lol. Eichel was fine here until he didn't want to be here anymore. All those players coexisted and couldn't do shit which would fall on the coaching. Putting this on the Pegula's is just plain lazy.
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Push Dr Tracksuit said:
So those players that weren’t the problem, and those GMs that weren’t the problem, and the coaches that weren’t the problem, it was the guy who hired and paid for all those pieces that was the problem? Under your logic terry was a master of his craft and Buffalo just got unlucky they didn’t win, because terry didn’t hire anyone that was the problem

I think if we change terry to thedoak the meme works better
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That's the whole point. The Pegula's were the ones who refused to hire an experienced GM/Team President. It was the Pegula's who went with a string of first time GMs. It was the Pegula's who hired the coaches. They've been the only constant on this shit streak, and players have left here to great success after being absolutely ridiculed by local media/fans for the sin of 'wanting to win'.
 
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