Around the NHL - (Playoffs Edition)

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Oilers deserve to lose for scratching perry.

Losers

 

[HanSolo]

Done, I’m saying a 5K fine, because, reasons.

Edit - to be clear we are betting a beverage, not an entire franchise

Not even that.

 

[2faded]

Oilers deserve to lose for scratching perry.

Losers

Yea I wanted to Perry to win, especially after three straight finals losses. But, if they're not even going to play him then f*** em.

 

[Lord Flashheart]

McDavid is the best player in the world, possibly the best player ever. Draisaitl is one of the top 10 (maybe top 5) players in the world right now, and has been for a long time. They've done plenty to earn it, your two-game sample size aside. McDavid and Draisaitl are the top two scorers in the playoffs.

It's hard to imagine a world where Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen didn't win a single championship together, but that's essentially what we've got with the Oilers right now. I don't want the Oilers to be a dynasty (mostly because I'm hoping the Ducks can get back in there), but I'd like to see them get one.

One deserves it when performing when it's necessary. This is how you "deserve it", not by regular season scoring numbers.

Since you mentioned Jordan, now there's a sportsman who "deserved it" by taking it, who performed in the finals, who could barely be stopped by anyone or any team.

It's absolutely valid thing to say they need to earn it, and one earns it by being the best when it matters the most. That's what separates grestest of them all from really good players.

 

[70sSanO]

McDavid is the most skilled player in the league, his speed may push him to most skilled ever.

While there is no “I” in team there is one in McDavid. Other than drawing defenses to him, I’m not sure how he makes his teammates better.

John

 

[ohcomeonref]

McDavid is the most skilled player in the league, his speed may push him to most skilled ever.

While there is no “I” in team there is one in McDavid. Other than drawing defenses to him, I’m not sure how he makes his teammates better.

John

Dude just got 100 assists, doesn't that qualify as making teammates better?

 

[70sSanO]

Dude just got 100 assists, doesn't that qualify as making teammates better?

No.

John

 

[Boo Boo]

McDavid is the most skilled player in the league, his speed may push him to most skilled ever.

While there is no “I” in team there is one in McDavid. Other than drawing defenses to him, I’m not sure how he makes his teammates better.

John

He made Zach Hyman a ppg player and 50 goal scorer

 

[70sSanO]

McDavid ain't Crosby. And he never will be.

John

 

[All Mighty]

He made Zach Hyman a ppg player and 50 goal scorer

And Pat Maroon scored 27 goals next to him (his career high outside of that year is 17). Saying he doesn’t make his teammates better is one of the takes of all time.

 

[Terry Yake]

McDavid ain't Crosby. And he never will be.

John

yeah, he's better

 

[JAHV]

One deserves it when performing when it's necessary. This is how you "deserve it", not by regular season scoring numbers.

Since you mentioned Jordan, now there's a sportsman who "deserved it" by taking it, who performed in the finals, who could barely be stopped by anyone or any team.

It's absolutely valid thing to say they need to earn it, and one earns it by being the best when it matters the most. That's what separates grestest of them all from really good players.

Yes, small sample size luck and performance of the supporting cast is what separates them.

No.

John

Lol. Pray tell what, then, could McDavid possibly do to make his teammates better? McDavid is already better than Crosby.

 

[Ducks DVM]

The true tragedy is that nobody won free coffee.

 

[Ducks DVM]

If Drai gets nothing, do you both lose?

Yes, but we both get to laugh at @HanSolo for not actually formally joking the bet he would have won.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

The true tragedy is that nobody won free coffee.

You're lucky pal, I was going for a Venti Cappuccino not a plain old drip.

 

[duckaroosky]

The true tragedy is that nobody won free coffee.

Just pull a Vatanen and steal it from the Sharks

 

[Lord Flashheart]

Yes, small sample size luck and performance of the supporting cast is what separates them.

You need to re-read my post, seems like you didn't get the meaning.

 

[JAHV]

You need to re-read my post, seems like you didn't get the meaning.

I got it. I just don't agree with it.

 

[70sSanO]

Well I guess I have to root for the Oilers to come back and tie the series and have it go 7 games. Still rooting for Florida.

PLD turns 26 on June 24, the same date as a projected Game 7. That bumps his buyout from 1/3 to 2/3.

There are some things that are just more important.

John

 

[Kalv]

Oilers should had just get elimi ated earlier so we get our higher pick instead of get as far as possible to still lose at the end

 

[FiveTacos]

Well I guess I have to root for the Oilers to come back and tie the series and have it go 7 games. Still rooting for Florida.

PLD turns 26 on June 24, the same date as a projected Game 7. That bumps his buyout from 1/3 to 2/3.

There are some things that are just more important.

John

How realistic is a buyout anyway? I mean, even at 1/3 it's an embarrassing admission of a serious mistake ... the kind that frankly can get a front office fired. It's one thing to buy out the last few years, another to buy out 7 seasons.

I think regardless they're gonna ride it out and hope he starts giving a crap. It's the only thing that could save them on this trade. Anything else is a career killer for the Kings brass, who else would hire them after that?

 

[70sSanO]

How realistic is a buyout anyway? I mean, even at 1/3 it's an embarrassing admission of a serious mistake ... the kind that frankly can get a front office fired. It's one thing to buy out the last few years, another to buy out 7 seasons.

I think regardless they're gonna ride it out and hope he starts giving a crap. It's the only thing that could save them on this trade. Anything else is a career killer for the Kings brass, who else would hire them after that?

It is a catch-22 for Kings mgmt.

If you don’t buy him out and he continues at this level for a couple more years the buyout is $22m plus $17m in salary, and cap constraints of 2 years at $8.5m + buyout cap.

If you buy him out now it costs $20m and a longer but lower cap hit.

Signing him is probably viewed as a mistake no matter how it goes since their window is nearly completely closed.

John

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Not Steve Kozari officiating multiple Stanley Cup Final games in 2024, this league might actually be cooked

 

[All Mighty]

Is the play-by-play guy sick or something? He has no energy.

 

[All Mighty]

Barkov is incredible.