Around the NHL - Part XXXVI

[Siddi]

Now we just need to stop vilifying the unvaccinated and try to get back to normalcy.

Nope. They should still be vaccinated unless there is a justified medical reason not to.

 

[Siddi]

Yes, because all the players/coaches/staff that have gotten covid with the jab and potentially boosters & still getting Covid is showing us that force mandates are working.

None of them are ending up in the ICU. That is the point of the vaccin. Lessens the impact.

 

[Siddi]

It's an open question how long this burn/crash/burn/crash loop can go on before people start to develop serious auto immune diseases and other problems (heart issues/myocarditis) in even greater numbers

Stop with this Joe Rogan nonsense. Its been debunked.

 

[motopanekeku]

Stop with this Joe Rogan nonsense. Its been debunked.

Lol none of it has been debunked just ridiculed in mainstream media outlets and YouTube. In fact, vax efficacy and safety is what's being debunked if you're actually paying attention. But you're not, you're apparently hardwired into the liberal groupthink (I speak as a moderate conservative, a barbarian). No problem with your zealotry but your rapid fire posts are clogging the thread. Your tone is typical and your points are irrelevant especially in a hockey forum.

 

[Siddi]

Lol none of it has been debunked just ridiculed in mainstream media outlets and YouTube. In fact, vax efficacy and safety is what's being debunked if you're actually paying attention. But you're not, you're apparently hardwired into the liberal groupthink (I speak as a moderate conservative, a barbarian). No problem with your zealotry but your rapid fire posts are clogging the thread. Your tone is typical and your points are irrelevant especially in a hockey forum.

Where do you get your facts good sir?

 

[The Last Red]

lol looks like Gorton done hired himself a puppet. kinda feels like when Michael Barnett was hired by the Yotes.

I doubt that. Gorton tried to hire Hughes in 2017 for a senior management position with the Rangers. He’s been after him for a while. Apparently Hughes is very smart.

 

[motopanekeku]

Where do you get your facts good sir?

Problem with facts is it's 2022. Hard to find real ones. If you present me with any piece of information and label it a fact, does it make it so? Maybe you have noticed the trend in journalism in recent years to only present facts that support a certain narrative. The whole picture is rarely presented or analyzed. Actual facts are scattered and obscured. It's our responsibility to put the pieces together ourselves, my friend. And also to follow our intuition as well as using our rational minds to filter information.

If you want to get into it on this here hockey forum I'll just say I have trust issues. I rarely trust people in authority especially government and big pharma lol. Lets just say I'm used to thinking for myself and questioning authority. I've read 1984 I know how this ends.

Ridicule me if you like, it's the easiest tactic to discredit an opponent. And it's easy to confuse ridicule with an actual debunking.

No more of this ok I don't want to get a mod infraction for this lol

 

[Anthony5967]

None of them are ending up in the ICU. That is the point of the vaccin. Lessens the impact.

That's funny, because a buddy of mine has had it multiple times since he's been vaccinated lol. Second time he said was bad. Siddi, here's the issue, there are people that have natural immunity. Why is that being ignored? If you had COVID before a scheduled vaccine, I do not blame people one bit for trusting their natural immunity. You basically telling a person THEY SHOULD BE UNLESS sounds very authoritarian of you. Regardless, isn't this an "around the NHL" thread? I believe they have a COVID thread in the main forums.

 

[Siddi]

Problem with facts is it's 2022. Hard to find real ones. If you present me with any piece of information and label it a fact, does it make it so? Maybe you have noticed the trend in journalism in recent years to only present facts that support a certain narrative. The whole picture is rarely presented or analyzed. Actual facts are scattered and obscured. It's our responsibility to put the pieces together ourselves, my friend. And also to follow our intuition as well as using our rational minds to filter information.

If you want to get into it on this here hockey forum I'll just say I have trust issues. I rarely trust people in authority especially government and big pharma lol. Lets just say I'm used to thinking for myself and questioning authority. I've read 1984 I know how this ends.

Ridicule me if you like, it's the easiest tactic to discredit an opponent. And it's easy to confuse ridicule with an actual debunking.

No more of this ok I don't want to get a mod infraction for this lol

Sure, not the place for this discussion.

That's funny, because a buddy of mine has had it multiple times since he's been vaccinated lol. Second time he said was bad. Siddi, here's the issue, there are people that have natural immunity. Why is that being ignored? If you had COVID before a scheduled vaccine, I do not blame people one bit for trusting their natural immunity. You basically telling a person THEY SHOULD BE UNLESS sounds very authoritarian of you. Regardless, isn't this an "around the NHL" thread? I believe they have a COVID thread in the main forums.

The problem is that every lunatic draped in tinfoil is claiming natural immunity (not suggesting that your friend is one). But you are right not the place for this discussion.

Stay safe!

 

[Rangerfans]

Stop with this Joe Rogan nonsense. Its been debunked.

Saying it’s been debunked, doesn’t make it so.

 

[motopanekeku]

Sure, not the place for this discussion.



The problem is that every lunatic draped in tinfoil is claiming natural immunity (not suggesting that your friend is one). But you are right not the place for this discussion.

Stay safe!

Let me say one last thing. I'd like to comment on the nature and tone of your rebuttal comments, specifically the phrasing you use.

Let's start with "Where do you get your facts?". Other than what has already been discussed above the problem with that question, along with much of your commentary, is that it reeks of groupthink mentality. What I mean by that is the faith you have in your informational "facts" is predicated on the reality that many people are already vaccinated and agree with your perspective. The volume and pitch of information coming from the pro vaccination crowd is enough to make you believe that you are not being lied to, coerced and extorted. Normally we would say that ignorance is bliss but in these cases ignorance is vitriol. Watch your tone because it has become very typical to engage in ridicule of the unvaccinated. An easy pitfall to be victim to when EVERYONE IS DOING IT (groupthink).

That brings me to your "tin foil" comment. I say this with a sigh. Examine your viewpoints, my friend. Examine which ones are informed by a true thirst for truth and which ones are being influenced by the current plebian zietgeist of noise. I will not call you a sheep because I believe actual sheep to be an honorable species.

Long story short, you come off like a mindless soundboard of vapid neo-authoritarianism. Forgive my obvious frustration. I come to this corner of the internet to escape the noise not to stamp it out. Next step is ignore unless you have some worthwhile hockey commentary in the works.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

So how about them Oilers?

 

[NYRKing]

So how about them Oilers?

Hopefully their media continues to squeeze lemon into the wounds t push those poor stars to escape the little angry village.

 

[NYRKing]

Despite the great rosters of the Canes and Cats, not so afraid of Freddy and Bob between the pipes in the playoffs.

 

[Synergy27]

The very fact that this discussion is being had here, on a friggin website dedicated to hockey prospects, is indicative of the doom which awaits us. We’ve not only somehow managed to politicize a pandemic and the subsequent miracle treatments that modern science has dropped in our laps, we’ve also become so deeply entrenched in our opinions about what’s actually happening that we can’t escape the desire to signal our most important tribe (Politics Ahhhhhh!!!!!) even when we’re amongst a tribe (Rangers fans) we’ve chosen to support a hobby.

I can’t wait for the metaverse honestly. I’d rather choose my own adventure for real if everyone around me is doing it in the real world anyway.

 

[Siddi]

Let me say one last thing. I'd like to comment on the nature and tone of your rebuttal comments, specifically the phrasing you use.

Let's start with "Where do you get your facts?". Other than what has already been discussed above the problem with that question, along with much of your commentary, is that it reeks of groupthink mentality. What I mean by that is the faith you have in your informational "facts" is predicated on the reality that many people are already vaccinated and agree with your perspective. The volume and pitch of information coming from the pro vaccination crowd is enough to make you believe that you are not being lied to, coerced and extorted. Normally we would say that ignorance is bliss but in these cases ignorance is vitriol. Watch your tone because it has become very typical to engage in ridicule of the unvaccinated. An easy pitfall to be victim to when EVERYONE IS DOING IT (groupthink).

That brings me to your "tin foil" comment. I say this with a sigh. Examine your viewpoints, my friend. Examine which ones are informed by a true thirst for truth and which ones are being influenced by the current plebian zietgeist of noise. I will not call you a sheep because I believe actual sheep to be an honorable species.

Long story short, you come off like a mindless soundboard of vapid neo-authoritarianism. Forgive my obvious frustration. I come to this corner of the internet to escape the noise not to stamp it out. Next step is ignore unless you have some worthwhile hockey commentary in the works.

You didn't want the conversation to continue since we were OT and I respectfully obliged but you couldn't contain yourself. I wish you fair winds in your thirsty search for the "truth" and by all means, ignore away.

 

[duhmetreE]

So how about them Oilers?

They need one more topline center

 

[Ruggs225]

Is Laf cleared to play yet?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Let me say one last thing. I'd like to comment on the nature and tone of your rebuttal comments, specifically the phrasing you use.

Let's start with "Where do you get your facts?". Other than what has already been discussed above the problem with that question, along with much of your commentary, is that it reeks of groupthink mentality. What I mean by that is the faith you have in your informational "facts" is predicated on the reality that many people are already vaccinated and agree with your perspective. The volume and pitch of information coming from the pro vaccination crowd is enough to make you believe that you are not being lied to, coerced and extorted. Normally we would say that ignorance is bliss but in these cases ignorance is vitriol. Watch your tone because it has become very typical to engage in ridicule of the unvaccinated. An easy pitfall to be victim to when EVERYONE IS DOING IT (groupthink).

That brings me to your "tin foil" comment. I say this with a sigh. Examine your viewpoints, my friend. Examine which ones are informed by a true thirst for truth and which ones are being influenced by the current plebian zietgeist of noise. I will not call you a sheep because I believe actual sheep to be an honorable species.

Long story short, you come off like a mindless soundboard of vapid neo-authoritarianism. Forgive my obvious frustration. I come to this corner of the internet to escape the noise not to stamp it out. Next step is ignore unless you have some worthwhile hockey commentary in the works.

Seems like you have a thirst for a strong dose of shut the f*** up, not the truth.

Please, stop with this nonsense. You claim that you come to these parts of the internet to to escape the noise so adhere to that. Keep your bull shit where ever you picked it up. I'd tell you to better educate your self, but that shits going to fall on deaf ears so believe what you want, just keep it off of here.

 

[rangers1314]

I have no doubt Hughes is a smart dude, but this scenario sounds very similar to Gorton's pursuit of Quinn.

 

[Thirty One]

So how about them Oilers?

I would be pretty disappointed in Draisaitl's response if I was the Oilers. Matheson is a puke, but he should be able to stand in there without reacting like he did. As a great man once said, "If you can't beat the clown, how you gonna beat Shooter McGavin?" He's gonna have a lot tougher opponents than Matheson looking for a usable quote.

 

[MyLoveIsBlue]

 

[NYR94]

The Rangers have acquired Joe Pavelski.

 

[romba]

The problem is when facts you like are accepted without analyzation as 'that makes sense!', and facts you dislike are tossed easily 'I knew that was bull shit!'. Everyone should be somewhat skeptical but don't pick a side and stick with it no matter what. Be open to the idea that hey, you may be wrong, or the ppl you trust mistaken, because it happens. Crazy concept.

 

[romba]

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